Shags101
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Yeah either something is coming soon from Hezbollah or the Israelis are trying to push Hezbollah to do something big Netanyahu can’t survive unless the wars keep going
Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present
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Falcon29
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During the battle to support Gaza, with the collapse of engagement rules and the entry into a phase of open confrontation, the Israeli occupation army began, at the start of 2024, carrying out assassinations of field commanders through security operations executed either by drones or, at times, warplanes deploying munitions and other means, and this became a pattern.
Hezbollah responded, but "Israel" was prepared to bear the "cost" in exchange for eliminating leaders with whom it had an open vendetta.
The Israelis succeeded in their operations and were not deterred by the responses, and matters escalated to the point of targeting first-tier leaders, culminating in the assassination of the martyr Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.
Now, assassinations target individuals, some of whom the Israelis claim play military and logistical roles.
"Israel" acts without restraint and without paying any cost, taking advantage of the party’s situation and the region’s changing dynamics.
Consequently, and realistically, it will continue its assassination policy, striking any target that becomes available.
This situation is difficult, extremely difficult, and there seems to be no solution for it, especially since the party, for reasons mostly unknown, is not responding.
Hezbollah responded, but "Israel" was prepared to bear the "cost" in exchange for eliminating leaders with whom it had an open vendetta.
The Israelis succeeded in their operations and were not deterred by the responses, and matters escalated to the point of targeting first-tier leaders, culminating in the assassination of the martyr Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.
Now, assassinations target individuals, some of whom the Israelis claim play military and logistical roles.
"Israel" acts without restraint and without paying any cost, taking advantage of the party’s situation and the region’s changing dynamics.
Consequently, and realistically, it will continue its assassination policy, striking any target that becomes available.
This situation is difficult, extremely difficult, and there seems to be no solution for it, especially since the party, for reasons mostly unknown, is not responding.
kobra
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Really sad to see the total collapse of perhaps the most lethal gureilla entity assembled ever, These honorable fighters had done some marvels in the past. Never expected such a total collapse.
Shags101
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total collapse I don’t think so otherwise the Israelis wouldn’t be so invested in these drone strikes have you noticed at all it’s just a single person here and there I think they have dispersed fa and wide for a reason it’s extremely odd Hezbollah is so quiet I think this is definitely the calm before the storm
Falcon29
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It is political and not military. The political branch of Hezbollah will not give military wing enough freedom of action. This was Nasrallah's fault too who ultimately lost his life due to unwillingness to establish deterrence.
Na'im Qassem spoke today essentially saying we were responding in a limited 'precise' manner because we were afraid if we responded 'brutally' (heavier rocket fire) that Israel would escalate and strike Lebanon harder.
That is a big mistake which allowed Israel to control tempo of conflict and pick off Hezbollah members that aren't dispensable like political leadership of Hezbollah believes. And a lot of what they built went to waste due to strategic errors.
The political leadership of Hezbollah are afraid. From Israel, US, also domestic population of Lebanon. I guarantee if they utilized their full force in responding, the outcome would have been more to their favor, or the same outcome but having bloodied Israel and the IDF way more. And would have made Israel more hesitant in embarking on a new adventure against Lebanon.
Falcon29
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This is me saying I believed they mishandled things. New leadership is certainly going to be better.
I don't believe Hezbollah is finished for. And I don't want a war on Lebanon nor Gaza. People of Lebanon want security and want to live. I also want their security and safety. Same with Gaza.
Israel is not abiding by ceasefire agreements not in Gaza nor Lebanon. But the resistance in Gaza and Lebanon are tolerating the current situation for sake of their peoples wellbeing. The current status quo is better than an all out offensive/assault on their respective civilian populations which they can't contend against.
Shags101
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I think you think to much of the political part of Hezbollah nasrallah was the head of the political and spiritual at one point but I’m seeing Hezbollah movement that has gone into the shadows it’s almost creepy how quiet they have been Israel is targeting low level operatives calling them high ranking operatives I think something is about to go off sooner than later and the military of Hezbollah will come out swinging I really do think something is brewing and Netanyahu is hoping it happens soon but I think whatever it is it’s going to be big and I’m fairly sure this is going to Irans handiwork
Falcon29
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The مشايخ have a big role. Military wing obeys them but military wing also need to give feedback if they feel lack of freedom of action is hindering them. We shouldn't look at Resistance as a lifestyle, we should for achieving strategic victories. The role resistance plays right now is deterring Israel. Not going on a offensive.
In any case I'm talking about pre-Naim Qassem Hezbollah. Not post Naim Qassem. Hezbollah is going to change/adapt inevitable due to this experience and loss of Syria.
I don't wish for any war on Lebanon, not for our entertainment or anything else. Real people will lose their livelyhood and lives.
Israel is unpredictable at the moment. In the sense if it will try to follow through in enforcing it's unrealistic demands. I personally don't believe so. But they intend to be disruptive/unpredictable for at least another 1-2 years due to paranoia and also trying to exhaust their enemies.
In the long term strategic run, I don't believe they've achieved anything for themselves. You can see that by how they're trying to control freedom of thought in Western societies because they're losing the information war. Palestinians did achieve several things, due to Israel getting out of control. Israel has scared the GCC and Qatar. Lost some of their trust. Israel scared Iran. Iran learned what a war on it would look like. Turkey was also disturbed by Israels actions and strikes on Qatar, also US deployment in region. Egypt is now investing in protecting Sinai and potentially populating it more.
Before this war, they were not too concerned with Israel and had more trust of Israel/US administrations.
The 2030's are not going to be good for Israel and that's precisely because of the impression they're giving of themselves and how seek to establish themselves in the region -- which right now is as an enemy and threat to others -- and others are now taking it seriously. They don't need to go to war or 'resist'. They will develop their capabilities and economy and isolate Israel through many means other than war.
Falcon29
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@Shadi hassan
Israel is not good at achieving political victories. Their only true victories were in 1948 + 1967. They've been afraid to officially annex the West Bank since then.
Their only recent attempt at a political victory was to try eliminate the Palestinain cause by getting people onboard with the Abraham Accords. It was on its way there until Hamas disrupted it.
They still could've consolidated their gains, but they chose to be absolutely savage and barbaric in Gaza, and then alienated Egypt, Syrians, and also Qatar. Israel was out of control and all the work put into the Abraham's accords/normalization went to waste. It shows the Jews never respected their 'allies' and for them Abraham Accords was to buy time to further Judaize the West Bank. They don't actually seek a respectable partnership with neighbors in the region.
That is something people and governments of region learned and it will be hard to come back from.
Israel is not good at achieving political victories. Their only true victories were in 1948 + 1967. They've been afraid to officially annex the West Bank since then.
Their only recent attempt at a political victory was to try eliminate the Palestinain cause by getting people onboard with the Abraham Accords. It was on its way there until Hamas disrupted it.
They still could've consolidated their gains, but they chose to be absolutely savage and barbaric in Gaza, and then alienated Egypt, Syrians, and also Qatar. Israel was out of control and all the work put into the Abraham's accords/normalization went to waste. It shows the Jews never respected their 'allies' and for them Abraham Accords was to buy time to further Judaize the West Bank. They don't actually seek a respectable partnership with neighbors in the region.
That is something people and governments of region learned and it will be hard to come back from.
Persian Gulf
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Israel has terrorism domination and will and ability to slaughter thousands of civilians and displace millions at will while absorbing minimal costs
Hezbollah needs time to rebuild and isn't ready for a new confrontation
Hezbollah needs time to rebuild and isn't ready for a new confrontation
Shags101
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Hezbollah and Iran are looking for payback not actual war something is stirring and like @Persian Gulfhas said is Israel has been egging if Netanyahu had let it go and just let Hezbollah lick its wounds after the war instead of constantly belittling the group especially nasrallah they might have just sat back and watched it play out but after Iran I don’t think Iran Israel ceasefire was the end of it people in Iran and Lebanon are now to invested in it blood for blood eye for an eye
Hassan Al-Somal
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Breaking | Hezbollah’s Naeem Qassem: “Defensive” intervention for Gaza, prepared to fight if Israel renews aggression
In an interview today, Hezbollah deputy leader Naeem Qassem said the group’s intervention in support of Gaza was deliberate, necessary and defensive, taken to prevent Israel from carrying out a wider campaign of destruction and to protect the region.
He framed Hezbollah’s role as part of a principled “resistance” rooted in ideology and popular backing, insisting the movement acted to “inflict pain” on Israeli targets as a political tool to hasten a ceasefire and to weaken Israel’s battlefield capacity.
Qassem asserted that operations against Israeli cities, including strikes on Tel Aviv and a targeted hit on Benjamin Netanyahu’s residence, were intentional and intelligence-driven, and he described those actions as part of a measured campaign that avoided gratuitous violence while maximizing military and political effect. He stressed Hezbollah did not seek to start a wider war but warned it would fight “to the last” if Israel attempted further aggression or territorial expansion.
Reiterating solidarity with Gaza and the Palestinian cause, Qassem praised the fighters’ sacrifices and said the group remains ready to defend Lebanon and the Palestinian people. He urged implementation of ceasefire agreements, blamed the U.S. and Israel for regional instability, and called on Lebanese state institutions to assume responsibility for security while maintaining Hezbollah’s preparedness should future aggression require a response.
