Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present
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Dalit
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Famine confirmed in Gaza City for first time, UN-backed report says
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Make no mistake. This is modern day Karbala. The Muslims have yet again failed to show up except a handful.
Famine in Gaza City is 'failure of humanity', UN chief says
A UN-backed body confirms famine in Gaza City and surrounding areas, and says half a million are facing "catastrophic" conditions.
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Make no mistake. This is modern day Karbala. The Muslims have yet again failed to show up except a handful.
hussain0216
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All the Arabs had to do was declare sanctions on Israel and any company working with Israel and their would be enough pressure to free the Palestinians
The Arabs chose this path
The Jews will suffer because of this and they will lose Israel but not because of anything the Arabs will do
hussain0216
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Buddy, please stop with the Jew lies, no one is biting
We need to get the new out of the middle east, the welfare of hundreds of millions cannot be out at risk because of this toxic population
Falcon29
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This is a lot worse than Karbala. It's more like Mongol destruction of Baghdad. But obviously Gaza isn't a empire, it's a tiny besieged territory, and it's far worse even than Mongol destruction of Baghdad. That wasn't considered a genocide but this is.Famine confirmed in Gaza City for first time, UN-backed report says
Famine in Gaza City is 'failure of humanity', UN chief says
A UN-backed body confirms famine in Gaza City and surrounding areas, and says half a million are facing "catastrophic" conditions.
Make no mistake. This is modern day Karbala. The Muslims have yet again failed to show up except a handful.
Karbala is a whole different scenario. Hussein didn't seek to sacrifice himself and his family/friends. Neither do people of Gaza. That's important to note. We don't believe in sacrifices or mass suicide. Israeli systematic slaughter of civilian population in Gaza isn't a 'mass suicide' by people of Gaza, that's imposed violence by a occupying entity.
Hussein rebelled against the ruler and supporters of his in Iraq backed out and didn't follow through. He was betrayed. Then he was killed which shouldn't have happened. But it was clear some people did not want him nor his dad or brother to rule. And gave his dad a hard time. His brother eventually stepped down from his own rule to Muwaiyah.
As Sunnis we believe Allah compensated them by having Mahdi rule in end times from their lineage or more specifically the linage of the Prophet Mohammed. And Sunni's believes some people were nawasib or hated people from the family of the Prophet. And some were Khawarij that sought to stoke civil war amongst Muslims.
If you look deeper into it, you can see people were split. For example, Mohammed Abu Bakr was one of people who rebelled against Othman Ibn Affan, and he was Abu Bakrs son, and he supported Ali. And he was killed in a fight with Muwaiyah supporting forces.
Talha, Aisha's RA cousin was killed in Battle of Carmel. Lots of good people were killed in the fitnah. And lots that weren't Ahyul Al Bayt got killed on Ali's side. Then Ali himself was killed by a Khawarij.
There's definitely 'hasd' involved in this that brought about these fitnahs. And some khawarij/nawasib having a fixation against Ali and Ahyul Al Bayt. This doesn't affect our core beliefs as Sunnis or make us adopt Imamate concept as there's no proof for us of that in the Quran and it also contradicts our core beliefs.
If anyone tries to black and white the fitnah, they won't come to a defining conclusion. Fitnah can start easily especially in Arab world. There are rogue elements that we can recognize and should work to isolate.
I believe, however, that some of that same historical enimty/hatred against Ali and Ahyul Albayt is part of the same one we see against Hamas and Gaza Mujahideen. Especially by Saudi led Salafist camp and others. They sense something good in Hamas that's similar to Ahyul Al Bayt and that's why they have hasd against Hamas.
And I think some of these people will come out against the Mahdi, who I believe will be a normal person born at end times, named Mohammed or Ahmed Abdullah. And that they will come out against him out of hasd towards him. Some such people will be from both Sunni + Shia background. That's only what makes logical sense.
Hassan Al-Somal
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Hassan Al-Somal
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Congratulations, Arabs and Muslims.In your time, Gaza’s children died of hunger.
In your days, bread and milk were besieged.
In your era, famine was declared in Gaza, while you remained silent, watching.
Congratulations on the shame that will cloak you until the Day of Judgment. Congratulations that history will record:
That Muslim children died in masses in Gaza,
While the Ummah stood still, watching them turn into skeletons.
So sleep well upon your lavish feasts…
and leave Gaza to consume its hunger and its death.
Hassan Al-Somal
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Falcon29
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Hussein didn't sacrifice himself. Hussein wanted to send a message to leadership at the time. He wanted reform.
Some of his companions advised against going to Iraq. And told him not to rebel against the government. He made his choice in what he believes in and didn't except to be killed, along with people with him, and neither did the leadership at the time. Even though it appears to me they were against him or his brother ruling. Or his dad.
Ali saw himself as deserving of rule and justified to be a leader which I personally agree with. I don't believe Prophet wanted him to rule immediately after his death. I've done my research and haven't came to such a conclusion. And I believe Sunni account on bayaah of Abu Bakr, reason it wasn't delayed, reason Ali was upset, Abu Bakr apology to Ali, and Ali apology to Abu Bakr, and Ali Bayaah to Abu Bakr. Abu Bakr was a great companion to the Prophet Mohammed and Mohammed was divinely inspired by God and received revelation. Mohammed is superior to all non-Prophets and the best of Prophets. This is verified. He is not mislead or was played or any other such conceptions.
I believe the Saheeh ahadeeths of Sunnis. People back then had good memory they ate healthy, exercised and had proper sleep cycles. Very different from modern generation which is exposed to information overload and electronics affected their sleep cycles.
I do not believe Saints or Imam's ideologies of some Christians and Shias. For me only Prophets are considered divine sources for God's revelations and we have to follow their example/guidance, particularly that of our Prophet Mohammed. I don't follow Abu Bakr or Ali or Hussain or Muwaiyah, I go off what the Prophet taught us and guided us on. Which is what they go off as well. Which is Allah and his Prophet.
But I don't believe in Salafis which talk a big game but their actions don't match. Or their over emphasis on things just to counter Shia competition. I personally am not fan of influential scholarly bases of Salafis or Twelver Shias. For me they bring a lot of fitnah and competition for worldly purposes.
But that's a whole other discussion which I won't get deep into.
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In IDF-controlled Rafah, an armed clan’s school plants seeds of a Hamas-free future
The Abu Shabab gang claims to have carved out an area where it is providing electricity, medical care and education for thousands of displaced Gazans under IDF protection
By Nurit Yohanan21 August 2025, 9:51 pm
The school in eastern Rafah, run by the forces of Yasser Abu Shabab, August 10, 2025. (Screenshot: Facebook, clause 27a of the copyright law)
For nearly two years, schools across the Gaza Strip have been largely shut down.
But in eastern Rafah, a rare exception has emerged: a small school operating in an area controlled by the Abu Shabab clan — an anti-Hamas group with possible ties to Israel and a questionable past — that now serves more than 100 kids from kindergarten through seventh grade.
The school eschews Palestinian Authority textbooks previously prevalent in Gaza, with teachers apparently recruited from among displaced Palestinians living in a part of Gaza controlled by the Israel Defense Forces and appears to educate pupils along progressive ideas of pluralism and tolerance.
“We want to create a generation of learners, not terrorists,” said Mohammed, a senior member of Abu Shabab’s forces, in a phone interview with The Times of Israel.
(Mohammed and all others who spoke to The Times of Israel for this article requested that they only be referred to by fictitious names to preserve their anonymity.)
In central Gaza, another school has also sprung up, with a similar stated mission of educating children away from hate.
Both initiatives appear to address longstanding Israeli concerns regarding Palestinian education, which critics say includes content that incites against Israelis and Jews, perpetuating narratives that fuel distrust and conflict rather than coexistence.
Civilian infrastructure under clan authority
According to footage published online, some of it by the Abu Shabab group, and members of Abu Shabab’s forces who talked to the Times of Israel, the clan has established both security structures, but also civilian infrastructure to support several thousand Palestinians living in an area of Rafah under full security control of the IDF.Infrastructure in place includes electricity, water, a medical center and the school itself, which serves around 130 children.
The head of the clan, Yasser Abu Shabab, is a Bedouin Palestinian from Rafah who was little known in Gaza or Israel before October 7. Arab media reports have linked him to criminal activity, including theft and drug trafficking, and describe him as the leader of a family-based militia.
According to Al Jazeera, Abu Shabab was jailed at one point by Hamas, but he has denied these claims, telling the Sunday Times in July that before the war, he was merely a construction worker with no military experience.
Armed members of the Abu Shabab clan in uniform in the Rafah area, May 2025. (Screenshot: Twitter, clause 27a)
Hamas has accused the Abu Shabab militia of stealing humanitarian aid to sell for profit. A leaked UN memo reported on by The Washington Post in November 2024 described him as “the primary and most influential figure behind systematic looting of aid convoys.”
There is evidence to suggest that the group, whose members are wanted by Hamas, is now operating under the aegis or tacit consent of Israel in areas of Gaza under IDF security control, though it has not been confirmed.
A video published on the official Abu Shabab Facebook page on June 3 showed the forces hosting displaced families in tents, guarding aid trucks and distributing food packages, though it is unclear if the group was acting under any authorization or had seized the aid.
Satellite analysis published in Haaretz geolocated the group’s activities to an area between the Morag Corridor and Rafah, which has been under Israeli control since April.
On June 5, Israel confirmed supplying weapons to “Bedouin groups in Rafah to weaken Hamas,” without confirming reports that it was supporting Abu Shabab directly.
People walk amid shelters in Rafah, in the southern Gaza Strip, as smoke billows during Israeli bombardment on June 11, 2025. (Photo by AFP)
According to Mohammed, Abu Shabab — which describes itself as “The Popular Forces” had built a de facto local administration in the area over the last few months.
“The medical and educational centers are part of the Popular Forces,” he said. “They brought in teachers, provided generators for electricity and drilled wells for water.”
In an August 10 video posted on the clan’s official Facebook page, Yasser Abu Shabab and two men, presented as senior members of his forces, are seen showing off the school, medical center and a kitchen serving daily meals to displaced families.
“There are 5,000 displaced people here,” Mohammed said. “Some families have 20 members, others just two after losing relatives in the war.”
Another armed clan member, Issa, confirmed to The Times of Israel that the group has been operating in the area for about six months. He said more displaced families were expected, but their arrival was delayed due to IDF activity nearby.
Yasser Abu Shabab, together with two men presented as senior members of his forces, on August 10, 2025. (Screenshot: Facebook, clause 27a of the copyright law).
In June, Yasser Abu Shabab told Israel’s Army Radio that he was not collaborating with the IDF. “We do not work with Israel. Our goal is to defend Palestinians from Hamas terror. Our weapons are simple, collected locally,” he said.
Weeks later, however, the Kan broadcaster aired another interview with a man purporting to be Abu Shabab in which he acknowledged working with the IDF. However, the clan denied that the speaker was Yasser Abu Shabab.
The fact that entry to the area requires IDF coordination suggests, at a minimum, tacit Israeli approval.
The IDF declined to comment when contacted by The Times of Israel.
School of rights
One of the key projects in the clan-controlled area is the new school.“We have six classrooms with 25 to 35 students each, from kindergarten to seventh grade,” Mohammed explained.
According to him, teachers were recruited from among the displaced Palestinians in the area.
Schools across Gaza have been shut since war erupted on October 7, 2023, except for some facilities that opened during a two-month ceasefire in January and February.
Before the war, Gaza’s schools, many of which were run by the UN agency for Palestinian refugees UNRWA, were criticized for indoctrinating children to hate Israelis and Jews.
A teacher in Al-Nasr Elementary School in Gaza City stands next to a chalkboard with text that reads, “You are the Toufan” (the flood), a reference to the al-Aqsa Flood, Hamas’s name for the October 7, 2023, massacre in Israel, February 23, 2025. (Omar AL-QATTAA / AFP)
Curriculum used by UNRWA and PA textbooks, which had been used in Gaza even after Hamas seized control of the Strip in 2007, were accused of promoting violence and terrorism against Israel, fueling hatred for future generations, critics said.
The Rafah school appears to have embraced a different path, though the source of its curriculum is unclear.
“We want a curriculum that replaces terror and violence with learning,” Mohammed said. For now, lessons are oral, not based on the flawed Palestinian Authority textbooks.”
In the Facebook video, a teacher can be seen leading a class discussion on human rights. A girl named Jamila recites that: “Human rights belong to everyone and are only restricted when they conflict with the law.”
On August 12, the Center for Peace Communications, a US-based nonprofit that supports inter-ethnic dialogue in the Middle East, published a separate video of the School.
In the video, a teacher explains hospitality, equality and freedom.
“Can I take a girl and lock her away?” she asks the class. “No, she has a right to freedom.” She also warns against discrimination based on religion or ethnicity.
The teacher in the video identifies herself as Samira Abu Mousa, with degrees from the Islamic University and Al-Aqsa University. She says her opposition to Hamas stems from discrimination she faced in seeking teaching jobs without political connections.
“I and people like me long for peace, hope and security,” she tells the class.
The school in eastern Rafah, run by the forces of Yasser Abu Shabab, August 12, 2025. (Screenshot: X, clause 27a of the copyright law)
In a subsequent post, the center wrote that it filmed the video in July, calling the area under Abu Shabab control a “pilot” for a “future free of Hamas.”
It is not clear if there is any relationship between the center and Abu Shabab. The center declined to comment.
Mohammed confirmed that the forces have “partners” with whom they are trying to develop civilian activity in the area, including at the school, but did not provide further details.
According to Issa, new equipment for the school arrived via the Kerem Shalom crossing recently, including computers and notebooks that he said had been donated by foreign groups and Arab-Israeli citizens. He declined to elaborate further.
In central Gaza, a separate initiative has launched a school for 600 displaced children in Deir al-Balah, an area with little Israeli ground presence but hundreds of thousands of refugees.
The school was established by Dr. David Hassan, a Palestinian-American physician, with support from the Israeli aid group SmartAID. It enrolls orphans from kindergarten through ninth grade and provides two daily meals with help from World Central Kitchen. Founder José Andrés visited the school during his August 15 trip to Gaza.
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José Andrés, founder of World Central Kitchen, during a visit to the organization’s central kitchen in Deir al-Balah, Gaza Strip, August 15, 2025. (World Central Kitchen)
Unlike the Abu Shabab effort, the school in Deir al-Balah still uses PA textbooks, albeit with modifications.
“We took the PA textbooks and only changed words,” Hassan told The Times of Israel over the phone. “We didn’t want to write something new, just fix problematic content. Our teachers are all women, carefully vetted to ensure no Hamas ties. Our vision is to reach 5,000 children. If we fail, there will be no other education without hate.”
According to Mohammed, aside from the school, the area under Abu Shabab administration also includes a medical center staffed by displaced doctors and nurses.
“We monitor chronic diseases, emergencies and provide medication for the elderly,” he said.
The clan member expressed hope that Gaza would in the future be administered by a “third option” that is neither Hamas nor Israel.
“We don’t like Hamas, we fought them, and we know life will be better without them,” Mohammed said. “What matters most is humanitarian action here in Rafah — because it ends terror and gives people the chance to live in peace and security.”
Falcon29
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There is no combat in Israel's renewed terrorist offensive on northern Gaza. Little to no Palestinain militants remaining.
It's entirely a terrorist operation aimed at removing the civilian population. That's moving at full force and greenlighted by the US.
It's entirely a terrorist operation aimed at removing the civilian population. That's moving at full force and greenlighted by the US.
Falcon29
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Israeli genocidal terrorism directed at the civilian population of Gaza is sparing no one. Not even infants.
Never forget this. The Jewish-American terrorist community will try to erase history of what happened in Gaza.
Never forget this. The Jewish-American terrorist community will try to erase history of what happened in Gaza.
Falcon29
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#Gaza Now Under Fire
The Muslims in Gaza now, with their women, children, elderly, sick, righteous, and reformers, are under bombardment, killing, and brutal Jewish terrorism.
We have called for their aid, O Lord, until the heavens are filled with our cries, yet there is no helper, no supporter. So grant Your relief, O Allah, and Your mercy upon Your servants, out of Your grace and generosity. There is no power nor strength except through You, O Allah.
The Muslims in Gaza now, with their women, children, elderly, sick, righteous, and reformers, are under bombardment, killing, and brutal Jewish terrorism.
We have called for their aid, O Lord, until the heavens are filled with our cries, yet there is no helper, no supporter. So grant Your relief, O Allah, and Your mercy upon Your servants, out of Your grace and generosity. There is no power nor strength except through You, O Allah.
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