hydrabadi_arab
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And who removed the saner elements of the PTI?That is not correct - nor is that accurately represented in the whatsapp group brigade.
First Sohail Afridi published a 7 point draft - that you can find in any newspaper.
1. Regular PM - Opposition meetings - this is a valid demand depending upon frequency - supported by me.
2. A committee including the PPP - also VERY VALID - supported wholeheartedly by me
3. The Jail and medical rights for IK - this was reasonable until the version in which the party picks the hospital and the party’s doctors run the treatment. That collides with prison custody and with a Supreme Court process that is still open. It is a legal dispute, not an instant denial of care. His sister, a doctor, was at the PIMS exam and said he was fit, blood pressure 120/80.
4. Meetings with family, nominated lawyers and authorized people, under jail rules, and not to be used for anything the law already forbids. Valid. I support it.
5. Petitions and appeals, including those of women, elderly and sick prisoners, taken up within 10 days where legally possible - these two words are important. -The executive cannot order a court to finish a case in 10 days, and it cannot order a release a court has not granted. Reasonable to ask that cases be listed but impossible to guarantee the outcome. To suggest the Faujis can guarantee it also ignores their own internal agency maintenance.
Then what the PTI negotiators actually did in the room actually contradicted what they published in the draft. Raja is ON RECORD - any operations in KP had to be agreed between the federal and KP governments(that is OK) and framed in consultation with the parties in the KP Assembly(Maybe unless you want PTM members with TTP links also there) and then tribal elders(Also an opsec risk).
Then, they went further into total idiocy - they asked for guarantees that operations that would not expose civilians to death, property loss or displacement. . The TTP’s method is to live, move and fight inside civilian populations. No government, and no army, can promise zero civilian casualties or zero displacement and still conduct a counter-insurgency... Find ANY EXAMPLE IN HISTORY where this has worked? NONE.
This exact process was tried already well before PTI with all these other parties in Swat and it fell through.
Imran Khan is no longer in control of his party - you have mixed PTM/TTP elements from FATA reps - more saner elements that represent old PTI and somewhat new PTI... and Sohail Afridi who now is ambitious enough and goaded enough to want to take over as PTI or rather Independent KP movement.
The faujeets and patwaris may be idiots in their own rights destroying the country, but this PTI movement is also taking all its cultists for a ride.
I dare any youthiaa to riot, the massacre will be sight to behold. End this fitnay once for all, you will be killing two birds with one. PTITTP
And if it was really that easy to take over PTI it would have ceased to exist against the relentless attacks it faced from Lumber 1 and their Lund leaguer cohorts somewhere around mid to late 2022That is not correct - nor is that accurately represented in the whatsapp group brigade.
First Sohail Afridi published a 7 point draft - that you can find in any newspaper.
1. Regular PM - Opposition meetings - this is a valid demand depending upon frequency - supported by me.
2. A committee including the PPP - also VERY VALID - supported wholeheartedly by me
3. The Jail and medical rights for IK - this was reasonable until the version in which the party picks the hospital and the party’s doctors run the treatment. That collides with prison custody and with a Supreme Court process that is still open. It is a legal dispute, not an instant denial of care. His sister, a doctor, was at the PIMS exam and said he was fit, blood pressure 120/80.
4. Meetings with family, nominated lawyers and authorized people, under jail rules, and not to be used for anything the law already forbids. Valid. I support it.
5. Petitions and appeals, including those of women, elderly and sick prisoners, taken up within 10 days where legally possible - these two words are important. -The executive cannot order a court to finish a case in 10 days, and it cannot order a release a court has not granted. Reasonable to ask that cases be listed but impossible to guarantee the outcome. To suggest the Faujis can guarantee it also ignores their own internal agency maintenance.
Then what the PTI negotiators actually did in the room actually contradicted what they published in the draft. Raja is ON RECORD - any operations in KP had to be agreed between the federal and KP governments(that is OK) and framed in consultation with the parties in the KP Assembly(Maybe unless you want PTM members with TTP links also there) and then tribal elders(Also an opsec risk).
Then, they went further into total idiocy - they asked for guarantees that operations that would not expose civilians to death, property loss or displacement. . The TTP’s method is to live, move and fight inside civilian populations. No government, and no army, can promise zero civilian casualties or zero displacement and still conduct a counter-insurgency... Find ANY EXAMPLE IN HISTORY where this has worked? NONE.
This exact process was tried already well before PTI with all these other parties in Swat and it fell through.
Imran Khan is no longer in control of his party - you have mixed PTM/TTP elements from FATA reps - more saner elements that represent old PTI and somewhat new PTI... and Sohail Afridi who now is ambitious enough and goaded enough to want to take over as PTI or rather Independent KP movement.
The faujeets and patwaris may be idiots in their own rights destroying the country, but this PTI movement is also taking all its cultists for a ride.
**** ass nga. Your type are like the Jews of Pakistan. Riling people up to kill each other off and watching and hiding in sidelines.I dare any youthiaa to riot, the massacre will be sight to behold. End this fitnay once for all, you will be killing two birds with one. PTITTP
KPK isn't BALOCHISTAN that's just massive and sparsely populated. Nor it is AJK, too small so they can subdue it. These faujews are the biggest traitors who are campaigning to irreversibly hurt the federation of Pakistan.KPK Police about to be transformed into the incompetent Balochistan Police just a few steps left