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Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Your intellectual dishonesty in not answering the question that was asked, however, is not appreciated.
Flotilla
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Or Mavi Marmara murdering. They killed for free, the looted and they were condecorated.
We all were lied to: Gaza was a modern, developed city before October 7 - opinion
The Gaza Strip has been compared to an open-air prison for years by anti-Israel activists and media outlets. Now, IDF Reservist Roi Yanovsky shares what he saw in reality:
By ROI YANOVSKYFEBRUARY 5, 2024 14:29 Updated: FEBRUARY 6, 2024 15:34
I was recently released from reserve duty in Gaza, after serving 100 days in the IDF. Since the world can’t see firsthand the things I saw there, I feel I have to share.
For years, well before October 7th, we’ve heard about how terrible life is for the poor, oppressed Gazans. How anti-Israel activists and media outlets claim the Gaza Strip can be compared to an open-air prison. This became the standard, accepted narrative about life in Gaza, promulgated by Al Jazeera and international human rights groups. But now, having experienced it myself, I can confidently tell you that we were lied to.
Gaza City was modern and developed
Gaza has been depicted as a backwards, "densely populated" area that’s been under Israeli "siege" for years. There's no bigger lie than this. Pre-war Gaza was a modern, beautiful, developed city – with large, furnished houses, wide avenues, public areas, a promenade, and parks. It looked much better than any other Arab city “from the river to the sea.” Gaza City reminds me more of Tel Aviv than the awful slums that some people try to make it out to be.And, of course, Gaza is far from being the "most densely populated area in the world."
If this is how a city looks after two decades of "siege," then I want to be sieged. The houses in Gaza were full of goods and food from across the Middle East, the houses had modern furniture, appliances, and pretty much any up-to-date consumer product and electronics you can imagine.
There are also high-end mansions that could easily have been in Los Angeles or Beverly Hills. There was no lack of wealth in Gaza.
I realize now that the optimistic notion that "if only Gazans had the chance for a better life, they would not be fighting Israel," is irrelevant for Gaza. Many of them had everything a normal person in the West strives for, yet Hamas still executed their October 7th massacre.
The most common thing I saw inside the houses was a map of the State of Israel, with the heading "Map of Palestine." There is no mention of the internationally recognized borders of Israel, or any Israeli city or kibbutz. The goal of eradicating the only Jewish State was not hidden or played down, it was everywhere.
Despite the prosperity we saw in Gaza city, it was hiding something you won't see in any Western city. Every neighborhood we visited had staged and ready-to-operate Hamas combat zones – weapons, tunneling, explosives, rocket launch zones, all inside normal family homes, some already built with openings in the walls to enable moving easily between buildings.
Gazans knew about Hamas’ hidden combat infrastructure and received many warnings from the IDF to leave ahead of our arrival. We saw the IDF's pamphlets that were dropped by the Israeli Air Force everywhere we went. Those who decided to stay in the fighting zones are either Hamas terrorists, or people who knowingly decided to stay in areas that are used by Hamas for battle.
We also saw that Hamas terrorists rarely moved around armed or in uniform. They are terrorists but even they believe the IDF is a moral army. They know IDF soldiers will not shoot them if they walk around as "civilians." They butchered Israeli civilians on October 7, but we came into Gaza looking only for terrorists and they take advantage of it. They prepare their weapons in advance, typically near building entries, and pick them up just before attacking. This is one reason why fighting in Gaza is significantly more complex than other arenas. This is why, when they say civilians die, you'll never know if they were Hamas members attempting to kill soldiers before they died.
Like any terror group Hamas' strategic weapons are lies and propaganda. That's how they were able to promote their lie about a "siege" in the world's leading media outlets. That's how the Gaza Ministry of Health, controlled by Hamas, is able to publish ridiculous, unverified numbers of casualties every day, which are used by the US State Department and other Western governments.
The Gaza I saw was different than the lies we've been fed by Hamas. As they cling to their control of Gaza, we shouldn't fall for the other lies they propagate. Like any other terror group, they must be dismantled.
Roi Yanovsky is an IDF Reservist who was recently released after 100 days in Gaza.
This op-ed is published in partnership with a coalition of organizations that fight antisemitism across the world.
We all were lied to: Gaza was a modern, developed city before October 7 | The Jerusalem Post
The Gaza Strip has been compared to an open-air prison for years by anti-Israel activists and media outlets. Now, IDF Reservist Roi Yanovsky shares what he saw in reality:
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KingQamaR
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We all were lied to: Gaza was a modern, developed city before October 7 - opinion
The Gaza Strip has been compared to an open-air prison for years by anti-Israel activists and media outlets. Now, IDF Reservist Roi Yanovsky shares what he saw in reality:
By ROI YANOVSKYFEBRUARY 5, 2024 14:29 Updated: FEBRUARY 6, 2024 15:34
Al Khalady Mosque in Gaza(photo credit: SHUTTERSTOCK)
I was recently released from reserve duty in Gaza, after serving 100 days in the IDF. Since the world can’t see firsthand the things I saw there, I feel I have to share.
For years, well before October 7th, we’ve heard about how terrible life is for the poor, oppressed Gazans. How anti-Israel activists and media outlets claim the Gaza Strip can be compared to an open-air prison. This became the standard, accepted narrative about life in Gaza, promulgated by Al Jazeera and international human rights groups. But now, having experienced it myself, I can confidently tell you that we were lied to.
Gaza City was modern and developed
Gaza has been depicted as a backwards, "densely populated" area that’s been under Israeli "siege" for years. There's no bigger lie than this. Pre-war Gaza was a modern, beautiful, developed city – with large, furnished houses, wide avenues, public areas, a promenade, and parks. It looked much better than any other Arab city “from the river to the sea.” Gaza City reminds me more of Tel Aviv than the awful slums that some people try to make it out to be.
And, of course, Gaza is far from being the "most densely populated area in the world."
If this is how a city looks after two decades of "siege," then I want to be sieged. The houses in Gaza were full of goods and food from across the Middle East, the houses had modern furniture, appliances, and pretty much any up-to-date consumer product and electronics you can imagine.
Pre-war Gaza (Credit: Shutterstock)
There are also high-end mansions that could easily have been in Los Angeles or Beverly Hills. There was no lack of wealth in Gaza.
I realize now that the optimistic notion that "if only Gazans had the chance for a better life, they would not be fighting Israel," is irrelevant for Gaza. Many of them had everything a normal person in the West strives for, yet Hamas still executed their October 7th massacre.
The most common thing I saw inside the houses was a map of the State of Israel, with the heading "Map of Palestine." There is no mention of the internationally recognized borders of Israel, or any Israeli city or kibbutz. The goal of eradicating the only Jewish State was not hidden or played down, it was everywhere.
Despite the prosperity we saw in Gaza city, it was hiding something you won't see in any Western city. Every neighborhood we visited had staged and ready-to-operate Hamas combat zones – weapons, tunneling, explosives, rocket launch zones, all inside normal family homes, some already built with openings in the walls to enable moving easily between buildings.
Gazans knew about Hamas’ hidden combat infrastructure and received many warnings from the IDF to leave ahead of our arrival. We saw the IDF's pamphlets that were dropped by the Israeli Air Force everywhere we went. Those who decided to stay in the fighting zones are either Hamas terrorists, or people who knowingly decided to stay in areas that are used by Hamas for battle.
We also saw that Hamas terrorists rarely moved around armed or in uniform. They are terrorists but even they believe the IDF is a moral army. They know IDF soldiers will not shoot them if they walk around as "civilians." They butchered Israeli civilians on October 7, but we came into Gaza looking only for terrorists and they take advantage of it. They prepare their weapons in advance, typically near building entries, and pick them up just before attacking. This is one reason why fighting in Gaza is significantly more complex than other arenas. This is why, when they say civilians die, you'll never know if they were Hamas members attempting to kill soldiers before they died.
Like any terror group Hamas' strategic weapons are lies and propaganda. That's how they were able to promote their lie about a "siege" in the world's leading media outlets. That's how the Gaza Ministry of Health, controlled by Hamas, is able to publish ridiculous, unverified numbers of casualties every day, which are used by the US State Department and other Western governments.
The Gaza I saw was different than the lies we've been fed by Hamas. As they cling to their control of Gaza, we shouldn't fall for the other lies they propagate. Like any other terror group, they must be dismantled.
Roi Yanovsky is an IDF Reservist who was recently released after 100 days in Gaza.
This op-ed is published in partnership with a coalition of organizations that fight antisemitism across the world.
We all were lied to: Gaza was a modern, developed city before October 7 | The Jerusalem Post
The Gaza Strip has been compared to an open-air prison for years by anti-Israel activists and media outlets. Now, IDF Reservist Roi Yanovsky shares what he saw in reality:
Honestly, there’s people and jEws out there that will still argue about the justification of genocide when facts are given. Israel has essentially had build a prison around Gaza and told everyone inside that wall to deal with it. Gaza people have been forced into hunger and poverty while Israel builds settlements on stolen land next to the wall.
StormOfTruth
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The operations carried out by the Palestinian resistance groups on Monday, February 5, are as follows:
Al-Qassam Brigades’ operations:
Al-Qassam Brigades’ operations:
- Seized a Skylark reconnaissance drone belonging to the Israeli military during its secretive spying mission, west of Khan Younis city, southern Gaza Strip.
- In a joint operation with Al-Quds Brigades, shelled a concentration of Israeli military forces infiltrating west of Gaza City using mortar shells and 107mm rockets.
- Ambushed an Israeli military convoy and detonated three pre-planted explosive devices on a Merkava tank and targeted another tank with a Yassin-105 shell west of Khan Younis city.
- Targeted four Merkava tanks with Yassin 105 shells, west of Khan Younis city and southwest of Gaza City.
- Targeted a group of Israeli soldiers entrenched in a house with a TBG anti-fortification, west of Khan Younis city, southern Gaza Strip, causing casualties.
- Targeted Israeli soldiers with anti-personnel "Buraq" bombs in the axes of Khan Younis.
- Shelled Israeli troops and vehicles with mortars in the axis southwest of Khan Younis.
- Shelled a concentration of Israeli troops and vehicles east of the al-Maghazi camp in the central Gaza Strip.
- Launched Grad rockets at IOF forces and military vehicles in the axis of the neighborhood west of Khan Yunis, accurately hitting their targets.
- Shelled Israeli troops and vehicles in the Tel al-Hawa axis, southwest of Gaza City, using 107mm rockets and mortar shells.
- Shelled a concentration of Israeli soldiers with a barrage of mortar shells east of al-Masdar village, central Gaza Strip.
- Fired rockets and mortar shells at Israeli troops around the Industry areas in Gaza City.
- Shot dead an Israeli soldier in the center of Khan Younis city, southern Gaza.
- Targeted a Merkava tank, west of Gaza City, with an explosive device and RPGs, igniting it instantly and resulting in injuries and deaths.
- Shelled an Israeli military concentration and vehicles with mortar shells and Al Aqsa rockets around the Industry area, west of Gaza City.
- Engaged in fierce clashes with Israeli soldiers and vehicles in the axis west of Khan Younis.
- Engaged in clashes with Israeli soldiers and their vehicles in the axis west of Gaza City.
- Targeted concentrations of Israeli forces southwest of Gaza City with short-range rockets.
- Engaged in fierce clashes with Israeli forces in the axes of west Gaza City, using appropriate weapons.
Unknowntruth
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These murderers do not spare anything not even the animals.
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UKBengali
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This is a significant moment as the BDS movement against the Zionist entity looks like it is being joined by the world's major corporations.
Apart from Zionist controlled and infiltrated US/UK and the German "cucks' we could within a very short period of time(1-2 years) see a mass boycott of the settler colony like we had with apartheid S Africa.
Ali_Baba
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It is important that the ICJ case by South Africa is not bought to a premature end - otherwise all that suffering by the Palestinans will be for nothing. There is a real chance to make things better for Palestinians with the ICJ case if it proceeds.
I expect the mother of all pressure acts on South Africa for them to remove their case. Lets see. I hope I am wrong.
UKBengali
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The important point about ICJ is that it provides legal cover for the BDS movement.
Once a major corporation and country like Japan has moved against the entity, then other developing countries will feel more emboldened to do the same.
lightning f57
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The zionist nazis might be cheering and happily recording their genocide, however slowly rest of the world who has been asleep to their attrocities are waking up. Infact so much of their massacres are recorded and available will likely make it tje most recorded genocide in history.
The zionists over time will lose support from even the neutrals only their hard-core backers will remain and eventually they will fall as well. Tyranny can not last either Israel changes iself or it will be changed.
The zionists over time will lose support from even the neutrals only their hard-core backers will remain and eventually they will fall as well. Tyranny can not last either Israel changes iself or it will be changed.
The zionists would never agree to this they dream of a greater israel with the sinai parts of lebanon, iraq, SA, Jordan. They are the ones who are calling the shots.
Khansaheeb
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That's where the TRIPC alliance should come in to persuade Israel. The Israelis can hardly match Hamas and even with the backing of US and UK they cannot withstand the might of TRIPC nations.
Hassan Al-Somal
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In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most MercifulPress Statement
The Hamas movement recently delivered its response regarding the framework agreement to the brothers in Qatar and Egypt, after completing leadership consultations in the movement and with the resistance factions.
The movement dealt with the proposal in a positive spirit, ensuring a comprehensive and complete ceasefire, ending the aggression against our people, ensuring relief, shelter, and reconstruction, lifting the siege on the Gaza Strip, and completing a prisoner exchange.
We value the role of our brothers in Egypt, Qatar, and all countries that seek to stop the brutal aggression against our people.
As we salute our people and their legendary steadfastness and valiant resistance, especially in the Gaza Strip, we affirm that we in the Hamas movement and with all national forces and factions are continuing to defend our people, on the path to ending the occupation and fulfilling their legitimate national rights to their land and sanctities.
*Islamic Resistance Movement - Hamas*
Tuesday: 25 Rajab 1445 AH
Corresponding to: 06 February 2024 AD
Unknowntruth
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More cowardly killings of kids for no reason caught on tape. This is more war crimes, where is the outrage? They have been nothing but a cancer to the Middle East. So many countries destroyed for the sake of the last colonial outpost of the west.
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