JF-17 - Updates, News & Discussion

Nice pictures, a first to see it in the air with 4 Pl-15s. But the last one is AI. Even the 2nd one maybe AI.
 
Yup confirmed now. The one on the calendar is legit. Has the right Pl-15 pylons and winglet sweep.

Viper Vector picture is fake, incorrect pylon, poor Pl-15 winglet sweep generation, mostly inconsistent.

The elephant walk one should be obvious to most that its fake.
 
Sorry for the off topic post. Does anyone here remember @araz from old PDF? Is he alive?
 
Ibbi32 said:
Jf-17 makes no sense for ksa. Its a small cheap lightweight fighter for the biggest and richest arab kingdom. The only way jf-17 makes sense for ksa is if they want to diversify away from americans like they did with their tornadoes.
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Focusing on just Thunder's price and how KSA can afford much expensive goodies show only a partial picture. The freedom, control, flexibility, and capability that Thunders bring for Saudis is the other part of the picture. What's the point to buy an ultra-advanced but extremely expensive fighter jet if they cannot use it for defending their country?
 
gamaji said:
Focusing on just Thunder's price and how KSA can afford much expensive goodies show only a partial picture. The freedom, control, flexibility, and capability that Thunders bring for Saudis is the other part of the picture. What's the point to buy an ultra-advanced but extremely expensive fighter jet if they cannot use it for defending their country?
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Saudi Arabia needs to invest in a expeditionary force by Pakistan that can be used to supplement its own armed forces if required, a self contained force that consists of AD/IADS, AEW&C and fast jets like JF17Cs and J10CE's that can move to Saudi Arabia at a moments notice.

PAF right now, cannot afford to send over a single JF17 squadron as the PAF is sized for the absolute bare minimum to counter the IAF. There is no spare capacity that Saudi Arabia can drawn on for that reason without compromising Pakistan defences against India.

The current defense treaty has no teeth other than a nuclear shield for Saudi Arabia for which Pakistan has capacity.

Hopefully this conflict has been an eye opener, in addition to the now India/Israel nexus which will also affect Saudi Arabia directly now.
 
Ak01 said:
nothing in class available from the russians, so i guess makes sense.

Bet the russians arent too keen on this though. Oh well, should have done better i guess.
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I believe CM400s did their job fine. Indians couldn't intercept them. It struck its target locations as admitted by the IAF chief himself or perhaps S400 was too good (and too busy) with hide and seek, as they claim - lol
 
Ali_Baba said:
Saudi Arabia needs to invest in a expeditionary force by Pakistan that can be used to supplement its own armed forces if required, a self contained force that consists of AD/IADS, AEW&C and fast jets like JF17Cs and J10CE's that can move to Saudi Arabia at a moments notice.

PAF right now, cannot afford to send over a single JF17 squadron as the PAF is sized for the absolute bare minimum to counter the IAF. There is no spare capacity that Saudi Arabia can drawn on for that reason without compromising Pakistan defences against India.

The current defense treaty has no teeth other than a nuclear shield for Saudi Arabia for which Pakistan has capacity.

Hopefully this conflict has been an eye opener, in addition to the now India/Israel nexus which will also affect Saudi Arabia directly now.
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I was saying this for months. I wasnt wrong entirely. I was right abt jf17 and ksa.
 
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