JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[hasssanali8998]

J10s dozens of pics with 4pl15bso nice try ..not a good excuse. Tons of pics of f16s with 4 amraams. I am getting seriously doubtful of this capability is real

 

[gamaji]

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[Michael]

Not reuters anymore ......

This morning, the Chinese media outlet "参考消息(Reference News)" reported this news, citing Reuters.
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据英媒1月7日报道，巴基斯坦和沙特正就将沙特提供的美元贷款转化为采购JF-17“雷电”战斗机（即“枭龙”战斗机）的协议进行谈判。报道称，这笔交易总额为40亿美元，扣除贷款折算后另有20亿美元用于购买设备。

Google Translate:
According to British media reports on January 7, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are negotiating an agreement to convert a US dollar loan provided by Saudi Arabia into a purchase of JF-17 "Thunder" fighter jets. The report states that the total value of the deal is $4 billion, with an additional $2 billion allocated for equipment purchases after the loan conversion.

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"参考消息(Reference News)" is not an ordinary Chinese media outlet.

This effectively implies that China, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan are indeed engaged in in-depth discussions on this issue, and the prospects are optimistic.
However, their use of "quotations" rather than direct statements indicates that the matter has not yet been fully finalized.

 

[Yasser76]

J10s have dozens of pics with 4 PL15s with the plane flying so nice try ..not a good excuse. Tons of pics of f16s in the air with 4 amraams. I am getting seriously doubtful of this capability either jf17 is real

Not seen a Pakistani missile with a nuclear warhead, I am doubting this capability exists

 

[Yasser76]

Not reuters anymore - I went through their linkedin recently and a lot of content writing and research is Indian hires.

Sorry, reputable media companies do not work like that. There are many people who have to sign off and articles and many sources that get verfied. A few Indians working there would risk their jobs for what? Granted there may be some bias in the way some things are reported or left out, but anyone who has any idea of media companies can tell you Reuters is very solid

 

[Corax]

J10s have dozens of pics with 4 PL15s with the plane flying so nice try ..not a good excuse. Tons of pics of f16s in the air with 4 amraams. I am getting seriously doubtful of this capability either jf17 is real

There were no pics of Mirages with the Raptor series for decades, only after operation Swift Retort did we see the first real images. I'll ring air headquarters and tell them to immediately release images because 'airhead' wants to see pics of the JF17 flying with dual rack PL15s.

 

[Psyko70]

Guys why does it matter if it carries 2 or 4 ? PL15 is formidable missile and will make jf17 get kill with high probability.

 

[Khanivore]

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[Khanivore]

Here we go. Definitely much needed good news - if true.

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[Psyko70]

Here we go. Definitely much needed good news - if true.

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so 25 jf17 per year to at least 40 per year and best case 50 per year if finances are there ? just rough estimate. if there are orders.

 

[Corax]

That's a lot of orders assuming the Bangladesh, Saudi, and Libyan deals are real.

 

[Corax]

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Ra'ad and H4 as part of the package with the JF17s? I think that's a bit of a stretch.

 

[Toxic]

so 25 jf17 per year to at least 40 per year and best case 50 per year if finances are there ? just rough estimate. if there are orders.

Actually PAC has more then enough capacity currently, even if all the potential deals were to materialize they would still only keep the production line busy for 3-4 years which is the standard delivery timeline for Aircraft.

 

[Samurai]

That's a lot of orders assuming the Bangladesh, Saudi, and Libyan deals are real.

We are also not factoring in the Azeri order and how many have been completed and delivered.

 

[airhead]

J10s have dozens of pics with 4 PL15s with the plane flying so nice try ..not a good excuse. Tons of pics of f16s in the air with 4 amraams. I am getting seriously doubtful of this capability either jf17 is real

Well unless

There were no pics of Mirages with the Raptor series for decades, only after operation Swift Retort did we see the first real images. I'll ring air headquarters and tell them to immediately release images because 'airhead' wants to see pics of the JF17 flying with dual rack PL15s.

that is a rare sortie dude..you don’t have these missiles for everyday AD missions . Pl15 is a standard AD config..so by now a pic must have occurred ..can’t compare a AG mssile vs a standard AA configuration . Then how do you explain tons of j10 pics airborne with pl15? Tons of pics with f16s airborne with 4x amraams …but none with jf17…not a single picture …not one but tons of pics of jf17 in the ground …just one pic but you can’t find one