Los Angeles Clashes between ICE and demonstrators, Trump sends in the National Guard.

[Davey Crockett]

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[KingQamaR]

You have to be legal to pay taxes. Illegals criminal need to be kicked out.

According to some sources I read they’d say you are Incorrect.

They pay taxes through an ITIN NUMBER .given to them by the IRS.

 

[Developereo]

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I suspect many of the rioters at this point are citizens or legal residents who think they cannot be deported.

Newsflash for them: a naturalized citizen can be deported if they are convicted of certain violent crimes.

However, people who are born US citizens are probably safe from deportation. I know UK has deported people born in UK then convicted of terrorism but I don't think the US has such draconian laws for US born citizens (not sure).

 

[Davey Crockett]

According to some sources I read they’d say you are Incorrect.

They pay taxes through an ITIN NUMBER .given to them by the IRS.

Nearly thirty years ago, was office manager for a start up that was half owned by one of the wealthiest Jews in Mexico.

With production manager acting as my interpreter, filled out the necessary paperwork for all the Mexicans for payroll on the factory floor.

When I returned to my office, the president of the company asked how it went.

Told him he will go broke if he ever held a Christmas dinner for the workers and their families.

Yes, they pay taxes. But they also claim an average of ten deductions so they don't really pay their fair share.

 

[j_hungary]

How is there going to be a race war when the problem is localized to a bunch of sanctuary cities run by Liberal Democrats.

These cities will be lucky if they don't end up like Detroit...full of unskilled people in lower income jobs who they can't extract significant taxes out of to pay the city's elaborate budget (which includes expensive city pension benefits pushed through by Democrat supported unions).

Just a quick post about some random facts

3 of the top 5 Surplus Cities are actually run by Democrats (Washington DC (1), Irving, California (2) and Lincoln< Nebraska (4))

While Plano, Texas (3) is run by Independent and OKC (5) is run by Republican

22 out of 75 Cities in the US had recorded surpluses, and 6 of them are in California

And 75% of Major US Cities are labelled "Taxpayer Burden", and 9 out of the top 10 Taxpayer burden was also run by Democrats.

70% of largest U.S. cities don’t have enough money to cover costs | The Highland County Press

In fiscal 2022, 70 percent of the largest cities in the U.S. did not have enough money to pay their bills.

highlandcountypress.com

 

[KingQamaR]

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If illegal orders are given to Soldiers they must not bay orders killing civilians. Disobey them orders or you will end up on war crime charges.

 

[j_hungary]

you need 60 votes to pass a bill in Senate. Democrats had 60 Senators in 2008-2010. They used it for Obamacare. I do not think moderate Democrats will touch it without some Republican support

Under the current laws there is no pathway for most of them to be US citizens

Actually, there is a pathway (several actually) for illegal to become a Resident (then become citizen), It can be done either by a K visa (Partner visa) or a U Visa (Criminal Justice visa)

Normally, you will need to be outside the US if you are illegal, but you can apply for a I-601A waiver to waive that requirement.

U visa is open for anyone who was victim of a crime and needed prosecution protection. Notice this is the same visa that gave the 50 or so Illegal Alien green card when they successfully sued Trump 1.0 for his then policy of separating their children from their care. Which I have a feeling when this current administration end there will be a lot of U visa application.

 

[j_hungary]

If illegal orders are given to Soldiers they must not bay orders killing civilians. Disobey them orders or you will end up on war crime charges.

They are going to get pull by the court very soon

Newsome already lodged a court case, I don't see how the POTUS can activate troop when there is not an insurrection. You can't deploy US MIlitary inside the US unless it's section 12406.

The Marine is outright violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, I don't think the activation of the guard is legal too. Unless the US is being invaded, you need the governor approval to use the National Guard and the President cannot use them because if he is, they (The National Guard) would become part of US Army, which is the military

 

[Skukuza]

I suspect many of the rioters at this point are citizens or legal residents who think they cannot be deported.

Newsflash for them: a naturalized citizen can be deported if they are convicted of certain violent crimes.

However, people who are born US citizens are probably safe from deportation. I know UK has deported people born in UK then convicted of terrorism but I don't think the US has such draconian laws for US born citizens (not sure).

These people certainly don't make a good case for their cause

 

[Davey Crockett]

CNN

Protests against Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) that kicked off in Los Angeles on Friday have since sparked similar protests in various cities around the US – some of which have broadened into protests against the Trump administration.

Here’s where they’re taking place:

• New York: Large crowds marched through Manhattan for hours on Tuesday, and remained peaceful for most of the day. But things escalated in the evening, with clashes between police and protesters who had gathered near the building housing New York’s ICE office. Videos showed protesters on the ground as police tried to handcuff them, while other demonstrators threw water bottles at officers.

• Chicago: Protesters also clashed with police in the Windy City on Tuesday, with videos showing tense confrontations between officers and a shouting crowd. Video from CNN affiliate WBBM showed a car plowing through the crowd, appearing to clip pedestrians holding signs, and a cyclist. The car did not stop, and sped away from the demonstration. It is unclear if the driver was arrested following the incident and what their intentions were by driving into the crowd.
• Texas: Protests popped up in several cities. Police in Austin declared a protest an unlawful gathering on Monday, later using tear gas and arresting 13 people. Dallas also saw a tense standoff between protesters and police on Monday. Meanwhile in San Antonio, hundreds gathered outside City Hall on Sunday for a peaceful protest. But ahead of more protests planned this week, Gov. Greg Abbott announced he was deploying the Texas National Guard to several locations in the state.
• San Francisco: Two immigration courts in the San Francisco Bay Area closed on Tuesday afternoon due to protests, according to a source familiar with the situation. Video from CNN affiliate KGO showed protesters outside the court, chanting on a picket line. Activists told the Associated Press several arrests were made though it wasn’t immediately clear what agency made the arrests. The San Francisco Police Department said it made no arrests outside the building.
• Denver: Anti-ICE protesters gathered in Denver, Colorado, and marched along thoroughfares, with police eventually blocking streets behind them, according to the AP. A spokesperson from the Denver Police Department told CNN they had not deployed any tear gas, contrary to some reports.
• Other cities: Other protests have also taken place in Santa Ana, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Seattle, and Washington, DC.

 

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[KingQamaR]

They are going to get pull by the court very soon

Newsome already lodged a court case, I don't see how the POTUS can activate troop when there is not an insurrection. You can't deploy US MIlitary inside the US unless it's section 12406.

The Marine is outright violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, I don't think the activation of the guard is legal too. Unless the US is being invaded, you need the governor approval to use the National Guard and the President cannot use them because if he is, they (The National Guard) would become part of US Army, which is the military

I have read Trump is making this issue worse. According to what Im reading. The deployment of national guards should have come from the request of the Governor first?

 

[Developereo]

I have read Trump is making this issue worse. According to what Im reading. The deployment of national guards should have come from the request of the Governor first?

A federal judge has blocked Newsome's motion against Trump and allowed the National Guard to continue operations.

When federal agents are physically attacked in the course of their duty by people waving another country's flag and the state can not or will not protect the federal agents, then things get interesting.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

I have read Trump is making this issue worse. According to what Im reading. The deployment of national guards should have come from the request of the Governor first?

For both you and j_hungary; precedence for this action is on the side of the President.

In the case of the 1967 riots in Detroit, then-President Johnson sent in elements of the 82nd and 101st. Most of these troops were just back from Vietnam. An older friend of mine was there.