Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Eşbah]

True,
Arab-İstan, land of Arabs.

Yunan-istan, Yunan comes from Ionians, land of Yunan-Ionian

Pak, means pure/clean. So, Pak-İstan, Land of pure.

Do you think the next government and/or President is going to be AKP-led/Erdoğan? How would a potential leadership under Özel treat this organization?
I remain highly sceptical.

 

[GoatsMilk]

I don’t disagree - but I responded to that user and others like him on this thread - Sunni chauvinists who seem to be erupting in bloodlust bragging this pact will confront Iran implying Shias.

The only people i've seen painting this alliance as against iran are the iranians and the iranian aligned shia sectarians. That same sectarian head which the iranians exported into iraq and syria that targeted the Sunni Muslims while every step of the way playing the victim.

Remember Turkiye's a majority sunni nation closest ally is Shia Azerbaijan. There are literally tens of millions of Shia Turks in Iran who Sunni Turks consider their brothers. Turks do not see their enemy based on religious difference. The same cannot be said for the Iranian aligned groups. They are entirely sectarian to the core.

Remember Sunni Turkiye already had a defence alliance with Shia Azerbaijan. When the christian armenians started their war against the Shia Azerbaijanis, the Sunni Turks supported the Muslims, while our Iranian friends supported the christian armenians.

religion is just a tool for iran, no more and no less. If it suits their imperial ambitions their muslims, if it doesnt well they will kill muslims.

Even that fat dope "daniel" who could even be a cypto jew had to concede that iranian behaviour in syria was disgusting, because if he didnt the Muslims would see him for the total fraud he is.

 

[Pakistan First]

Sunni chauvinists keep discrediting the Palestinian freedom movement by claiming Iran was behind their decision to take a stand.

which isn’t far-fetch given how cowardly and treacherous Wahhabi and Sunni Arabs have been throughout their history.

OMG! Stop with your Sectarian Bullshit. How much a person can be filled with hatred is reflected in your every post. You are dying with your islam hatred and unable to digest why in the presence of US, the three muslim heavy weights have formed a pact. Your hatred against Arabs is disgustful. Saying "throughout their history" and crap like that just because you have different sectarian alignment. Our dear Prophet and his entire family were arabs. Same arabs defeated two Super powers of the time the Roman empire and the Persian empire.

I have never used a single word of Sunni anywhere. I ALWAYS use word muslim, I never try to differentiate. But Its YOU and few pathetics like you and specifically Israelis who use these words specifically calling it "Sunni axis". Also ironically only Israelis, indians and few sectarian retards like you have problem with this defense pact. The common thing in all of them is hatred for islamic world. Iran never did a thing for Palestine. Throughout entire genocide, Iran never fired a single shot at Israel. Its only when Israel did a massive unprovoked attack and humiliated Iran by decimating its leadership, killing scientists, destroying Iran's nuclear facilities only then Iran responded. It was NEVER for Gaza. Don't get me wrong, I supported Iran throughout the war and still support it and want it to survive and thrive. But Iran's war was not for Gaza.
This pact will help Iran in many ways. If KSA, Turkey, Paksitan wanted to make it against Iran then we would have attacked it when for 2 months US was pounding it. Lindsey Graham and american admin was begging KSA to join the war. It makes zero sense that we are waiting for the US to leave and only then we will use the pact against Iran ? It we were so puppets of US then it made perfect sense for us to win respect in eyes of Trump. We gave a dime about US by forming this pact. Top Pakistani leaders went to Supreme leader funeral, do you think Trump loved it watching "favorite field marshal" going to SL funeral and hugging Iranians ? We tried our best to end war by mediating too. I have gone tired explaining in layman terms that we and this pact is not anti Iran but insecure sectarian retards are so full of hatred. FFS, get out of your sectarian BS. Stop dividing yourselves in Sunnis and Shias.

whatever ill trained Pakistani units you sent as security guards for the saud family.

For how long this utter disrespect for Pakistan and bizarre sectarian hatred will be allowed in the forum @RescueRanger @Musings

 

[PakistanLVR]

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OMG! Stop with your Sectarian Bullshit. How much a person can be filled with hatred is reflected in your every post. You are dying with your islam hatred and unable to digest why in the presence of US, the three muslim heavy weights have formed a pact. Your hatred against Arabs is disgustful. Saying "throughout their history" and crap like that just because you have different sectarian alignment. Our dear Prophet and his entire family were arabs. Same arabs defeated two Super powers of the time the Roman empire and the Persian empire.

I have never used a single word of Sunni anywhere. I ALWAYS use word muslim, I never try to differentiate. But Its YOU and few pathetics like you and specifically Israelis who use these words specifically calling it "Sunni axis". Also ironically only Israelis, indians and few sectarian retards like you have problem with this defense pact. The common thing in all of them is hatred for islamic world. Iran never did a thing for Palestine. Throughout entire genocide, Iran never fired a single shot at Israel. Its only when Israel did a massive unprovoked attack and humiliated Iran by decimating its leadership, killing scientists, destroying Iran's nuclear facilities only then Iran responded. It was NEVER for Gaza. Don't get me wrong, I supported Iran throughout the war and still support it and want it to survive and thrive. But Iran's war was not for Gaza.
This pact will help Iran in many ways. If KSA, Turkey, Paksitan wanted to make it against Iran then we would have attacked it when for 2 months US was pounding it. Lindsey Graham and american admin was begging KSA to join the war. It makes zero sense that we are waiting for the US to leave and only then we will use the pact against Iran ? It we were so puppets of US then it made perfect sense for us to win respect in eyes of Trump. We gave a dime about US by forming this pact. Top Pakistani leaders went to Supreme leader funeral, do you think Trump loved it watching "favorite field marshal" going to SL funeral and hugging Iranians ? We tried our best to end war by mediating too. I have gone tired explaining in layman terms that we and this pact is not anti Iran but insecure sectarian retards are so full of hatred. FFS, get out of your sectarian BS. Stop dividing yourselves in Sunnis and Shias.



For how long this utter disrespect for Pakistan and bizarre sectarian hatred will be allowed in the forum @RescueRanger @Musings

Calls me a secterian but posts anti-Shia Ai generated meme and calls the Shia fighters terrorists in his previous posts and lies that Iran suffered a strategic loss.

Typical cowardly behavior I guess. Passive aggressive behavior. Trust me - I’m far from a sectarian Mr “Elite” member

 

[Musings]

Discuss the topic with reapect guys - come
On

 

[Pakistan First]

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Calls me a secterian but posts anti-Shia Ai generated meme and calls the Shia fighters terrorists in his previous posts and lies that Iran suffered a strategic loss.

Typical cowardly behavior I guess. Passive aggressive behavior. Trust me - I’m far from a sectarian Mr “Elite” member

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What on earth you are smoking? That's not me. Check the names. Nobody should be allowed to talk on sectarian lines. You will stir this BS, so people will be provoked and start talking in same tone. You will attack Saudis, so they will attack Iran. This needs to end. Stop creating further divide.

Think of Pakistan as first. As my nickname suggests. Think beyond shia sunni. Pakistan has managed so beautifully the whole situation and this pact is the best thing ever happened for the region in our lifetimes.

From Pakistan's perspective, Arab world is very important and dear for us. Millions of Pakistanis work and earn their livelihood. Their families depend on that money + the remittances + financial help KSA has provided. No other country go to such lengths. We only have limited allies China, Saudi arabia and Turkey and that's about all. Don't create divisions based out of sectarianism. Iran is important neighbor that's why we tried our best to end this war by mediation. Your post after post is only a series of hatred without any bases. Every muslim regardless of sectarian division must be delighted on this pact. This is for the first time, region has done something bold. Israel and so its ally the US have severe problems with it. India has problems with it. Why you guys want to be part of Israelis and Indians ? Why you can't see the glass as half full ?? Atleast Try!

 

[Meengla]

muslim world has money resources and population. the only thing they need is cooperation so they can create thier own companies which can extract oil gas and other minerlas use it for themselves ans sell it to other nations instead of depending on european companies that are freating a monoply and exploit our weakness and use it.
In this matter Turkiye is leading while KSA ha smoney and we have huge population and we just need a fusion to show other countries that this model is successful

Right. And Pakistan also has a large English speaking population. Ask western tourists who go to Pakistan: They are able to find Pakistanis able to speak English even in smaller towns. It is an asset in today's world.

 

[lightning f57]

OFF TOPIC But the indian news channels and media outlets are going crazy talking about the Mekkah agreement. They keep saying it is "useless" as Turkiye and Saudi Arabia will not "physically" send troops to fight for Pakistan. What they are conveniently ignoring is the financial aid and access to advanced sciences and technologies the pact gives Pakistan in developing it's defence industries and military which will act as a MASSIVE deterent to any enemies who want to attack Pakistan.

Exactly. Pakistan doesn’t need muscle it has plenty, it needs funds and weaponary and greater intelligence to deal with RAW and Indian proxies.

 

[KingQamaR]

True - but here is where the law of unintended consequences that comes into play that I think we discount too much in all this.

Has it worked out for Israel as well as they had hoped?

The world now see's the real Israel, not the media controlled narrative. Their hold over the USA is coming to an end with the new generation in the USA. They will be convicted of genocide by the ICJ, and that will make them more persona non grata on the global stage than they are now.

Abraham accords are now dead. I could go on. So, yes, they knew and let it happen but I would argue that they have lost far more than they have gained in all this. It has been a strategic mistake for them, at a biblical scale.

The Palestinians have suffered massively for certain, but theirs is a fight for freedom and their journey has more heartache and sorrow until they get their freedom unfortunately.

What is Israel's future, now that the world has seen the real Israel ? With hindsight, would Israel have done all that it has again, knowing all that they now know?

This is so well put.
All of it.
Thank you man