Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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PakAl said:
Brother they know everything, they are waiting for their messiah, for the messiah to come more nations need to destabilised, civil wars, genocides to take place. You see they have already done mass killings but still he is not coming, in their minds they need to do more. Israel needs to be the unchallenged power in the world, the power needs to be in Jerusalem not Washington, and all surrounding nations in distress, the temple built and then he will come. I am worried about Iran more than anyone, the zionist will plot to bring them down, they will not forget the missile attacks, Pakistan is another power, quiet but powerful military and this is not acceptable.
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Don't worry they (Israel/US) will have full support of Muslim world in destroying Iran.
 
Starlord said:
Don't worry they (Israel/US) will have full support of Muslim world in destroying Iran.
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Iran will fight till death as long as current revolutionary regime is in power. Israel the chosen people v Iran the army of mahdi. Both very strong ideologies. Will Russia and China quietly watch Iran going down knowing the free world getting closer to them. Pakistan generals will also be shaking. Russia China Pakistan should never allow Iran to fall, it should be the redline for WW3.
 
Starlord said:
I get your point, but if Jordan is too get attacked, the same US/NATO will be fully on board, if you think that IDF bombing Jordan will cause Arabs to react is nothing but false bravado we heard from Arab leaders over the last year.
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Normally Jordan goes running to Egypt for help. Syrian revolution will follow to Jordan and Lebanon, Egypt is definitely on the hitlist but it failed, their military stopped it.
 
PakAl said:
Iran will fight till death as long as current revolutionary regime is in power. Israel the chosen people v Iran the army of mahdi. Both very strong ideologies. Will Russia and China quietly watch Iran going down knowing the free world getting closer to them. Pakistan generals will also be shaking. Russia China Pakistan should never allow Iran to fall, it should be the redline for WW3.
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Iran haven't been fully smart with their proxies, I admire their support and actions towards Israel risking all out war with entire Western Civilization, but they need to stop with their proxies in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, cause this divide is not good for Muslims nor good for Palestinian cause, unfortunately Iran-KSA is locked in a sectarian war over supremacy, the ideas that has long history, with strong hate and resentment from both sides, for as long as the GCC and Gulf remain divided there is nothing can be done for Palestinian cause, why you think that west is successful ? they all come together despite different cultures, language and history of fighting but they still create NATO, they all know that if they remain united they will survive and if they backstab each other for petty reasons they will be picked up one by one, this is something that Arabs never learn from the Europe/NATO.
 
PakAl said:
Normally Jordan goes running to Egypt for help. Syrian revolution will follow to Jordan and Lebanon, Egypt is definitely on the hitlist but it failed, their military stopped it.
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Israel won't stop, you can give the entire land of Israel to them and Palestinian give up their right to have independent state, Israel won't give them equal rights first of all, second they will then find issues with Lebanon, then Egypt then Jordan, they are a colonial satellite outpost which has little natural resources and landmass, they have to expand if order to survive in long term.
 
hussain0216 said:
I agree, Egypt has the strongest military in the Arab world and it's vital Arab countries now get together and pool their MASSIVE resources to build up their militaries and make weapons THEMSELVES with the help of Muslim countries like Turkey Pakistan etc

It's not that Egypt isn't strong, it's that it's military is based on western weapons, often without the best bits

Like they will buy Rafaels from France but won't be given the meteor, or get the F16S without any BVRs

I was just checking their anti ship missiles, and they as usual have western anti ship missiles in limited numbers and limited ranges

When they could easily get anti ship missiles from Turkey, or China or even Pakistan or ask for help so Egypt can make themselves


No one is saying Egypt isn't strong, just has a baffling policies that leave it weaker
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Somebody could create a Egypt vs Israel thread and do a rundown of the weapons. It appears from a quick search that Egypt doesn't have Meteor missiles or BVR as US and France refused to sell them.

It does other short-to-medium range air-to-air missiles and supposedly longer range Russian ones.

There are fresh reports that Egypt is acquiring some J10-C with long range air-to-air missiles.

Egypt makes a lot of its own air force munitions (general purpose bombs and guided ones).

It also has a diversified AD system. Primarily intended to defend their airspace from Israel.

Egyptian military is I'm going to assume aware of their disadvantages against Israel in some areas and probably made workarounds for them to their best ability.
 
Starlord said:
Iran haven't been fully smart with their proxies, I admire their support and actions towards Israel risking all out war with entire Western Civilization, but they need to stop with their proxies in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, cause this divide is not good for Muslims nor good for Palestinian cause, unfortunately Iran-KSA is locked in a sectarian war over supremacy, the ideas that has long history, with strong hate and resentment from both sides, for as long as the GCC and Gulf remain divided there is nothing can be done for Palestinian cause, why you think that west is successful ? they all come together despite different cultures, language and history of fighting but they still create NATO, they all know that if they remain united they will survive and if they backstab each other for petty reasons they will be picked up one by one, this is something that Arabs never learn from the Europe/NATO.
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Its complicated situation, we can blame Iran but Saudi, Qatar and UAE spent 150B+ on exporting their ideologies all around the Muslim world aswell, i can mention the ideology but dont want to go off topic, this was started before Iranian revolution. In Syria Bashar Al Assad father came to power before 1979, so without Iran support but today all rebels are sponsored by rivals. The divide is also because GCC is in the Usa Israeli camp whilst Iran is in the Russian camp so even if proxies are finished, this rivalry will stay. Since 2000s Turkey also started to expand in to the Muslim world so that's another power. Iran Qatar SA Turkey and UAE competing. In Sudan it's between UAE and Egypt, one supporting government and other opposition. I agree only unity can help Palestine cause, can't see it happening anytime soon, we have genocide being committed in Gaza whilst certain Muslim nations promising on investing billions in to Usa. They all in on it.
 
J10C acquisition doesn't seem like reliable news right now.

That being said, people shouldn't draw conclusions on what a war would like between Egypt and Israel -- based off what's happening in Gaza.

Gaza is a small enclave with a defenseless population. Hamas are just some people with guns and homemade rockets. There is no military in Gaza.

It seems when it comes to Egypt, people coming to several conclusions:

1.) Egyptian air force stands no chance and would get destroyed on day one

2.) Egypt's AD missile systems will suddenly stop working or get immediately destroyed by US/Israel magic powers

3.) Egypt's tanks won't work because some or a large number of them are American

4.) Egypt's troops won't be able to deploy in Sinai

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I don't buy any of those points as they lack supporting evidence for them.
 
We would need to make a Egypt vs Israel thread to go over this.

Egypt's military is pretty well diversified. Their AD system is, they have German/French/Russian radars from what I've seen.

I'm not aware of the extent of their deployment in Sinai. Due to the peace treaty that information is hard to get. But I'm positive they have emergency contingency plans to quickly deploy if needed in a potential war with Israel. They could end the peace treaty and deploy in Sinai.

Israel's F35 on other hand is much more for Egypt than Iran. Iran is too big and far for Israel. And it's nuclear assets are well protected. Which is why Israel asks US to spearhead a war on Iran. The F35's are actually intended for Egypt primarily, to attack them in a surprise fashion.
 
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Egypt has around 40,000 troops deployed in the Egyptian Sinai peninsula. And unclear in what kind of formation. Some are at border near Gaza. Others in anti-terror missions across the peninsula.

They cannot deploy in traditional military formation due to peace treaty.

So what matters is what kind of infrastructure they have prepared to rapidly deploy across Suez Canal into Sinai. And if they have military storage sites in Sinai and what kind of fuel reserves they're stockpiling there.

Bridges, highways, tank transporters, etc.... Egypt is at a big disadvantage if Israel wages a offensive war or tries to carry out a ethnic cleansing of Gaza into Sinai. That's where other neighboring states come into play to distract Israel and spread them thin.

In a defensive war Egypt will be able to hold its own.
 
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"According to sources

Arab consultations to prepare for Gaza reconstruction conference with broad European participation

Civilians in Gaza will be transferred "inside Gaza" to safe areas in preparation for the reconstruction phase.

More than 24 multinational companies will participate in the reconstruction of Gaza"
 
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"According to Reuters

Egyptian President Sisi will not attend any White House talks if the agenda includes the displacement of Gaza residents

The opposite of what the Jordanian king did"

Maasha'Allah, Egypt drew a red line in the sand.
 
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