JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

[Cipher212]

no it isnt, it literally is not

So the old pulse doppler radar on them and AIM-120D beats an AESA equipped JF having the PL-15?

 

[Ak01]

So the old pulse doppler radar on them and AIM-120D beats an AESA equipped JF having the PL-15?

why change goalposts?

Virtually all export F15s have aesa's

 

[Psyko70]

why change goalposts?

Virtually all export F15s have aesa's

Hello sir,

I asked you something but i guess you dont want to answer. I respect your freedom.

But,

Aesa ? India has aesa fighters too. Having aesa does not equate to superior tech. Jf17 block 3 has gan aesa.

 

[Ak01]

Hello sir,

I asked you something but i guess you dont want to answer. I respect your freedom.

But,

Aesa ? India has aesa fighters too. Having aesa does not equate to superior tech. Jf17 block 3 has gan aesa.

ill answer in a little bit, sometimes i like to answer in alot of detail, when on topics im interested in. Just a bit tired at the moment. But i will later.

 

[Corax]

I guess the Reuters reporters are only reporting what they've been told by their sources, and it'll be their careers down the drain if they report bs. So if it is all bs, it's coming from Pak sources. High probability it may well be mostly hot air, but then again where there's smoke there's fire. Let's see. Sidhu is like the Pak Santa Clause handing out JF17s like candies as he globe trots all over the place.

 

[Yasser76]

Indonesia now? Thats third consecutive day of high level meetings held by CAS.

Now we don't know which stage the talks are currently at with respect to each potential buyer. However, regardless of that, it deserves a thumbs up to the PAF leadership.

Bangladesh, KSA, Sudan, Iraq, Indonesia - now we can’t expect all these deals to materialize, ofcourse. However, even if one of these countries actually ends up signing the final agreement. It's a job well done.

Only thing I can think of is that the ass pounding we gave to India was so bad, and we shared the non public details and now everyone wants in on the action....

 

[Yasser76]

I guess the Reuters reporters are only reporting what they've been told by their sources, and it'll be their careers down the drain if they report bs. So if it is all bs, it's coming from Pak sources. High probability it may well be mostly hot air, but then again where there's smoke there's fire. Let's see. Sidhu is like the Pak Santa Clause handing out JF17s like candies as he globe trots all over the place.

Yeah, any report will pass through several layers of editorial checks for sure.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

Only thing I can think of is that the ass pounding we gave to India was so bad, and we shared the non public details and now everyone wants in on the action....

I think its the weapon package on JF17B3, which is attracting all these nations incase if these news are correct

 

[Yasser76]

I think its the weapon package on JF17B3, which is attracting all these nations incase if these news are correct

Even if just two of these new clients confirm, we will need to ramp us massively, and unsure if Russia can keep up with engine supply.

 

[falcon34]

they're all non credible, its funny, the only real deal that exists was iraq yet they did not bother reporting on that. Only news theyre pulling out of their backside

Nah, ur being a pessimist, Jeff gives top notch capabilities at the fraction of the cost, data links, secure communications, ew suite and long range BVR missiles. That's what these countries want. If not all at least a 2 will go through.

 

[Malik]

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[Psyko70]

ill answer in a little bit, sometimes i like to answer in alot of detail, when on topics im interested in. Just a bit tired at the moment. But i will later.

Hello sir,

Thanks. I am happy to have Knowledge from fellow members. However, I have studied good that jf17 block 3 has cards against f15 sa and good ones.

F15sa having powerful radar is not enough. Nor rate of climb or range. As engagement happens in bvr. With support of awacs it will even make jf17 with awacs and f15 with awacs a very tense engagement for both.

Im not saying f15 is bad but "literally not" is extreme remark.

 

[Cipher212]

why change goalposts?

Virtually all export F15s have aesa's

Not changing goalpost I meant the Saudi F-15 from the start. I thought they were old Cs and Ds

 

[side-winder]

I guess the Reuters reporters are only reporting what they've been told by their sources, and it'll be their careers down the drain if they report bs. So if it is all bs, it's coming from Pak sources. High probability it may well be mostly hot air, but then again where there's smoke there's fire. Let's see. Sidhu is like the Pak Santa Clause handing out JF17s like candies as he globe trots all over the place.

Yes. It's all about the sources. And not something wrong with the editors. The sources which Reuters refer to are :-

1. AM (R) Aamir Masood
2. AM (R) Asim Suleman
3. Three / Four "un-named" sources with knowledge of the meetings.

Now a good approach is simply to tally these stories with official press releases.

1. Bangladesh - confirmed by official press video.
2. Iraq - confirmed by official press video.
3. KSA - no specific highlight in video about any equipment
4. Sudan - it's actually an old story from last year. It is quite possible that talks are in progress.
5. Indonesia - so far no official press video from DG PR (AF) side regarding today's meeting between Indonesian defence minister and CAS. Let's see if there is a mention in it.

Nevertheless, like i said. Talks take years to materialize. And not all of these are going to materialize. However, even if one of the deals is finalized. It's still a job well done.

 

[Psyko70]

Nah, ur being a pessimist, Jeff gives top notch capabilities at the fraction of the cost, data links, secure communications, ew suite and long range BVR missiles. That's what these countries want. If not all at least a 2 will go through.

True. If they dont buy or any of these countries it will be loss for them as no country right now can give such trust worthy low maintenance fighter.