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It's Official: New Party "Awam Pakistan" has been launched

PakAl

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How can we be sure they have not been "launched". Awaam won't go behind truck ki batti anymore

We simply don't know, they may even be mossad agents but we should give them a chance and need to trust ourselves to see right through them. I personally support a new political party which doesn't want to be involved in personal attacks, toxicity but instead wants to talk about policies. At the moment it's all about Imran Khan, Maryum Nawaz, Nawaz, Zardari but noone talks about the millions of children out of schools, people target NS and maryum as being corrupt but noone talks about why corruption is being practised at airports by normal workers and so on.
 

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Published July 18, 2019

Former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi was arrested by a 12-member National Accountability Bureau (NAB) team on Thursday in a multi-billion-rupee case related to the award of a liquefied natural gas (LNG) import contract.

NAB Chairman Javed Iqbal the same day also signed the arrest warrants of another PML-N leader, Miftah Ismail, as well as former managing director of Pakistan State Oil Sheikh Imranul Haque.

According to DawnNewsTV, Abbasi was on his way to attend a press conference, accompanied by PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal and spokesperson Marriyum Aurangzeb, when he was arrested on the Thokar Niaz Baig interchange.

Abbasi initially resisted the arrest but eventually conceded. He was shifted to NAB office in Lahore after a medical check-up. He is currently being taken to NAB Rawalpindi.

Ismail is also being probed in connection with the LNG import case. After Abbasi's arrest, teams in Karachi and Islamabad were dispatched to take the former finance minister into custody.

By evening, a NAB team had secured warrants to enter Ismail's house in Karachi for a search and arrest operation. However, it eventually returned empty-handed as Ismail was not at home.

[...]

LNG case​

The inquiry against Abbasi is being conducted directly under the supervision of NAB chairman.

On Jan 2, the NAB Executive Board had authorised two investigations against Abbasi, being former minister for petroleum and natural resources — one for his alleged involvement in irregularities in LNG import and the other related to the appointment of Naeemuddin Khan as president of the Bank of Punjab.

The former prime minister had said several times in the recent past that he had not committed any illegality in the award of contracts for LNG import and, therefore, he could prove his innocence at any forum.

He was of the view that the import of LNG was the need of the hour in 2013 when the country was facing an acute shortage of gas.

In the case, not only Abbasi but former prime minister Nawaz Sharif was also accused of misusing authority by awarding the contract of LNG terminal to 15 companies of their choice.

It is the first NAB case against Abbasi, who had served as prime minister for almost a year after the disqualification of Nawaz Sharif by the Supreme Court on July 28, 2017.

Interestingly, during the previous PML-N government, the Karachi NAB in its regional board meeting had closed the inquiry against Khaqan Abbasi in December 2016. But the PTI opposed the decision and claimed that “the inquiry was stopped despite the fact that it had been proved that the contract had been awarded in a non-transparent manner”.

The then Karachi NAB director general had remarked in a meeting: “After exhaustive discussion it has been decided that it is an ongoing project and any intervention by NAB at this juncture will jeopardise the efforts of provision of LNG from the project of public/national importance. It is, therefore, decided [to close the] inquiry [at] our end.”

However, the NAB inquiry had revealed that the management of Inter State Gas Systems (ISGS) and Sui Southern Gas Company Limited (SSGCL) selected M/s Engro as a successful bidder for LNG terminal at Karachi Port in a non-transparent manner.

The NAB inquiry found that the SSGCL signed a 15-year contract with a subsidiary company of Engro for re-gasification of LNG at fixed daily processing charges.

The government authorised the Pakistan State Oil to procure LNG on behalf of the SSGCL.

At the time of closure of the inquiry, incumbent Finance Minster Asad Umar had said: “NAB closed down inquiry against Khaqan Abbasi, though it was confirmed that irregularities had been committed in the award of the LNG contract.”

However, NAB reopened the inquiry against Abbasi in October 2018.

In February, Abbasi appeared before NAB and recorded his statement.

In April, the government imposed a travel ban on Abbasi, former finance minister Miftah Ismail, and five other persons in the same case.
 
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We simply don't know, they may even be mossad agents but we should give them a chance and need to trust ourselves to see right through them. I personally support a new political party which doesn't want to be involved in personal attacks, toxicity but instead wants to talk about policies. At the moment it's all about Imran Khan, Maryum Nawaz, Nawaz, Zardari but noone talks about the millions of children out of schools, people target NS and maryum as being corrupt but noone talks about why corruption is being practised at airports by normal workers and so on.
True. Corruption happens in most countries but it is dealt strictly by their law and order. Unfortunately our judicial system is compromised. Fix the judiciary, you can fix everything. But now we are at the point of no return, so any hope/efforts are arguably in vain.
 

PakAl

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True. Corruption happens in most countries but it is dealt strictly by their law and order. Unfortunately our judicial system is compromised. Fix the judiciary, you can fix everything. But now we are at the point of no return, so any hope/efforts are arguably in vain.

Too many problems to fix, the judges are paid millions to turn decisions in to the favour of the guilty, believe me it happens, how can we fix when people in power sell their souls for money. we need to fix political parties, police. Judiciary, devolve the power and the list continues.

@FuturePAF mentioned about a new left leaning political party Awaam Pakistan, which is technocrats party, it sounds good to have a new party with the best brains but what are the chances of its success without electables and famous people being part of it. Awaam Pakistan needs to encourage Ch Nisaar to join. No lotas please.
 

PakAl

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Another party talking about change in the system but then propaganda is done that establishment will not allow it, similarly how PTI talked about change, action against corruption but when in power faced resistance from hidden forces.

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Published July 18, 2019

Former prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi was arrested by a 12-member National Accountability Bureau (NAB) team on Thursday in a multi-billion-rupee case related to the award of a liquefied natural gas (LNG) import contract.

NAB Chairman Javed Iqbal the same day also signed the arrest warrants of another PML-N leader, Miftah Ismail, as well as former managing director of Pakistan State Oil Sheikh Imranul Haque.

According to DawnNewsTV, Abbasi was on his way to attend a press conference, accompanied by PML-N leader Ahsan Iqbal and spokesperson Marriyum Aurangzeb, when he was arrested on the Thokar Niaz Baig interchange.

Abbasi initially resisted the arrest but eventually conceded. He was shifted to NAB office in Lahore after a medical check-up. He is currently being taken to NAB Rawalpindi.

Ismail is also being probed in connection with the LNG import case. After Abbasi's arrest, teams in Karachi and Islamabad were dispatched to take the former finance minister into custody.

By evening, a NAB team had secured warrants to enter Ismail's house in Karachi for a search and arrest operation. However, it eventually returned empty-handed as Ismail was not at home.

[...]

LNG case​

The inquiry against Abbasi is being conducted directly under the supervision of NAB chairman.

On Jan 2, the NAB Executive Board had authorised two investigations against Abbasi, being former minister for petroleum and natural resources — one for his alleged involvement in irregularities in LNG import and the other related to the appointment of Naeemuddin Khan as president of the Bank of Punjab.

The former prime minister had said several times in the recent past that he had not committed any illegality in the award of contracts for LNG import and, therefore, he could prove his innocence at any forum.

He was of the view that the import of LNG was the need of the hour in 2013 when the country was facing an acute shortage of gas.

In the case, not only Abbasi but former prime minister Nawaz Sharif was also accused of misusing authority by awarding the contract of LNG terminal to 15 companies of their choice.

It is the first NAB case against Abbasi, who had served as prime minister for almost a year after the disqualification of Nawaz Sharif by the Supreme Court on July 28, 2017.

Interestingly, during the previous PML-N government, the Karachi NAB in its regional board meeting had closed the inquiry against Khaqan Abbasi in December 2016. But the PTI opposed the decision and claimed that “the inquiry was stopped despite the fact that it had been proved that the contract had been awarded in a non-transparent manner”.

The then Karachi NAB director general had remarked in a meeting: “After exhaustive discussion it has been decided that it is an ongoing project and any intervention by NAB at this juncture will jeopardise the efforts of provision of LNG from the project of public/national importance. It is, therefore, decided [to close the] inquiry [at] our end.”

However, the NAB inquiry had revealed that the management of Inter State Gas Systems (ISGS) and Sui Southern Gas Company Limited (SSGCL) selected M/s Engro as a successful bidder for LNG terminal at Karachi Port in a non-transparent manner.

The NAB inquiry found that the SSGCL signed a 15-year contract with a subsidiary company of Engro for re-gasification of LNG at fixed daily processing charges.

The government authorised the Pakistan State Oil to procure LNG on behalf of the SSGCL.

At the time of closure of the inquiry, incumbent Finance Minster Asad Umar had said: “NAB closed down inquiry against Khaqan Abbasi, though it was confirmed that irregularities had been committed in the award of the LNG contract.”

However, NAB reopened the inquiry against Abbasi in October 2018.

In February, Abbasi appeared before NAB and recorded his statement.

In April, the government imposed a travel ban on Abbasi, former finance minister Miftah Ismail, and five other persons in the same case.
When they step out of line, demand real reforms, the system will bring up old cases to reign them.

It really comes down to if the elite in the system are ready to allow change; allow the hard work to be a prosperous country and be judged on its merits or be a failed state and use that to gain sympathy from the world as the only ones holding an “ungovernable” country together (no mention of their part in making it ungovernable).
 

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When they step out of line, demand real reforms, the system will bring up old cases to reign them.

It really comes down to if the elite in the system are ready to allow change; allow the hard work to be a prosperous country and be judged on its merits or be a failed state and use that to gain sympathy from the world as the only ones holding an “ungovernable” country together (no mention of their part in making it ungovernable).


LOL, are you saying these two crooks are 'victims' of the system?

If these corrupt dinosaurs are the best that Pakistanis can put up as leaders, then they shouldn't complain when nature takes its course.
 

PakAl

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LOL, are you saying these two crooks are 'victims' of the system?

If these corrupt dinosaurs are the best that Pakistanis can put up as leaders, then they shouldn't complain when nature takes its course.

Who else is there? PTI has IK, most of pti mnas left the party and formed pti p and ipp. I am hopefully Awaam Pakistan Party will allow young people in to the party and give them a chance, not the same old corrupt electables.
 

PakAl

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When they step out of line, demand real reforms, the system will bring up old cases to reign them.

It really comes down to if the elite in the system are ready to allow change; allow the hard work to be a prosperous country and be judged on its merits or be a failed state and use that to gain sympathy from the world as the only ones holding an “ungovernable” country together (no mention of their part in making it ungovernable).

It seems like some elite want reforms and some don't. It's like Pakistan keeps on changing it's mind lol
 

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Who else is there? PTI has IK, most of pti mnas left the party and formed pti p and ipp. I am hopefully Awaam Pakistan Party will allow young people in to the party and give them a chance, not the same old corrupt electables.

It is a sad state of affairs where the same old dinosaurs change shirts and play musical chairs under the watchful eye of the khakis.

That is why I am not very hopeful for any change.
 

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