Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[maxpane]

I think we should keep a distance from Syria for now.

its happening now we like it or not .

 

[Starlord]

Keep all these numpties out. Just keep it to 3 for quite some time until some stability and viability of this pact is actually made tangible.

But it's not like they care what you or I say.

I think that's what will happen, let these 3 countries create a framework on how this alliance will work, first we have to see some changes in ground, some joint ventures, major exercises, asset deployments, then feel free to reach out to others (Egypt/Qatar/Kuwait).
I don't think this FM's meeting is about inviting Syria into a alliance, its too early for that and Syria is indefensable at this moment, even Turkiye will struggle to stop attacks from IDF/IAF on Syrian military bases. Syria need 5-10 years of absolute peace and prosparity in order to develop its economy and strength its defence enough to do anything.

 

[Starlord]

its happening now we like it or not .

The meeting? Yes, but it won't be anything significant, and like I said we should not hasten things with Syria, as the situation there is still very uncertain and fragile.

 

[brazensword]

Israel attacks a base with Turks on it. What's gonna happen now, crickets? Litmus test failed I guess.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

They added Egypt interesting, i think the Turkiye is eager to add Egypt given its location and standing among the GCC military, we have seen some military drills between Turkiye and Egypt, but lets see how that all comes together.

Nothing new. It doesn't exactly mean that expanding the pact will be the main subject being discussed.

Regional Four (R-4)	Date & Location	Meeting	Details
R-4 #1	18/19 March 2026 — Riyadh	First R-4 consultation	Foreign ministers of Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Türkiye and Egypt met for the first R-4 consultation.
R-4 #2	29 March 2026 — Islamabad	Second meeting	The second R-4 meeting was held in Islamabad. Pakistan's Foreign Office explicitly confirmed this sequence.
R-4 #3	18 April 2026 — Antalya	Third meeting	The third meeting took place on the sidelines of the Antalya Diplomacy Forum. Pakistan's Foreign Office later explicitly referred to it as the third R-4 meeting.
R-4 #4	21 June 2026 — Cairo	Fourth meeting	The fourth meeting of the R-4 foreign ministers was held in Cairo.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

... Saudi have given 10s of billions to Egypt to boost their military since Morsi got kicked out. How else can they afford all those new birds they are flying from half a dozen countries. ...

The US provides Egypt with around $1.3 billion annually in military financing.

That's year after year.

I think it only briefly stopped after President Muhammad Morsi was removed from power, when the US suspended some military assistance to Egypt amid the political crisis.

 

[Meengla]

The meeting? Yes, but it won't be anything significant, and like I said we should not hasten things with Syria, as the situation there is still very uncertain and fragile.

The Israeli recent attacks in Syria, which Pakistan has condemned, along with the Syrian diplomats coming to Pakistan are significant development. Turkey has its foothold in Syria--something which is really bugging the presume next PM of Israel Naftali Bennet. Syria doesn't have to join the tri-party alliance of KSA-Turkey-Pak yet but the visit is very important.

 

[RocketLaw]

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[Starlord]

The Israeli recent attacks in Syria, which Pakistan has condemned, along with the Syrian diplomats coming to Pakistan are significant development. Turkey has its foothold in Syria--something which is really bugging the presume next PM of Israel Naftali Bennet. Syria doesn't have to join the tri-party alliance of KSA-Turkey-Pak yet but the visit is very important.

Israel will have issues with Turkiye with or without Syria, but yes they are seeing Turkish military presence in Syria as "Threat". But Pakistan should be careful when dealing with Syria, the current leadership of Syria is walking on a crack glass, they are mostly ex-AQ. And if they breach whatever agreement they have with Israel it will be bad for them, Syrian deserve peace after a long devastating Civil war, and Pakistan needs to take every step carefully.

 

[SD 10]

Israel attacks a base with Turks on it. What's gonna happen now, crickets? Litmus test failed I guess.

No one can touch israel, and pakistan certainly cant!

 

[mulj]

Israel attacks a base with Turks on it. What's gonna happen now, crickets? Litmus test failed I guess.

nothing, you have to swallow the punches until you are ready to punch back. it is emotionally damaging but necessity if you want to gain something, in next few years when some new equipment and assets start fielding massively we will see different posture, right now there is no other option beside patience and slow build up while cleaning messy residues of past mistakes. this pact is first structured effort by muslims to step on global stage in independent manner as possible and by principle it should be supported but it would be delusional to expect some visible yielded results on field before structure mature by itself and produce qualitative frameworks and capabilities powerful enough to be reckon as force for itself on world stage.

 

[Yasser76]

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Anything that gives Zakaria that constipated look is good in my book