Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[UKBengali]

wonder where these Yemenis get all their weapons from.

certainly isn't Egypt or Jordan or Saudi Arabia, the same countries that tried to destroy them.

Martyr Sinwar himself said that without Iran Hamas could not have been the military force it became.

Yes some people were disappointed with the level of Iranian involvement but without Iran the ME would be a total Zio-US neo-colonial region.

 

[Meengla]

So basically

The full military might of the west could not gain control of an open air prison.

Killing babies yes, control no.

If Israelis were not a cowardly military then they would have prevailed in Gaza. Absolutely, but they are cowards and it is not just me, it is also extremely reputable bloggers like Electronic Intifada's John Ulmer who calls Israelis as 'cowards'. In contrast, the Pakistani military went into the erstwhile FATA and the Swat/Malakand Division starting 2009 into a mountainous terrain with the resources even less than a tenth of the Israelis, but the Pakistani military prevailed at great cost in both regions. That tells you that Israelis, once the American support is removed, are doomed. So the change should start in America, starting with smart politics--not emotional ones. And it not hard to understand and make smart electoral choices in America: Learn from the Jews, the AARP, the African Americans and increasingly from the Latin American lobbies. The knowledge is all out there for the taking!!

 

[Falcon29]

wonder where these Yemenis get all their weapons from.

certainly isn't Egypt or Jordan or Saudi Arabia, the same countries that tried to destroy them.

They've had tons of weapons before Iran came into the picture,but that's besides the point.

Weapons are a tool. It's how you utilize those tools that matters. And what it takes for you to utilize them.

Some within the axis did not like the idea of opening a front, even a support front. Houthi's on other hand opened a support front and were firm with their stance that they felt there was a moral obligation to intervene in the Gaza situation until a ceasefire is reached. And they did until the last minute. So they are the state of the axis, I'd argue. And they definitely won people's hearts and respect because that's commenda
ble.

 

[Falcon29]

Martyr Sinwar himself said that without Iran Hamas could not have been the military force it became.

Yes some people were disappointed with the level of Iranian involvement but without Iran the ME would be a total Zio-US neo-colonial region.

I don't think people are that fixated on Iran. It's people from AoR fixated on Iran and wanting to assert themselves as heroes of the day.

Iran itself isn't behaving that way. It's the social media AoR accounts that can't help but damage the reputation of AoR.

The fact is, if the Israeli's resume the genocide on Gaza, Iran won't do anything about it. They'll be on their own and have a uncertain fate. Houthi's on the other hand will immediately resume strikes on Israel with what they can.

 

[UKBengali]

I don't think people are that fixated on Iran. It's people from AoR fixated on Iran and wanting to assert themselves as heroes of the day.

Iran itself isn't behaving that way. It's the social media AoR accounts that can't help but damage the reputation of AoR.

The fact is, if the Israeli's resume the genocide on Gaza, Iran won't do anything about it. They'll be on their own and have a uncertain fate. Houthi's on the other hand will immediately resume strikes on Israel with what they can.

Without Iran Houthis would have nothing to fire at the Zionist entity.

All resistance leads back to Iran in the end.

Personally I think they(and Hezbollah) were too meek but they made the choices they did based on what they thought was best. Whether it was in fact the right choices may be another matter.

 

[FuturePAF]

Now begins the hard task, that the media will try to make the world do, Forget.

But we must never forget

Never Forget Gaza, Never Forget the Palestinians.

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[Persian Gulf]

Martyr Sinwar himself said that without Iran Hamas could not have been the military force it became.

Yes some people were disappointed with the level of Iranian involvement but without Iran the ME would be a total Zio-US neo-colonial region.

Sinwar thanks Iran for providing weapons, Abu Obeida thanks Iran along with the Axis of Resistance for their support (all backed by Iran), and the usual suspects still trot out their predictable anti-Iran rhetoric.

They will never change, but others can see the truth.

 

[Persian Gulf]

They've had tons of weapons before Iran came into the picture,but that's besides the point.

They never had weapons that could reach Israel. They use exclusively Iranian made and supplies weapons to strike Israel. When entire Arab world came together to destroy Ansarallah only Iran stood with them. These are facts. Now Arabs praise Ansarallah...

Ansarallah made the decision to use those weapons, also a fact. You say Iran would prefer Ansarallah not to use them, but they didn't stop the supply of missiles even for one day, so that is dubious at best.

 

[Falcon29]

Without Iran Houthis would have nothing to fire at the Zionist entity.

Without Houthi's aiming them at Israel and making the decision at the strategic/political level to fire at Israel, they would have never been fired. It comes down to why/how you utilize the tools.

Iran helped them manufacture those missiles so they could fire back at UAE and Saudis Arabia.

Houthi's repurposed them to fire at Israel. You're giving little credit to Houthi's.

All resistance leads back to Iran in the end.

That's not true. Unless all resistance means you to is being allied with Iran.

 

[KingQamaR]

If Israelis were not a cowardly military then they would have prevailed in Gaza. Absolutely, but they are cowards and it is not just me, it is also extremely reputable bloggers like Electronic Intifada's John Ulmer who calls Israelis as 'cowards'. In contrast, the Pakistani military went into the erstwhile FATA and the Swat/Malakand Division starting 2009 into a mountainous terrain with the resources even less than a tenth of the Israelis, but the Pakistani military prevailed at great cost in both regions. That tells you that Israelis, once the American support is removed, are doomed. So the change should start in America, starting with smart politics--not emotional ones. And it not hard to understand and make smart electoral choices in America: Learn from the Jews, the AARP, the African Americans and increasingly from the Latin American lobbies. The knowledge is all out there for the taking!!

I agree with your assessment brother. The Israeli regime has failed on every front in this disproportionate and brutal conflict. Despite the overwhelming power of its military and the support of its allies. It has been unable to break the spirit of the mujahideen.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran helped them manufacture those missiles so they could fire back at UAE and Saudis Arabia.

These new missiles (Palestine-1 and Palestine-2 = Iranian Kheibar Shekan-1 and Kheibar Shekan-2) were never used against UAE or Saudi Arabia. Iran continued to supply missiles long after Ansarallah stopped firing missiles at Saudi Arabia.

Iran supplies the weapons, Yemenis make the decisions. Both play different roles and neither should be understated or overstated.

Iranian missile engineers (IRGC-ASF) are on the ground in Yemen helping assemble and launch these missiles at Israel. This has been true for many years. The US tried to assassinate the head of the IRGC in Yemen on the same day they assassinated Soleimani in Iraq, but thankfully that attempt failed.

 

[Falcon29]

They never had weapons that could reach Israel. They use exclusively Iranian made and supplies weapons to strike Israel.

Iran armed them to be able to strike targets in UAE and Saudi Arabia. Those same weapons can reach Israel but were not originally intended for Israel, like you suggest.

Nevertheless Houthi's aimed them at Israel. And took a decision at a strategic level to intervene with what I believe is their maximum capacity in relation to Israel, despite the risks, all the way till the end. It makes them stand out. Doesn't mean no one else tried something.

When entire Arab world came together to destroy Ansarallah only Iran stood with them. These are facts. Now Arabs praise Ansarallah...

Entire Arab world was definitely not against Ansarallah, and those same Arabs that were against them are still against them. Arabs aren't a monolith. You're talking about hundreds of millions of people. It's important to be accurate about where their nations and people stand.

Ansarallah made the decision to use those weapons, also a fact. You say Iran would prefer Ansarallah not to use them, but they didn't stop the supply of missiles even for one day, so that is dubious at best.

Iran made it possible for Houthi's to have long range strike capabilities. That is true. What's also true is Iran was not fond of this war and sought de-escalation (via allies). But it had to draw red lines, irregardless. Iran is not seen in a negative light following the events in Gaza. But it's not seen as having 'won the battle' for Gaza. And promoting victory narratives across social media.

For Palestinains there is uncertainty about whether Israel will honor the ceasefire and whether Gaza will actually rehabilitate. Promoting victory narratives is pinning responsibility back on Gaza to endure suffering alone. Which Gaza does not want.

 

[Marquis de Sade]

As a Palestinian from Gaza, I've been deeply disturbed and traumatized by this genocide. And the trauma goes beyond the Palestinian national cause and the emotional support to the Palestinian Resistance. What I say over the past 16 months was a attack on humanity of great scale that I didn't imagine would happen in my lifetime. The first three months of the war of on Gaza was especially distressing and took a big toll on us.

I will say everything has changed after this. We were subjected to a systematic attack on our people as a whole. And this drew in almost all Palestinian people. Our students at Universities were attacked, our children were murdered here in the States. Jewish hostility against Palestinians spread to professional institutions and ordinary life in America. Jewish doctors were spewing venom against Palestinians and this made Palestinians disassociate with them.

We hope the best for the people of Gaza and hope they find relief for a long time, starting tomorrow. But this struggle is greater than to be restricted to Gaza. And it will continue after the ceasefire in Gaza. This war declared on our national identity, by a big part of the Jewish community, will not go unanswered and we will make sure to ostracize them with all our energy for the rest of their lives. Because they started this vile attack and war on our entire national identity. And we will do everything to preserve it. They will grow to regret what they have done. Now the entire Palestinian community with all its professionals and activists will not rest until this Nazi terror state faces justice, God willing.

Not the jews as a whole. Jews are good people, the problem is the zionist society.

Many jews in this conflict took the sides of the Palestinians and stood up against Israel like Norman Finkelstein, John Olliver, Max Blumenthal, Yaakov Shapiro, Henry Makow etc

Without Iran Houthis would have nothing to fire at the Zionist entity.

All resistance leads back to Iran in the end.

Personally I think they(and Hezbollah) were too meek but they made the choices they did based on what they thought was best. Whether it was in fact the right choices may be another matter.

Iran opened their airspace for the US to attack Iraq and Afghanistan, this is well documented.

Iran accepted weapons from Israel in the war against Iraq.

Iran supported Assad in his slaughtering rage against Syrian muslims.

Iran let Haniyeh being killed in Tehran.

Iran gave Israel the location of Nasrallah, Deif and Sinwar.

Not everything is black or white.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iran armed them to be able to strike targets in UAE and Saudi Arabia. Those same weapons can reach Israel but were not originally intended for Israel, like you suggest.

I already explained since that war ended Iran supplied Ansarallah with new missiles solely intended for use against Israel (Palestine-1 and Palestine-2).

Nevertheless Houthi's aimed them at Israel. And took a decision at a strategic level to intervene with what I believe is their maximum capacity in relation to Israel, despite the risks, all the way till the end. It makes them stand out. Doesn't mean no one else tried something.

Aimed them at Israel with Iranian soldiers on the ground helping. Otherwise, I agree.

Entire Arab world was definitely not against Ansarallah, and those same Arabs that were against them are still against them. Arabs aren't a monolith. You're talking about hundreds of millions of people. It's important to be accurate about where their nations and people stand.

OK I will be more specific:

Iran made it possible for Houthi's to have long range strike capabilities. That is true. What's also true is Iran was not fond of this war and sought de-escalation (via allies). But it had to draw red lines, irregardless. Iran is not seen in a negative light following the events in Gaza. But it's not seen as having 'won the battle' for Gaza. And promoting victory narratives across social media.

Valid.

 

[UKBengali]

These new missiles (Palestine-1 and Palestine-2 = Iranian Kheibar Shekan-1 and Kheibar Shekan-2) were never used against UAE or Saudi Arabia. Iran continued to supply missiles long after Ansarallah stopped firing missiles at Saudi Arabia.

Iran supplies the weapons, Yemenis make the decisions. Both play different roles and neither should be understated or overstated.

Iranian missile engineers (IRGC-ASF) are on the ground in Yemen helping assemble and launch these missiles at Israel. This has been true for many years. The US tried to assassinate the head of the IRGC in Yemen on the same day they assassinated Soleimani in Iraq, but thankfully that attempt failed.

Some people are upset that Iran and Hezbollah did not go to all out war after October 7th. I cannot blame a Palestinian for feeling this way as their people have been subjected to a genocide since October 7th.

However as neither Iran or Hezbollah was ever informed beforehand, let alone 'approved" of October 7th, then no one can blame them for not getting involved earlier and more heavily.

The cowards and traitors of course have a vested interest in downplaying the efforts of the "Axis of Resistance" but history will judge them as getting involved to try to stop a genocide when they could have just sat it out.