Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present

Because he blocked my account and because Lebanon’s security matters to me....
When a Zionist speaks Arabic, he sounds more like a king than the king himself! He blames the U.S. president for not waging a war to destroy Lebanon 🇱🇧, just to please Netanyahu.
Trump puts his country’s interests first, but as for you, you didn’t fight Iran, and you didn’t shut your mouths.
Lebanon 🇱🇧 will live in peace, whether Netanyahu likes it or not!!

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Whenever you get an occupation there will always be a resistance.
Whether it was Hezbollah or a third party - Israels response would be the same.
The aggressor, the genocider and its actions are diluted and a secondary issue?
I dont understand what "Lebanese IMPOTENCE" has to do with anything?
I am not a Hezbollah fan but if Arabs had pulled their finger out and defended their cousins - then they wouldnt even exist.
I suggest bringing and using Pakistan and India into this is to say the least - off topic.
1) The main point was that the occupation is a consequence of the weakness of the Lebanese state and its divisions - something Hezbollah itself has contributed to negatively. I suggest you do some readings about this topic (Lebanese social, political, sectarian etc. cohesion - Lebanese civil war is a good start) or ask various Lebanese people. Depending on who you ask (Sunnis, Shias, Druze, Christians etc.) you will get a completely different answer most of the time.

2) Which is exactly what I wrote but Hezbollah has not exactly helped itself by dragging Lebanon into conflicts that does not directly impact them whether it is Gaza or Iran. Do you think that the average Lebanese who was minding his own business but was targeted by Israeli bombardments of entire building complexes, just to kill 1 or 2 Hezbollah operatives, would support this or support dragging Lebanon further to the ground - a country that has already collapsed economically and is struggling a lot? Lebanon itself, Hezbollah included, cannot do anything to defeat Israel/USA anyway or prevent genocidal Israeli policies in Gaza either as we all unfortunately saw. Hence the need for another approach.

3) Who claimed that? The main obstacle problem are and remain the Zionists and their occupation in Palestine and now elsewhere as well. That is self-evident. However saying, rightly in my eyes, that a new more effective approach needs to be taken, is hardly approval for said occupation?

4) How can you not understand the the internal weakness of the Lebanese state and the failure of Lebanon to develop a cohesive, representative army, is not a problem? Baffling, really.

5) I am not against Hezbollah if they are focused on combating Zionist aggression in South Lebanon (how they came about). I am not a fan of them being used (no longer the case) as Iranian regime pawns to oppress and kill fellow Arabs and Muslims in Syria next door in order to prop up a pro-Iranian regime (Al-Assad regime). This is the only reason why most Arab Muslims have turned against Hezbollah or at least their opinions have turned more negative. That is besides Hezbollah's drug trade ("very Islamic"), corruption, nepotism and trying to unsurp Lebanese state institutions. Or how they killed an elected Lebanese Prime Minister (Hariri) back in 2005.

Arabs cannot defeat a nuclear armed Israel supported fully by the US (foremost superpower), all of the West and even Russia. Much of Russia is ruled by powerful and wealthy Russian Jewish oligarchs. Many are based in the UK as you might know already.

Well in theory we could, but we would likely be nuked in return. So there is no military solution most likely. At least not now.

Also due to geography, Palestine and Israel are both tiny entities are next door to each other, any large scale attack (if nukes are exchanged) and the prospect of any Palestinian state for the foreseeable future goes out of the window. Not to mention that almost 25% of the Israeli population is made up of Palestinians. Those that stayed and were not kicked out after 1948. So as you can see and probably already know, it is a bit complicated.

6) It was a direct comparison to a non-state actor (Hezbollah) being stronger than the official army. I am sure that you would not like if a non-state actor was stronger than the Pakistani army - in particular if that non-state actor was heavily propped up by a foreign entity (Iran). This precisely is a good example of the many failures of Lebanon as a nation state.

Because he blocked my account and because Lebanon’s security matters to me....
When a Zionist speaks Arabic, he sounds more like a king than the king himself! He blames the U.S. president for not waging a war to destroy Lebanon 🇱🇧, just to please Netanyahu.
Trump puts his country’s interests first, but as for you, you didn’t fight Iran, and you didn’t shut your mouths.
Lebanon 🇱🇧 will live in peace, whether Netanyahu likes it or not!!

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This troll and UAE propagandist (Amjad Taha) is an Iranian (Iranian Arab). Not an Emirati. Most of their propagandists are not locals either. Just a heads up.

He should not really be speaking in the name of UAE or Arabs. As an Iranian Arab he might have legitimate grievances with the Iranian regime but he should stop promoting this stupid idea of an Arab and Israeli alliance. There is no such thing and there will never be such a thing as long as Israel behaves like a deranged lunatic and as long as they are preventing a Palestinian state. If/once they learn to live in peace with neighboring Arabs and Palestinians, we can try to have some kind of relationship for the sake of the region and peace. Until that, he and other propagandists should just speak for themsleves.

Never in my life have I met a single Arab that has the views of this Iranian (Amjad Taha) and the few (online) that I have seen discuss this guy, mostly make fun of him.

5 years ago he presented himself as an Bahraini (LOL). 10 years ago he wrote articles as an Iranian (Iranian Arab). He had completely different view just 5 years ago as well.

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My suspicion is that he is being paid for propagandizing a certain agenda - hence the many bots and farms that reply to his content. This is very typical of the UAE propagandists. They are doing (did the same) when they lost control of South Yemen to KSA/Yemeni government and they did/are doing the same thing with Sudan.

It is a very coordinated effort on Arabic X (which is a cesspool of hatred, propagandists and nonsense like much of the internet unfortunately is) and he seems to be a part of it.
 
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1) The main point was that the occupation is a consequence of the weakness of the Lebanese state and its divisions - something Hezbollah itself has contributed to negatively. I suggest you do some readings about this topic (Lebanese social, political, sectarian etc. cohesion - Lebanese civil war is a good start) or ask various Lebanese people. Depending on who you ask (Sunnis, Shias, Druze, Christians etc.) you will get a completely different answer most of the time.

2) Which is exactly what I wrote but Hezbollah has not exactly helped itself by dragging Lebanon into conflicts that does not directly impact them whether it is Gaza or Iran. Do you think that the average Lebanese who was minding his own business but was targeted by Israeli bombardments of entire building complexes, just to kill 1 or 2 Hezbollah operatives, would support this or support dragging Lebanon further to the ground - a country that has already collapsed economically and is struggling a lot? Lebanon itself, Hezbollah included, cannot do anything to defeat Israel/USA anyway or prevent genocidal Israeli policies in Gaza either as we all unfortunately saw. Hence the need for another approach.

3) Who claimed that? The main obstacle problem are and remain the Zionists and their occupation in Palestine and now elsewhere as well. That is self-evident. However saying, rightly in my eyes, that a new more effective approach needs to be taken, is hardly approval for said occupation?

4) How can you not understand the the internal weakness of the Lebanese state and the failure of Lebanon to develop a cohesive, representative army, is not a problem? Baffling, really.

5) I am not against Hezbollah if they are focused on combating Zionist aggression in South Lebanon (how they came about). I am not a fan of them being used (no longer the case) as Iranian regime pawns to oppress and kill fellow Arabs and Muslims in Syria next door in order to prop up a pro-Iranian regime (Al-Assad regime). This is the only reason why most Arab Muslims have turned against Hezbollah or at least their opinions have turned more negative. That is besides Hezbollah's drug trade ("very Islamic"), corruption, nepotism and trying to unsurp Lebanese state institutions. Or how they killed an elected Lebanese Prime Minister (Hariri) back in 2005.

Arabs cannot defeat a nuclear armed Israel supported fully by the US (foremost superpower), all of the West and even Russia. Much of Russia is ruled by powerful and wealthy Russian Jewish oligarchs. Many are based in the UK as you might know already.

Well in theory we could, but we would likely be nuked in return. So there is no military solution most likely. At least not now.

Also due to geography, Palestine and Israel are both tiny entities are next door to each other, any large scale attack (if nukes are exchanged) and the prospect of any Palestinian state for the foreseeable future goes out of the window. Not to mention that almost 25% of the Israeli population is made up of Palestinians. Those that stayed and were not kicked out after 1948. So as you can see and probably already know, it is a bit complicated.

6) It was a direct comparison to a non-state actor (Hezbollah) being stronger than the official army. I am sure that you would not like if a non-state actor was stronger than the Pakistani army - in particular if that non-state actor was heavily propped up by a foreign entity (Iran). This precisely is a good example of the many failures of Lebanon as a nation state.

The Arabs have disgraced themselves

You look like impotent cowards
 
The Arabs have disgraced themselves

You look like impotent cowards
Arab states, not Arab people. But yes the Arab states are all closet Zionists. It's funny to hear them criticize Hezbollah for "dragging Lebanon into war" when Arab states and Israel themselves dragged America into an un-necessary war on Iran.
 
The Iranians for all their faults, stood up for themselves, they fought
They took on casualties, they lost innocent children and important leaders

But they RESISTED like any honourable people would do

They didn't make excuses,

They fought back


And now they have managed to force a situation positive for them, that will establish them as the major power in the middle east



Hezbollah for all its faults, has done the same



Whether any one likes or or hates them, they are viewed as a honourable brave people





And the Arabs have...............?
@_Arabia_
 
The Iranians for all their faults, stood up for themselves, they fought
They took on casualties, they lost innocent children and important leaders

But they RESISTED like any honourable people would do

They didn't make excuses,

They fought back


And now they have managed to force a situation positive for them, that will establish them as the major power in the middle east



Hezbollah for all its faults, has done the same



Whether any one likes or or hates them, they are viewed as a honourable brave people





And the Arabs have...............?
@_Arabia_
What are you even talking about? Did the US and Israel attack and invade Mauritania? Morocco? Algeria? Tunisia? Libya? Egypt? Sudan? Comoros? Oman? KSA? Bahrain? UAE? Kuwait? Qatar? Jordan? Egypt?

Israel is attacking tiny landlocked and largely defenseless Gaza with the 24/7 help of the US and international community. Same with Israeli settlers attacking old Palestinian grandmas in the West Bank. Hardly anything impressive. Or maybe it is for you. Now they are busy with Hezbollah and tiny South Lebanon, hardly a representation of a landmass the size of Russia with a population approaching 600 million people. Even most of tiny Lebanon is completely unaffected by this conflict.

What "Arabs" are you talking about here? Arabs during the Islamic era in the past 1400 years (95% of the time Jews lived under the rule of Arabs in Arab lands mostly)? The Arabs that conquered most of the Islamic world and ruled half of Europe for almost half a millennia in many places of Europe such as Iberia? The Arabs that resisted and defeated the Mongols and Crusaders?

The Arabs that defeated the French imperial power in Algeria? The Arabs that kicked out the British within a few years across most of the Arab world?

The Arabs in Iraq that killed 5 times as many US soldiers in 8 years (2003-2011) than the Afghans/Taliban did in 20 years?

The Arabs who to this day have killed more Israeli soldiers and US soldiers?

The Arabs who attacked the US directly (9/11) and caused it more harm on its own soil than any other people/nation in history?

Last time I checked Arabs in Yemen (Houthis) did better absorbing and resisting US/Israeli attacks than the Iranians did.

Tiny landlocked Gaza and Hamas gave the Israelis a historic beating in the modern era as well less than 3 years ago. We can argue whether the tactics were worth it and so on.

Hezbollah and South Lebanese (Arabs) are doing quite well for themsleves against overwhelming odds against the IDF and Israel as well.

A totally destroyed and broken Syria after 15 years of devastating civil war has also stopped Israeli incursions into its territory. For now.

Of course if your criticism is of lack of unity, united front, cohesive policy, stupid rivalry etc. I agree but this goes for the entire Muslim world by large.

If your idea is that just because there is a war or conflict in Arab country x or y, Arab regime x or y from far away is going to automatically attack enemy/opponent x or y, this is not how geopolitics works.

At the end of the day each state/actor/regime is mostly on their own with a bigger or smaller degree of outside support.

I also once thought like how you do - that there would be a unified Arab stance on everything, a unified Muslim stand, that Muslims would never allow for the US invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan etc., that Muslims would have liberated Palestine ages ago, but the ground reality is unfortunately a different one. Don't blame me, I have always only talked about the necessity and need for Arab and Muslim unity across all spheres and as long as each nation states interests and independence (unless they want unification) is respected.

But I am engaging with an individual who I have seen on numerous occasions write nothing but hatred against his Muslim Afghan neighbors and even certain ethnic groups within Pakistan, so I am not sure if you are the right person to talk about lack of unity or disgracing oneself or whatever you are writing.
 
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Sorry I’m going to say if it was actually true Hezbollah would have been showing go pro cam footage take it with a grain of salt I highly doubt it
 
What are you even talking about? Did the US and Israel attack and invade Mauritania? Morocco? Algeria? Tunisia? Libya? Egypt? Sudan? Comoros? Oman? KSA? Bahrain? UAE? Kuwait? Qatar? Jordan? Egypt?

Israel is attacking tiny landlocked and largely defenseless Gaza with the 24/7 help of the US and international community. Same with Israeli settlers attacking old Palestinian grandmas in the West Bank. Hardly anything impressive. Or maybe it is for you. Now they are busy with Hezbollah and tiny South Lebanon, hardly a representation of a landmass the size of Russia with a population approaching 600 million people. Even most of tiny Lebanon is completely unaffected by this conflict.

What "Arabs" are you talking about here? Arabs during the Islamic era in the past 1400 years (95% of the time Jews lived under the rule of Arabs in Arab lands mostly)? The Arabs that conquered most of the Islamic world and ruled half of Europe for almost half a millennia in many places of Europe such as Iberia? The Arabs that resisted and defeated the Mongols and Crusaders?

The Arabs that defeated the French imperial power in Algeria? The Arabs that kicked out the British within a few years across most of the Arab world?

The Arabs in Iraq that killed 5 times as many US soldiers in 8 years (2003-2011) than the Afghans/Taliban did in 20 years?

The Arabs who to this day have killed more Israeli soldiers and US soldiers?

The Arabs who attacked the US directly (9/11) and caused it more harm on its own soil than any other people/nation in history?

Last time I checked Arabs in Yemen (Houthis) did better absorbing and resisting US/Israeli attacks than the Iranians did.

Tiny landlocked Gaza and Hamas gave the Israelis a historic beating in the modern era as well less than 3 years ago. We can argue whether the tactics were worth it and so on.

Hezbollah and South Lebanese (Arabs) are doing quite well for themsleves against overwhelming odds against the IDF and Israel as well.

A totally destroyed and broken Syria after 15 years of devastating civil war has also stopped Israeli incursions into its territory. For now.

Of course if your criticism is of lack of unity, united front, cohesive policy, stupid rivalry etc. I agree but this goes for the entire Muslim world by large.

If your idea is that just because there is a war or conflict in Arab country x or y, Arab regime x or y from far away is going to automatically attack enemy/opponent x or y, this is not how geopolitics works.

At the end of the day each state/actor/regime is mostly on their own with a bigger or smaller degree of outside support.

I also once thought like how you do - that there would be a unified Arab stance on everything, a unified Muslim stand, that Muslims would never allow for the US invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan etc., that Muslims would have liberated Palestine ages ago, but the ground reality is unfortunately a different one. Don't blame me, I have always only talked about the necessity and need for Arab and Muslim unity across all spheres and as long as each nation states interests and independence (unless they want unification) is respected.

But I am engaging with an individual who I have seen on numerous occasions write nothing but hatred against his Muslim Afghan neighbors and even certain ethnic groups within Pakistan, so I am not sure if you are the right person to talk about lack of unity or disgracing oneself or whatever you are writing.
Stop talking nonsense. Arabs didn’t defeat the crusaders or mongols. The crusaders were fought by kilij arsalan, nizam ul mulk who were Seljuks (Turkish / Iranian). Nuruddin Zengi, immamuddin shirukh, and salahuddin ayubi were Turkish / Kurdish who fought and defeated the Crusaders. The Fatmids in Egypt were also Berbers from North Africa. The Mamluks who defeated the mongols in ain jalut saifuddin qutuz and Baibars were from the caucuses ie Chechnya / Central Asia. The ones who conquered and fought against the Christians in Al-Andalus ; Tariq Ben Ziyad was a Berber amazigh. The Almohads, Al Murabitun, the Marinids, the Zirids were Berbers. Yusuf ibn tashfin was Berber who defeated the Christian forces in Sagrajas. Mansa Musa who spread and promoted Islam in sub Saharan Africa was a black African. The buyids, samanids etc who spread and defended Islam in Central Asia Pakistan etc were Persians.
Arabs by which I mean khaleeji Arabs from the Arabian peninsula have been impotent and a non factor ever since the Abasdid khalifat collapsed to just Baghdad around 900 ad and the collapse of ummayad rule in Cordoba around the same time. Since then the vanguards of Islam have been Berbers, Africans, Turks, Persians, Indonesians , south asians etc So much so that biggest and wealthiest Muslim powers around 1700 were the ottomans, Safavids, Mughals, Bengal sultanate, and Malay/ Indonesian sultanates, and central Asian Muslim khanates.
It is only recently maybe the last 40-50 years thanks to oil and gas that khaleej Arabs have gained wealth and prominence. Prior to that the centre of the Arabic speaking world was in Cairo, Damascus,, Baghdad who btw are not Arabs but are arabized. The Maghrebis - Libyans, Tunisians, Algerians, etc are also arabized Berbers and culturally different from khakeej Arabs.
 
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Stop talking nonsense. Arabs didn’t defeat the crusaders or mongols. The crusaders were fought by kilij arsalan, nizam ul mulk who were Seljuks (Turkish / Iranian). Nuruddin Zengi, immamuddin shirukh, and salahuddin ayubi were Turkish / Kurdish who fought and defeated the Crusaders. The Fatmids in Egypt were also Berbers from North Africa. The Mamluks who defeated the mongols in ain jalut saifuddin qutuz and Baibars were from the caucuses ie Chechnya / Central Asia. The ones who conquered and fought against the Christians in Al-Andalus ; Tariq Ben Ziyad was a Berber amazigh. The Almohads, Al Murabitun, the Marinids, the Zirids were Berbers. Yusuf ibn tashfin was Berber who defeated the Christian forces in Sagrajas. Mansa Musa who spread and promoted Islam in sub Saharan Africa was a black African. The buyids, samanids etc who spread and defended Islam in Central Asia Pakistan etc were Persians.
Arabs by which I mean khaleeji Arabs from the Arabian peninsula have been impotent and a non factor ever since the Abasdid khalifat collapsed to just Baghdad around 900 ad and the collapse of ummayad rule in Cordoba around the same time. Since then the vanguards of Islam have been Berbers, Africans, Turks, Persians, Indonesians , south asians etc So much so that biggest and wealthiest Muslim powers around 1700 were the ottomans, Safavids, Mughals, Bengal sultanate, and Malay/ Indonesian sultanates, and central Asian Muslim khanates.
It is only recently maybe the last 40-50 years thanks to oil and gas that khaleej Arabs have gained wealth and prominence. Prior to that the centre of the Arabic speaking world was in Cairo, Damascus,, Baghdad who btw are not Arabs but are arabized. The Maghrebis - Libyans, Tunisians, Algerians, etc are also arabized Berbers and culturally different from khakeej Arabs.
What an ignorant post from a Bangladeshi of all people. I suggest you stick to your own local matters that you might have more of a clue about as your clearly have no clues about events in the Arab world.

Mamluks were literal slaves and mercenaries imported by Arabs and employed by Arabs from conquered territories. Look up the meaning of the word in Arabic.

Seljuks were Turkic Central Asian Mamluks with nothing to do with Iranians or Anatolians.

Most if not half of their armies were composed of Arabs.

Mamluks in Egypt later became completely Arabized.

More ignorant nonsense from the troll.

Fatimids were an Arab dynasty of Hijazi origins.


Nothing Berber about them at all and besides of that Arabs and Berbers are closely related peoples.

Rest of your nonsense is just that.

Arabs from Arabia (Rashidun, Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimids) were the largest, most powerful and influential Islamic Caliphates that ruled most of the Islamic world from 620’s until 1258. Formally 1517 in Cairo.

Most of the Muslim dynasties in Al-Andalusia were Arab, including the last one in Granada. The Nasrids.


Tariq Ibn Zayid was an Arab as was his name and it were the Arabs who conquered all of North Africa and Iberia, not Berbers, who were the conquered people. Later Arabs and Berbers began intermarrying greatly and an Arab-Berber fusion emerged. No people, you Bangladeshis included, are “pure”.

Half of the others you mention were Arab as well. Even Saladin had Arab ancestry (partial) and was fully Arabized and most of his soldiers were local Arabs.

South East Asia (Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, South Philippines) became Muslim due to Arabian merchants, Sufis, settlers and rulers due to ancient trade ties. To this day there are millions of Indonesians of Arab (mainly Hijazi and Yemeni) origins. Arabs founded Singapore as well for instance.




The sultan of Brunei and his dynasty is of Arab origins for instance as are many other past dynasties in South East Asia.

Arabs also spread Islam all across the Muslim world, Africa, South Asia, Caucasus and Central Asia included.

There is an entire community in Sri Lanka, Sri Lankan Moors and other communities in South India who claim partial descent to those early and later Arabs.

More nonsense. Baghdad was founded by the Arab Abbasid dynasty and Iraqi Arabs are closely related to Saudi Arabian next door which every modern day DNA test confirms. Not only that, Arabs have a recorded presence in Mesopotamia dating back 3000 years and Arabs are believed to have originated in the Fertile Crecent where they were first recorded by name.

Arabia became Arabized as well, Yemen included. Means nothing. All pre-Islamic peoples in the Arab world are and were closely related which all modern day DNA tests confirm as well as history itself.

Most Maghrebis are Arab in origin, culture and language. Confirmed by DNA tests as well. Although most are mixed with Berbers, who as I already wrote, are closely related to us and part of the same language family as well.

In fact all Arabs in every Arab country (the cradle of civilisation home to the world's oldest civilisations and culture), are a mixture of Arabs and native Semitic (mostly) and non-Semitic peoples, and non- natives (due to migration and settlement), which creates the incredibly rich Arab mosaic and civilisation which is why talk about Arabs as a single monolith makes no sense, because there are numerous Arabs in every Arab country. In KSA alone there are numerous distinctive Arab subcultures and subgroups depending on the historical region.
 

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