Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Unknowntruth]

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[VCheng]

Except you know as well as I do, Israel does not want a Palestinian state. This is why I criticize the west because they are complicit in all of this. US vetoes any UN resolutions on Israel condemning them for their continued occupation and criminal actions. A 2 state solution will never be achieved if israel Is not held accountable. This is where all the failure is at.

The last US veto was over the demand for a ceasefire without including the release of hostages, please do not forget. There are things both sides can do to make progress possible.

 

[Unknowntruth]

The last US veto was over the demand for a ceasefire without including the release of hostages, please do not forget. There are things both sides can do to make progress possible.

Yes, release all the hostages including the thousands of ones in Israeli jails. What about many resolutions before that? What about US and the west not holding Israel accountable for the treatment of Palestinians, illegal settlements, land theft, oppression, etc? This is why they are emboldened to act freely knowing they will be protected by the West. They are even trying to stop people from boycotting Israel or be able to criticize them.

Palestinians are being stopped both from either resisting peacefully through boycotts or violence.

Do you not see something wrong with that?

 

[Antonius123]

So how did Israel manage to kill over 13,000 children then? All of Gaza is a base to you evidently.


Destruction of over 70 percent of Gaza says otherwise and photos and videos to back it up.


The person who desires war is the the occupier who humiliates, oppresses, kills with impunity, harass Palestinians, settler violence, destroys their economy, hinders their movement, etc




No, Palestinians don’t resist Israel because they are Jews. They resist them because they are their oppressors and colonizers.

You know warfare in the city will cause high fatalities on civilian? so you expect Israel didn't proceed with war just because Hamas is hiding behind civilian and under hospitals?

All the destruction is consequence of war, the war that you desire, and although the 70% building and infrastructure destructed but the fatalities is 30 thousands or about 1.5% of Gaza population.

Your definition of colonialization is according to your ideology and preference, not inline with humanity.

Although I don't agree with this warfare, but I don't sympathy to those who desire this war and I couldn't negate Israel right for retaliation against Hamas.

 

[Unknowntruth]

You know warfare in the city will cause high fatalities on civilian? so you expect Israel didn't proceed with war just because Hamas hide behind civilian?

All the destruction is consequence of war, the war that you desire, and although the 70% building and infrastructure destructed but the fatalities is 30 thousands or about 1.5% of Gaza population.

Your definition of colonialization is according to your ideology and preference, not inline with humanity.

No dropping dumb bombs on civilians causes high fatalities. Even western media has said nearly half of all bombs dropped on Gaza were dumb bombs.

You know what also causes more fatalities? Destroying the entire medical structure of Gaza by bombing and taking the hospitals out of service. The war on civilians.

The occupation and illegal settlement of West Bank is illegal under international law. Try again…

Your entire existence is by removing Palestinians from their homes and establishing a state on their blood over 500 Palestinian villages destroyed with 700,000 expelled.

 

[VCheng]

Yes, release all the hostages including the thousands of ones in Israeli jails. What about many resolutions before that? What about US and the west not holding Israel accountable for the treatment of Palestinians, illegal settlements, land theft, oppression, etc? This is why they are emboldened to act freely knowing they will be protected by the West. They are even trying to stop people from boycotting Israel or be able to criticize them.

Palestinians are being stopped both from either resisting peacefully through boycotts or violence.

Do you not see something wrong with that?

As I said before, arguing about who is justified or how we arrived at this point is irrelevant at this stage, given the magnitude of the catastrophe unfolding before our eyes. The real question here is what can be done by both sides to move the process for peace forward and provide immediate humanitarian relief.

 

[Unknowntruth]

As I said before, arguing about who is justified or how we arrived at this point is irrelevant at this stage, given the magnitude of the catastrophe unfolding before our eyes. The real question here is what can be done by both sides to move the process for peace forward and provide immediate humanitarian relief.

Once again, keep ignoring what I said about not holding Israel accountable now and before October 7. Keep deflecting , you are very good at that. The issue will always be the West defending Israel from any criticism or holding them accountable. If there is no solution it’s because of that.

 

[VCheng]

Once again, keep ignoring what I said about not holding Israel accountable now and before October 7. Keep deflecting , you are very good at that. The issue will always be the West defending Israel from any criticism or holding them accountable. If there is no solution it’s because of that.

So you find blame for the lack of a solution on the "West". All I can see is the lack of a solution itself. That is not deflection, merely keeping a sense of priorities in the right order.

It is far more important to do what needs to be done to stop the carnage as soon as possible, and the rest can follow. Arguing about who set fire to a home does nothing to put out the fire until the whole house burns down.

 

[Unknowntruth]

So you find blame for the lack of a solution on the "West". All I can see is the lack of a solution itself. That is not deflection, merely keeping a sense of priorities in the right order.

It is far more important to do what needs to be done to stop the carnage as soon as possible, and the rest can follow. Arguing about who set fire to a home does nothing to put out the fire until the whole house burns down.

Once again, when Israel is held accountable for their actions a resolution will be made. The failure to hold them accountable for their crimes now and before October 7 has and will always be the issue.

 

[MS Sandhu]

No one cares about the version of Islam that's prevalent in Indonesia.

You guys are the weakest form of Muslims across the entire Muslim world despite making a sizeable portion of it.

I would rather have 10 Hamas guy in the world than have 100 weak Muslims who can't do anything.

What has Indonesia done for Palestinians except for making speeches??

What they can actually do?
Israel will nuke them lol
Why do you think Iranians use Yemenis to fire their Missiles on Israel?
Ponder over this and you will get the answer.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

You know warfare in the city will cause high fatalities on civilian? so you expect Israel didn't proceed with war just because Hamas is hiding behind civilian and under hospitals?

All the destruction is consequence of war, the war that you desire, and although the 70% building and infrastructure destructed but the fatalities is 30 thousands or about 1.5% of Gaza population.

Your definition of colonialization is according to your ideology and preference, not inline with humanity.

Although I don't agree with this warfare, but I don't sympathy to those who desire this war and I couldn't negate Israel right for retaliation against Hamas.

Who are YOU?
Why do we need YOUR sympathy or emotion?

Keep it to yourself, Do what YOU MUST!!!
YOU UNDERSTAND STRENGTH ALONE!

Now tell us why nakba was necessary?
One that precipitated this cascading effect.

Stop with that grandstanding, holier-than-thou affectation... and become what you are, a humble... walking, talking and thinking cadaver!

 

[VCheng]

Once again, when Israel is held accountable for their actions a resolution will be made. The failure to hold them accountable for their crimes now and before October 7 has and will always be the issue.

So be it then. The accountability is more important than stopping the carnage in your view, it appears to me.

 

[Unknowntruth]

So be it then. The accountability is more important than stopping the carnage in your view, it appears to me.

I don’t think you understand what I’m telling you. It is by holding them accountable that you stop the carnage. This is why Israel has been freely committing their crimes. If you protect and defend all their crimes, why would they stop what they are doing ? Let’s not make it harder than it is.

 

[VCheng]

I don’t think you understand what I’m telling you. It is by holding them accountable that you stop the carnage. This is why Israel has been freely committing their crimes. If you protect and defend all their crimes, why would they stop what they are doing ? Let’s not make it harder than it is.

I am not protecting or defending anyone here, let us be clear. If you feel that the way to stop the carnage is to hold Israel accountable, then I must respect your right to hold such a view. Please go right ahead.

 

[Unknowntruth]

I am not protecting or defending anyone here, let us be clear. If you feel that the way to stop the carnage is to hold Israel accountable, then I must respect your right to hold such a view. Please go right ahead.

if you want to keep deflecting the West protecting and defending Israel’s occupation, illegal settlement building, oppression, etc contributing to Israel’s emboldenment to commit their crimes that is a you problem. Please go ahead.