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Kya Pakistan Ko TTP Sy Negotiations Karni Chahiyay? ft Sumera Khan

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Why can’t Pakistan solve the Afghanistan problem even after 25 years? Did talking to militants backfire? And is Pakistan still repeating the same mistakes?

In this episode, TCM’s Wahid Ali sits down with Sumera Khan to break down Pakistan’s war on terror, its Afghanistan policy, and what went wrong.

00:00 - Intro
02:24 - How Did Ex-FATA Become a Fault Line?
08:24 - Why Did Pakistan Support Afghan Taliban?
12:01 - Are All Afghans Against Pakistan?
16:51 - Why Did Pakistan Negotiate With TTP?
20:06 - Why Were Security Operations Delayed?
27:17 - Did Locals Support Security Forces?
32:54 - How Was the Situation Before 2021?
35:35 - The Early Leadership of TTP
41:59 - The Problematic Leadership of TTP
46:19 - Pakistan's Stance as a Hard State

@RescueRanger @VCheng @Oscar @Dalit @Rational Philosopher @hasssanali8998 @PAKISTANFOREVER @hussain0216 @Fatman17 @Signalian @Distant_Observer

 

[Fatman17]

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Kya Pakistan Ko TTP Sy Negotiations Karni Chahiyay? ft Sumera Khan

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Why can’t Pakistan solve the Afghanistan problem even after 25 years? Did talking to militants backfire? And is Pakistan still repeating the same mistakes?

In this episode, TCM’s Wahid Ali sits down with Sumera Khan to break down Pakistan’s war on terror, its Afghanistan policy, and what went wrong.

00:00 - Intro
02:24 - How Did Ex-FATA Become a Fault Line?
08:24 - Why Did Pakistan Support Afghan Taliban?
12:01 - Are All Afghans Against Pakistan?
16:51 - Why Did Pakistan Negotiate With TTP?
20:06 - Why Were Security Operations Delayed?
27:17 - Did Locals Support Security Forces?
32:54 - How Was the Situation Before 2021?
35:35 - The Early Leadership of TTP
41:59 - The Problematic Leadership of TTP
46:19 - Pakistan's Stance as a Hard State

@RescueRanger @VCheng @Oscar @Dalit @Rational Philosopher @hasssanali8998 @PAKISTANFOREVER @hussain0216 @Fatman17 @Signalian @Distant_Observer

Negotiations with the afghans/taliban can NEVER work because they believe that Pakistan belongs to them and they have a genocidal hatred towards Pakistanis. They are also jealous of Pakistan which breeds extreme resentment. The ONLY answer to the afghan problem is to commit extreme brutality against them. That is the ONLY language that afghans understand.

 

[hussain0216]

Kya Pakistan Ko TTP Sy Negotiations Karni Chahiyay? ft Sumera Khan

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Why can’t Pakistan solve the Afghanistan problem even after 25 years? Did talking to militants backfire? And is Pakistan still repeating the same mistakes?

In this episode, TCM’s Wahid Ali sits down with Sumera Khan to break down Pakistan’s war on terror, its Afghanistan policy, and what went wrong.

00:00 - Intro
02:24 - How Did Ex-FATA Become a Fault Line?
08:24 - Why Did Pakistan Support Afghan Taliban?
12:01 - Are All Afghans Against Pakistan?
16:51 - Why Did Pakistan Negotiate With TTP?
20:06 - Why Were Security Operations Delayed?
27:17 - Did Locals Support Security Forces?
32:54 - How Was the Situation Before 2021?
35:35 - The Early Leadership of TTP
41:59 - The Problematic Leadership of TTP
46:19 - Pakistan's Stance as a Hard State

@RescueRanger @VCheng @Oscar @Dalit @Rational Philosopher @hasssanali8998 @PAKISTANFOREVER @hussain0216 @Fatman17 @Signalian @Distant_Observer

The answer to the above is simple

The answer is BROTHERHOOD

We thought they were our neighbors, our Muslim brothers and kin

And as a result we jumped through hoop after hoop trying to appease a weaker enemy
We made multiple mistakes because of BROTHERHOOD
We let millions of our enemy into our country
We went soft on them when they committed crimes, invasions and attacks

We hoped that BROTHERHOOD would make them see sense and stop them attacking us

We hoped that is that if we took them in, supported them against other enemies like the USSR or USA they would wake up and see the BROTHERHOOD and make peace and stop attacking us



BROTHERHOOD led us down this path
If the Afghans were Hindus we would have mass slaughtered them, like in Bangla in 71
We would have made mountains of skulls of the Hindu afghans
We would not tolerate the presence of Hindus in our cities, with their language and customs
Our religious right we be screaming from the pulpits about the Hindu Afghan enemy


But because of BROTHERHOOD we made mistake after mistake
No MORE,
Hate afghans
Hurt afghans
See ALL afghans as the enemy
Wage a war upon their language, their culture, their people and their land
Persecute afghans like the enemy they are

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

The answer to the above is simple

The answer is BROTHERHOOD

We thought they were our neighbors, our Muslim brothers and kin

And as a result we jumped through hoop after hoop trying to appease a weaker enemy
We made multiple mistakes because of BROTHERHOOD
We let millions of our enemy into our country
We went soft on them when they committed crimes, invasions and attacks

We hoped that BROTHERHOOD would make them see sense and stop them attacking us

We hoped that is that if we took them in, supported them against other enemies like the USSR or USA they would wake up and see the BROTHERHOOD and make peace and stop attacking us



BROTHERHOOD led us down this path
If the Afghans were Hindus we would have mass slaughtered them, like in Bangla in 71
We would have made mountains of skulls of the Hindu afghans
We would not tolerate the presence of Hindus in our cities, with their language and customs
Our religious right we be screaming from the pulpits about the Hindu Afghan enemy


But because of BROTHERHOOD we made mistake after mistake
No MORE,
Hate afghans
Hurt afghans
See ALL afghans as the enemy
Wage a war upon their language, their culture, their people and their land
Persecute afghans like the enemy they are

I would also add that in the future, we ALL NEED to ALWAYS put Pakistan FIRST and COMPLETELY do away with thinking about the "Ummah" or "Muslim brotherhood". That has been Pakistan's downfall especially since ALL non-Pakistani Muslims put their own interests first and NEVER EVER give a damn about "Muslim brotherhood" or the "Ummah".

 

[hussain0216]

I would also add that in the future, we ALL NEED to ALWAYS put Pakistan FIRST and COMPLETELY do away with thinking about the "Ummah" or "Muslim brotherhood". That has been Pakistan's downfall especially since ALL non-Pakistani Muslims put their own interests first and NEVER EVER give a damn about "Muslim brotherhood" or the "Ummah".

I would agree but I would say Muslim brotherhood and ummah is part of Islam

But we need to use our BRAINS about it, are the people who we are dealing with reciprocating the positive feelings

Ummah could make the Muslim world powerful, multiple states working together with a common economic and defence relations, holding strategic positions in the world and with the youngest, largest and fastest growing populations in ageing world


But we need right and intelligent thinking, not blind ethnocentric bullshit

 

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[VCheng]

Why can’t Pakistan solve the Afghanistan problem even after 25 years? Did talking to militants backfire? And is Pakistan still repeating the same mistakes?

These are not mistakes. Misuse of religiously motivated proxies was baked into Pakistan's foundations by its creator General Zia ul Haq. This is a design feature.

 

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These are not mistakes. Misuse of religiously motivated proxies was baked into Pakistan's foundations by its creator General Zia ul Haq. This is a design feature.

I merely posted the video's description. Those are not my words.

 

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I would also add that in the future, we ALL NEED to ALWAYS put Pakistan FIRST and COMPLETELY do away with thinking about the "Ummah" or "Muslim brotherhood". That has been Pakistan's downfall especially since ALL non-Pakistani Muslims put their own interests first and NEVER EVER give a damn about "Muslim brotherhood" or the "Ummah".

I completely agree. Nationalism above all else.

 

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