Joint Statement of the Beijing Meeting between China, Russia and Iran

[Ali_Baba]

why do you not want to help Iran?? Iran is at frontline fighting the fight for all of us, as long as you acknowledge that the US-Israel axis is the very embodiment of pure evil thus the common enemy of mankind!

I saw you guys shitting on gulf Arabs for being cucks all the time, but you end up behaving just like them

if "us" also means China, then why shouldnt China do a lot "more" then ???

 

[BananaRepublic]

Predictable and empty words.

Words won't stop American and Israeli bombs. What Iran needs is real support in terms of hardware and data in the face of such enemies.

Russia is playing Iran.

China is playing Russia.

Iran is just tagging along as they have no other options.

Russia is actively spreading hate against Muslims in the west via their white proxies in the west.

Iran knows that Russia is not their ally.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Does Pakistan need to be reminded that it can not root out the Baluchi insurgence without cooperations from the Iranian side?

Wow! Very candid advice from Chinese bro!

Is China working behind the scenes to unite Iran and Pakistan?

What’s blocking them?

 

[r3alist]

Russia is playing Iran.

China is playing Russia.

Iran is just tagging along as they have no other options.

Russia is actively spreading hate against Muslims in the west via their white proxies in the west.

Iran knows that Russia is not their ally.

Internally Russia is warm to Muslims, or Putin

Do you mean they are exploiting social tensions in the west

 

[BananaRepublic]

Internally Russia is warm to Muslims, or Putin

Do you mean they are exploiting social tensions in the west

 

[PakAl]

Sadly, I suspect the greater pressure against these sales is probably from GCC Arabs.

Yes this aswell, these nations are powerful behind the scenes.

 

[Tijani]

If Iran is entirely uninterested in nuclear capability then why start pursue nuclear enrichment at all? For peaceful use they could have stopped at 20% enrichment or just import their fuel.

By keeping their nuclear program they gave the west excuse to sanction Iran. So please explain Iran's rationale because I cannot understand it at all.

It seems to me Iran has two course of action: Either scrape their nuclear program in exchange for sanction relieve; Or get serious with their nuclear program and produce useful deterrence.

Yet they choose to do neither of these things keeping themselves sanctioned AND having nothing to show for it, why?

You have unfortunately misunderstood me. Please let me explain again.
Iran is NOT uninterested in nuclear capability. That why I initially argued against your viewpoint. Once any country masters the full nuclear fuel cycle then nuclear capability is basically implied knowledge. Without enrichment then there is no mastery of the full nuclear fuel cycle. The fuel in fuel cycle is because of enrichment.
Once basic enrichment is mastered then enriching to 90% is relatively easy. The difficult part is mastering 20% enrichment. There are also benefits in further enrichment because certain nuclear related elements can only be produced at higher enrichment levels. Too many benefits to list here. Google is your friend.
The zionist West is not sanctioning Iran because of it's nuclear program. This is a common fallacy. Iran is sanctioned due to its pursuit of independence and the county's nuclear program is a result of this strive for independence. If it wasn't the nuclear program it would be it's missiles or support for resistance movements around the world or something else deemed as a symptom of Iranian desire for independence, freedom and justice.
This leave only one viable course of action for Iran against the zionist West: a very costly resistance at all cost until victory. I hope I've managed to explain better this time.

 

[enroger]

This leave only one viable course of action for Iran against the zionist West: a very costly resistance at all cost until victory.

Which is why I think Iran should strive for weapon capability asap, what is the hold up then? They're almost at weapon grade concentration if not already.

Believe it or not I'm rooting for Iran here but it is frustrating to see them dragging it on and on over the years, all the nuclear negotiations for what? Do they want nukes or do they not want nukes? If they're getting sanctioned anyway then why not just do it like North Korea did, assemble weapons, get a detonation, demonstrate deterrence once and for all?

 

[ToddE]

Russia is playing Iran.

China is playing Russia.

Iran is just tagging along as they have no other options.

Russia is actively spreading hate against Muslims in the west via their white proxies in the west.

Iran knows that Russia is not their ally.

Some good points.

Russians know they are nothing without exports to EU (close to 100 Bln USD a year) so they will seek relationships with EU once Ukraine dust is settled by their Washington proxy Trump. Iran is a bargaining tool for them that they will use in talks with EU in future. Literal repeat of 2006-2009 when both Russia and China became "concerned" over Iranian nuclear program and even promoted sanctions on Iran. Ahamdinejad and his gang of corrupt puppets could not understand it. Anyways, American deep state is letting it happen so that they can use Trump to lure Russia out of the Chinese fold in longer term. If we on internet know that Trump became Trump on shoulders of long beach moved NY Russian mob (Rudi Guiliani mayor era) then FBI/CIA knows it all in details, they saw it happen, they let it happen deliberately so that Russia can think they are controlling Washington but in reality its the american deep state thats using Russian puppet Trump in pulling Russia out of China. It will be Trump who will use whatever influence he has in EU to again let Russian exports in Europe. A western trade dependent Russia is a non Chinese ally Russia. The Energy resources, the hydrocarbon, the mineral, the ports, every asset Russia has will belong to west against USD/EU not Chinese Yen or any other currency. US/EU first made every move to fail BRICS currency plan and now they are pulling Russia out of Chinese fold against what? some stupid ass ice deserts of Ukraine that they have no connection with? They provoked Russia throuh NATO threat to attack Ukraine, Russia lost the plot and tried to get back into the game using proxies in West (Trump), West (US deep state) allows Russia back but at their own terms and away from China. A broader game well played by West.

Because of illiterate Mullah leadership of Iran who have zero understanding of the world, who wants to sacrifice Iran for Sunni Arabs (who hate Iran), Iran's only option here is to talk to US and let sanctions be relieved to allow USD in Iranian markets. Mark my words Russia will throw Iran on table as a bargaining chip in talks over Ukraine and later again with EU. They will pull out of any pact with Iran. It will be better if Iran can approach west itself before being used as a tool by Russia.

 

[ToddE]

Which is why I think Iran should strive for weapon capability asap, what is the hold up then? They're almost at weapon grade concentration if not already.

Believe it or not I'm rooting for Iran here but it is frustrating to see them dragging it on and on over the years, all the nuclear negotiations for what? Do they want nukes or do they not want nukes? If they're getting sanctioned anyway then why not just do it like North Korea did, assemble weapons, get a detonation, demonstrate deterrence once and for all?

Iran is ruled by pu$$ies who are very efficient at hanging teenage girls because of hijab BS but they lack ballz to nuke up Iran. They wasted Iranian lives, generals, soldiers, 100 Billion USD in supporting Arabs who spit back at Iran but refused to modernize Iranian military, economics, and society because of Fatwas and shit. Iranian Hydrocarbon sector needs 200-250 Bln USD investment to be market level utilized but nobody is interested, the brain drain is at its all-time high, the military is not where it should have been. But hey we have the revolution.

IRI is one of the weakest form of Iran in its 3000 years old civilisational history. Today Iran is surrounded by rapidly modernising enemies in form of (P)GCC, Israel-Torkey-Azerbaijan, all smelling blood seeing weakness in Tehran, even Taliban pedos, But these mullahs are busy looting Iran in name of some islamic revolution.

 

[Tijani]

Which is why I think Iran should strive for weapon capability asap, what is the hold up then? They're almost at weapon grade concentration if not already.

Believe it or not I'm rooting for Iran here but it is frustrating to see them dragging it on and on over the years, all the nuclear negotiations for what? Do they want nukes or do they not want nukes? If they're getting sanctioned anyway then why not just do it like North Korea did, assemble weapons, get a detonation, demonstrate deterrence once and for all?

Your frustration is understandable considering the situation but believe there's a bigger strategy at play here. I ask that those who are supporters and love Iran exercise prudent patience. I for one trust the Iranian decision making elite considering the strives they've taken since 1979.