Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Hamas doesn't have much choice. The last thing the Palestinian people want after finally returning to their homes and starting to rebuild is for the war to resume and for them to be internally displaced yet again (for the 5th or 6th time).

Hamas should speak to the mediators about Israel's breaches and extract whatever they can while promising to release the remaining prisoners as per the deal if Israel also abides by the terms.

Hammer home the message: Hamas wants to complete the deal, and has been fulfilling its obligations, but Israel is violating the deal.

Ultimately Hamas has little leverage as Israeli society is basically a fascistic racial supremacist society which views Palestinians as less than human.
 
There is no 'fighting', what this Jewish terrorist means is they'll go back to massacring 100-150 civilians a day on purpose to terrorize the world into removing Palestinians out of Gaza :

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Meengla said:
Yes, but I think even Iran has retrenched--started to retrench just before the Fall of Assad. The Free Palestine Enterprise which started in 1979 is rolled back for now at least. As I said in some days ago, Iran had been asked (probably in that large summit few months ago) by China and Russia to cut its losses in the Middle East and join the new Big Boys Club. Do you see guys see otherwise?? I don't. But I do think, in their hubris, Trump and Netanyahu might go too far where a regional rage will become insurmountable for the leaders.
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Realistically, Iran can never be a central figure in freeing Palestine by virtue of being 2000km away, as well as lacking the racial or religious affiliations with Palestinians / Sunni Arabs. Iran doesn't even share a border with Syria let alone Lebanon or Israel / Palestine.
 
Persian Gulf said:
Saudi Arabia has made strong diplomatic statements recently and to its credit has not normalised with Israel

it deserves credit for this, which is apparently beyond the capabilities of its neighbours UAE and Bahrain
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We should treat uae, bahrain, morroco as outcasts, even turkiye if they are not ready to really severe ties to zero. Enough is enough.

P.s. forgot to add egypt and jordan
 
Persian Gulf said:
If Turkey joins such a war in favour of the Palestinians, Iran will have no choice but to join. But we both know Turkey will never fight Israel.
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The greatest fear of early zionists was Turkiye. They wanted a buffer between Turkiye and zion for this specific reason. Herbert Samuel wanted Syria to be a buffer under French tutelage for this specific reason. Everything in Mideast is connected.
 
Meengla said:
Trump is a 'lame duck'?? He can even whoop Netanyahu if he wants to and not even the Israeli Lobby could do much about that... IF he would want to. But those $337 MILLION lifetime donations from Trump from the Adelsons should amount to something!
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His development deal is bigger by comparison and directly enriches him and his family. That involves a sheikhdom and its money poured into Jared "Gaza waterfront" Kushners...
Pay for play galore!
 
Persian Gulf said:
I think you are much too kind to Egypt, which has shown zero interest in reversing normalisation with Israel let alone going to war with Israel for the Palestinians.
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Egypt doesn't have normalisation but a peace treaty. You need to give them benefit of doubt. Their position isn't helping Palestinians win but isn't helping Israeli's achieve their vision of 'victory' either.

Israel wants a ethnic cleansing badly but is trying to see how far Trump pressure can go. And trying to offload responsibility unto Trump, so he and America can face legal consequences if such a thing happens. But Netanyahu doesn't actually have a actionable plan right now besides keep massacring Palestinians and increasing suffering until region says 'no more'.

And that 'no more' is either we'll remove them and take them out or we will begin pushing back against Israel.
 
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Hamas doesn't have much choice. The last thing the Palestinian people want after finally returning to their homes and starting to rebuild is for the war to resume and for them to be internally displaced yet again (for the 5th or 6th time).

Hamas should speak to the mediators about Israel's breaches and extract whatever they can while promising to release the remaining prisoners as per the deal if Israel also abides by the terms.

Hammer home the message: Hamas wants to complete the deal, and has been fulfilling its obligations, but Israel is violating the deal.

Ultimately Hamas has little leverage as Israeli society is basically a fascistic racial supremacist society which views Palestinians as less than human.
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Correct. This point was going to come after phase 2. Better to find out now. And secure a lasting ceasefire.

Pressure is now on Israel to comply with ceasefire or escalate it's terrorism against Gaza.
 
Persian Gulf said:
If Turkey joins such a war in favour of the Palestinians, Iran will have no choice but to join. But we both know Turkey will never fight Israel.
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If Egypt ends up in a war, of any kind of nature, not strictly conventional traditional one, I think everyone else should contribute. Idk how, they know what they can do.

What Palestinians need is for outside parties to degrade offensive attack capabilities of Israel.
 
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ said:
His development deal is bigger by comparison and directly enriches him and his family. That involves a sheikhdom and its money poured into Jared "Gaza waterfront" Kushners...
Pay for play galore!
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Yes, Jared's role is well known. But building peaceful 'The Riviera of the Middle East' in Gaza is not feasible for years to come because there are still enough Gazans to resist that.

Hard to say what's going to happen in Gaza. Both Netanyahu and Trump appear in a great rush to wrap up as much as possible before the American Mid Term elections in 2026 might--just might-- put some brakes on Trump. But I fear for the Gazans!! One can only hope that there is combined Muslim country diplomatic pressure to extract some concessions on Gaza and the West Bank. Maybe a rump/Bantustan Palestinian State in the West Bank and a demilitarized Gaza.

Israelis are extremely lucky that two old racist white boys like Biden and Trump were/are the Presidents in this crucial time in their history. Extremely lucky. I doubt even JD Vance would be half has pro Israel and cruel as Biden/Trump are.
 
Are Muslims of Gaza the only Muslims remaining on the earth ?
 
Falcon29 said:
If Egypt ends up in a war, of any kind of nature, not strictly conventional traditional one, I think everyone else should contribute. Idk how, they know what they can do.

What Palestinians need is for outside parties to degrade offensive attack capabilities of Israel.
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The Palestinains need to get more organised , every man woman and child should be doing something useful. They need to start digging up roads and building obstructions to make it difficult for tanks to roll in. Dig tunnels to Tel-Aviv, take the war to the Jews.
 
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