JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

ArmTwister said:
Why? U want to buy it? 🤔🤔
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no cant afford to but need to work harder

Just curious to see how real this is or is it just for marketing? i have not seen 1 photo of JF flying with 4 PL15s but have seen tons of pics of J10s with the same config.
 
safriz said:
Ok, but China is also a partner in the JF-17. will they agree on such a deal? here no actual money is coming in , instead existing loan on Pakistan not China is being paid off as JF-17
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I don't think China will have any issues with JF-17 deals. In fact they might see such deals as a start of China's defence products footprint in ME. After all JF-17 is co-produced by China and Pakistan selling it is going to be an extension of China's defence industry. So these negotiations wouldn't even have happened without the Chinese nod.
 
Samurai said:
I don't think China will have any issues with JF-17 deals. In fact they might see such deals as a start of China's defence products footprint in ME. After all JF-17 is co-produced by China and Pakistan selling it is going to be an extension of China's defence industry. So these negotiations wouldn't even have happened without the Chinese nod.
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For sure, China will be loving this. You get a country using JF-17s and is satisfied with them, then the upsell to J-10/J-35 becomes so much easier. Also of course many of the weapons systems used will result in orders to Chinese companies. 7th of May was almost as good for them as it was for PAF.....
 
Yasser76 said:
For sure, China will be loving this. You get a country using JF-17s and is satisfied with them, then the upsell to J-10/J-35 becomes so much easier. Also of course many of the weapons systems used will result in orders to Chinese companies. 7th of May was almost as good for them as it was for PAF.....
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Exactly, wo humaray Cheeni bhai aik thread may lighter bechnay ki misaal de rahay thay. To ye jab lighter bana kay bech kar itna khush hotay hain, jo JF-17 pay to khush hongay zaroor.
 
Ak01 said:
I dont think its real, neither the Libya stuff, too much doesnt make sense. The PAF itself builds its JF-17s with loans from China, so how it intends to roll over a saudi loan into JF-17s makes no sense... unless we take a loan out to pay for them from the chinese...
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ghazi52 said:
a combat radius of 1,450 km, and a ferry range of 2,500 km,
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question from experts here.. if i am not wrong

"Ferry range is the maximum distance an aircraft can fly with maximum fuel, often with extra tanks, for transport (one-way), while combat radius (or radius of action) is the distance it can go from base, perform a mission (with weapons/payload), and return with reserves"

My question is then the ferry range should be atleast double of the combat range? but thats not the case on every fighter i have knowledge..why?
 
Ak01 said:
The PAF itself builds its JF-17s with loans from China, so how it intends to roll over a saudi loan into JF-17s makes no sense... unless we take a loan out to pay for them from the chinese...
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Hypothetically speaking, it could work as a debt restructuring + debt reduction program. The Pakistani profit margin will be written off towards the debt. At least part of the costs that we are already incurring for keeping the production line active can also be counted towards the debt. That and the other local production costs can then be turned into internal debt, which will also allow us to retain these dollars within the Pakistani economy when the debt is paid, a la US foreign aid programs. The Chinese share will be taken on as external debt which will be measurably less than what is currently owed. Could also save us interest on the Saudi debt starting from the contract signing, depending on how the payment is structured.

Someone in finance will do better.

side-winder said:
Btw why no senior Air Staff officer with CAS? Usually two stars and three stars accompany CAS on such foreign tours. 🤔

@AeronautIR

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He's the one taking the picture.
 
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According to her, it was Pakistan who asked the USA to arrange a ceasefire 60 times .. go figure. Delusion is high with this one.
 
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Ye apny mohallay ki wo aunty hay jo gali may guzartay huye har insaan pay nazar rakhti hay, apny parosi say jalti hay aur uski buraian karti rehti hay. Iskay bolnay ka andaaz tanzia aur wohi saas bahu aur phuppo mentality wali vibes ati hain. Samagh nai ata how can her style of reporting be considered journalism when all she does is take jibes at others.
 
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Ali_Baba said:
The people who designed the JF17 are the same people(clowns) who thought that external hinges were an appropriate design choice for the canopy mechanism on the two seater JF17B for something designed in the lasts few years(!!!!!) .. go figure.

btw - "Fat Amy" ie F35 has the same issue and that works very well too.
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Come on bro, a fighter plane is not a beauty queen. It's a deadly machine. I don't know why those external hinges were used JF-17B models. Yes, they look ugly but do they cause any negative effect on Thunder's performance? I don't think so. When racing against time, allowing minor compromises is not always a bad thing at all especially if those compromises get you bigger advantages. Just my 2 cents.
 
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