Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

Only two countries getting excited about MDA not “working” , Israel and Iran . So are Israel and Iran on the same side now ?

They are of course not .

Israel wants the pact to work in the short term and for it to fail long term.

Iran wants the pact to fail in the short term but to work in the long term.

The pact knows this too and it’s organising to work in the long term and trying its best to not engage in the short term .

If you don’t understand what I just said then you won’t get it
 
The Saudi expectation from Turkey in this trilateral framework is about being supplied with NATO standard weapons without the baggage of buying French, British, US, German, Italians, Israeli baggage.
The bin Salman al Sauds have been far more closely aligned with the French, British, US, German, Italians, Israeli than Erdogan. In fact, after the Khashoggi episode, Erdogan was actively trying to undermine MBS and was only forced to reverse course because of the economic crisis . And NATO standard weapons from these countries have long been easily available to the al Sauds and generally have superior track records and quality compared to what Turkiye can offer.

Turkey brings Tech, weaponry and NATO military expertise, the Saudis bring money and investment, and Pakistan the manpower and Nuclear Umbrella.
Pakistan's nuclear weapons are meant only for India and , in any case, will never be used against a non nuclear Muslim country.
 
Great to see two mature and intelligent leaders walking hand in hand together..... this is a message to America that our friendship is soild and cannot be dictated by bullying...

Of course. Chabahar partners. Why do you think I have been mentioning Iran and India for the past few days? Iran and India are even closer than India and Israel. I have absolutely zero doubts about that.
 
Houthi issue cannot be resolved by bombing, sanctions or from the air. Needs 2-3 light infantry divisions and months of bloody close combat.

No one is willing to do that, that is the issue here
 
Of course. Chabahar partners. Why do you think I have been mentioning Iran and India for the past few days? Iran and India are even closer than India and Israel. I have absolutely zero doubts about that.

I used to think that, but I think Iran has reavaluated it's India relationship to a large extent
 
Houthi issue cannot be resolved by bombing, sanctions or from the air. Needs 2-3 light infantry divisions and months of bloody close combat.

No one is willing to do that, that is the issue here

Absolutely. The Houthis arent disappearing by a few rounds of aerial bombardment.

Neverthless, if we look at the bigger picture, Houthis are absolutely needed against Israel. Make no mistaks, Israel has been itching to have a go at the Houthis in the last few days. I don't know what has stopped them thus far.

The Indians can jump up and down in this discussion, but at the end of the day Houthis will come to haunt them too. India is after all a firm partner of Israel.
 
I used to think that, but I think Iran has reavaluated it's India relationship to a large extent

Iran will always need the likes of Russia, China and India. They are major buyers of oil and gas. However, Iran and India share a very special relationship. I am told that it is a civilisational kind of relationship.
 

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