Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Falcon29]

Absence is of a strategy by the Islamic world is worrying. Iran is not prepared for a war with Israel. Iran led-axis was taken by surprise and not prepared for this scenario. Iran takes defensive route of deterrence for its long term nuclear program. Saudi-led axis are subjugated to their masters and will just go along with them. Turkey is focused on Turkic peoples and balancing its relations with Europe/ME. All three major parties do not trust each other. Each will take advantage of power vacuum and try to come out of situation as strongest. So each will espouse different vision for the region. Which is more related to their national interests and not based upon a set of principles like how the West does with democracy and democratic values. Hence, they're more successful in projecting power and influence.

Muslims don't campaign on set of principles. Even if they claim otherwise. I don't buy that Saudi Arabia, Turkey, or Iran are operating on Islamic principles and want to advance them for the people of the region. They use Islam and don't actually believe in it. They use it to shoehorn their way into dominance of the region with them guiding affairs at the top. And don't know how to share power between each other without enforcing their beliefs/mindset onto others. You can not get anywhere like this.

To be clear, I do believe the people believe in Islam. I don't believe they subscribe to the idea of believing Islamic principles being foundation/core of their sociopolitical vision.

So, then the question is. What is our vision? Maintain security/dictatorships, with secular lifestyle or partial democracy? It's all over the place. Even they are bad at maintaining authoritarian rule. At least, if you're North Korean, it's exciting and can make you proud. There's nothing to make you proud if you're Middle Eastern.

 

[Falcon29]

Egypt shamelessly has accepted that Israel will attack Rafah

That's because if Hamas endures Israel can't claim any sort of victory and only has blackened it's own face with the slaughter and that has worldwide consequences for Jews and Israel

So they will attack Rafah, Egypt should have put it foot down and threatened Israel


But like cowards the Egyptians are creating a blocked off area, this is so the PALESTINIANs can't be expelled from Gaza, but get a safe zone outside of Gaza, from where they have been promised they can return to gaza from
So instead of acting like men, the Egyptians are acting like jackals

So a attack in Rafah will most likely go ahead unless international pressure gets too large, but unless the Egyptians grow a spine, it will definitely go ahead because the excuse will be used that a space has been found to protect the Palestinians

The whole scenario being played out was approved by the Pentagon and regional governments since day one or before day one. They deliberately ethnically cleansed people out of northern Gaza towards the south until they jammed the city of Rafah 1.5 million Palestinians. Which suggests the plan is to attempt a major ethnic cleansing of the people of Gaza. And if they succeed, they will never be allowed into Gaza again. And Israel/US will be working to settle them elsewhere in the region/overseas. Absolutely no one cares. And no one is willing to fight Israel to prevent this.

Even if people were told Egypt is open for you and your expenses/needs will be taken care of. No one will sign up for a counter-invasion of Israel. No one wants to risk their life and sacrifice it. Since they do not sincerely or completely believe in a set of principles. And weak belief of afterlife, God, his Prophet's, plays a big role in that. But, also experiences of seeing rich people/powerful use them as cannon fodder to achieve their goals. They're not going to fight for such leaders. Good leaders are important. So if sacrifice is required, you can know the future will be left behind with someone you can trust even after you're dead. And you want those leaders values to align with yours.

 

[Falcon29]

Hezbollah has not been managing this front well, in my opinion. Nasrallah in his speech two days ago stated that the strike on this governate would be avenged. Since then, volume of attacks decreased from Lebanon, and almost completely ceased today. Israel has now attacked the same area again. I understand being risk-adverse and trying to hide your cards, but this will embolden Israel and its not deterring Israel from doing whatever it wants in Gaza. You have to up the ante and show you will cross a line too.

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[PakFactor]

Israelis will only go after the Muslim holy places in Jerusalem once they are sure there wouldn't be a huge backlash. And with globalization and loosening of religious-based world order, that day may eventually come but I don't think happening for the next several decades.

Also, while the destruction in Gaza is indeed a huge tragedy, I don't think the Gazans have lost at least yet. I think they are still being supplied weaponry from Egypt and thus the Philadelphia Corridor has become a very important flashpoint in this conflict. But I don't know to what extent Egypt is willing to go. I don't know when, if at all, the Lebanon and the Syrian fronts become truly active.

It may be sooner than you think. This conflict has exposed the Muslim world for the eunuchs they are and ultimately lifted the veil off the Islamic World as it did for Russia, a paper tiger. The threat the Western World thought the Muslims to be 2 billion strong is no more.

What I foresee now is the gathering of the West to launch more attacks; if little Israel can do it and hold off the Arab World, there's nothing the rest can do, and there will be a free-for-all.

In my view, if the West wants to slaughter more Muslims, they have the full right to do so as the most robust live and the weak perish. It's been the law of mankind since the beginning, and I'm perfectly fine with that. Let the duck hunting season begin.

The faults lie in our stars.

 

[r3alist]

They will not even get angry. Israel could blow the Al-Aqsa mosque and blame Hamas. And Muslims likewise, out of weakness and lack of character, will blame Hamas and say Hamas got us in this situation. People just want to live trouble-free, but how do they think you get to the point of being able to live trouble-free? There's years of work/effort going into that and once those foundations are built, you have to maintain them and continue to develop them to adapt to changing realities.

So the reality is clear.

Maybe it's just mental habit, but everyone surely needs to stop thinking Turkey will do x, Saudi will do y, Iran will do x.

Everyone is saving their own skin.

The answer has to be globally inclusive.

There are poorer, smaller and non Muslim counties who see the need for justice in Gaza...south Africa, Ireland, Spain, Ecuador etc etc

Guess what united them, not religion.

Justice, they fight for the justice of Gaza based on the principle of justice.

If they mobilise for your cause, what do you do for them.

Just something to ponder.

 

[FuturePAF]

If the Israelis are destroying Iranian pipelines, knocking out 15% of daily Iranian production, as stated by a western official, will Iranian backed forced start attacking pipelines in the region? GCC infrastructure? Azerbaijani and Turkish pipelines that supply Israel?

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[Falcon29]

So the reality is clear.

Maybe it's just mental habit, but everyone surely needs to stop thinking Turkey will do x, Saudi will do y, Iran will do x.

Everyone is saving their own skin.

The answer has to be globally inclusive.

There are poorer, smaller and non Muslim counties who see the need for justice in Gaza...south Africa, Ireland, Spain, Ecuador etc etc

Guess what united them, not religion.

Justice, they fight for the justice of Gaza based on the principle of justice.

If they mobilise for your cause, what do you do for them.

Just something to ponder.

It's good to see poorer and smaller nations take the lead when it comes to establishing international justice. Everyone with a good conscious is united on these issues. And it's great to see.

I still think it's important for the region to reform. In my view, religion doesn't serve purpose of uniting or dividing people. It's a real revelation from our Creator. I don't think people should forget our Creator and think we should navigate through life without him. And without being thankful to him.

People made religion hard for themselves. Because of crooks claiming to abide by religious principles but their actions show otherwise. And because of misunderstanding of God and changing lifestyles. So they may not be interested in God at the moment, but I think that's not right. God can certainly help us, even though he owes us nothing. And we should be grateful to him even before his help arrives. And not be in a transactional relationship with him.

 

[Falcon29]

Palestinian media: Israeli aircraft target areas east of Rafah with heavy bombardment

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[r3alist]

It's good to see poorer and smaller nations take the lead when it comes to establishing international justice. Everyone with a good conscious is united on these issues. And it's great to see.

I still think it's important for the region to reform. In my view, religion doesn't serve purpose of uniting or dividing people. It's a real revelation from our Creator. I don't think people should forget our Creator and think we should navigate through life without him. And without being thankful to him.

People made religion hard for themselves. Because of crooks claiming to abide by religious principles but their actions show otherwise. And because of misunderstanding of God and changing lifestyles. So they may not be interested in God at the moment, but I think that's not right. God can certainly help us, even though he owes us nothing. And we should be grateful to him even before his help arrives. And not be in a transactional relationship with him.

Regional reform will take time that's not there.

Religion cannot be the only and sole lens for a broader justice concern

These countries didn't have to do jack.

 

[Get Ya Wig Split]

The whole scenario being played out was approved by the Pentagon and regional governments since day one or before day one. They deliberately ethnically cleansed people out of northern Gaza towards the south until they jammed the city of Rafah 1.5 million Palestinians. Which suggests the plan is to attempt a major ethnic cleansing of the people of Gaza. And if they succeed, they will never be allowed into Gaza again. And Israel/US will be working to settle them elsewhere in the region/overseas. Absolutely no one cares. And no one is willing to fight Israel to prevent this.

Even if people were told Egypt is open for you and your expenses/needs will be taken care of. No one will sign up for a counter-invasion of Israel. No one wants to risk their life and sacrifice it. Since they do not sincerely or completely believe in a set of principles. And weak belief of afterlife, God, his Prophet's, plays a big role in that. But, also experiences of seeing rich people/powerful use them as cannon fodder to achieve their goals. They're not going to fight for such leaders. Good leaders are important. So if sacrifice is required, you can know the future will be left behind with someone you can trust even after you're dead. And you want those leaders values to align with yours.

How come you've been advocating for an attack on Israel right from the start even demanding other countries to attack Israel while you hide who knows where? Why aren't you out there on the ground? Nobody's fighting for religion anymore those days are long gone.

Most of the Middle East wants to thrive and progress so what you're writing about in the long run is less important. People like you who support terrorism and killings are in the minority. The majority of the Muslim world wants to live in peace and prosperity.

 

[Khansaheeb]

To be clear, I do believe the people believe in Islam. I don't believe they subscribe to the idea of believing Islamic principles being foundation/core of their sociopolitical vision.

So, then the question is. What is our vision? Maintain security/dictatorships, with secular lifestyle or partial democracy? It's all over the place. Even they are bad at maintaining authoritarian rule. At least, if you're North Korean, it's exciting and can make you proud. There's nothing to make you proud if you're Middle Eastern.

The question is strength of believe, seems not strong enough for Jihad.

 

[Get Ya Wig Split]

The whole scenario being played out was approved by the Pentagon and regional governments since day one or before day one. They deliberately ethnically cleansed people out of northern Gaza towards the south until they jammed the city of Rafah 1.5 million Palestinians. Which suggests the plan is to attempt a major ethnic cleansing of the people of Gaza. And if they succeed, they will never be allowed into Gaza again. And Israel/US will be working to settle them elsewhere in the region/overseas. Absolutely no one cares. And no one is willing to fight Israel to prevent this.

Even if people were told Egypt is open for you and your expenses/needs will be taken care of. No one will sign up for a counter-invasion of Israel. No one wants to risk their life and sacrifice it. Since they do not sincerely or completely believe in a set of principles. And weak belief of afterlife, God, his Prophet's, plays a big role in that. But, also experiences of seeing rich people/powerful use them as cannon fodder to achieve their goals. They're not going to fight for such leaders. Good leaders are important. So if sacrifice is required, you can know the future will be left behind with someone you can trust even after you're dead. And you want those leaders values to align with yours.

LOL why would Egypt dive headfirst into a total war with Israel? Do you think Egypt doesn't give a damn about its people? You think this is some kind of video game where you bounce back after getting whacked?

Israel's packing nuclear heat, one bomb could wipe out all of Egypt. Ain't nobody nuts enough to pull off that kinda stunt. You straight up said you're into terrorism so it's obvious what you're backing and cheering for.

 

[Khansaheeb]

 

[Khansaheeb]

LOL why would Egypt dive headfirst into a total war with Israel? Do you think Egypt doesn't give a damn about its people? You think this is some kind of video game where you bounce back after getting whacked?

Israel's packing nuclear heat, one bomb could wipe out all of Egypt. Ain't nobody nuts enough to pull off that kinda stunt. You straight up said you're into terrorism so it's obvious what you're backing and cheering for.

This is the best time for Egypt to get into a total war with Israel, while Israel' forces are bogged down in Gaza and getting hammered by Hezbos. If Jordan attacks too the Israel will economically melt into oblivion.