Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[flyingorca]

Mecca structure/building/business and its surroundings (objects which existed before Islam and were visited by pagans) are not more important than the lives of Yemeni and Palestinian children. Anyways AnsarAllah as muslims respect Mecca and medina.

Do you even realize what you are saying? Kabba is in mecca and at one point it was a place of worship for pagans.. are you suggesting that it is not important?
And where did Palestinian children come from in Saudi Yemen conflict discussion? Iran and its proxy has caused more harm for Palestine cause then it has done any good. Since Iran and Houthis attacks, Israel has not only retained its occupied territories from Palestinians but also gained more territories not only from Palestine but also Lebanon. They act as Israel's controlled opponents. Israel Air Force is the main component of its bombardment of Palestine and other muslim nations. How many of its air force assets has Iran targeted that deterred Israel and made Iran worthy of the title that Iran is the only hope?

 

[flyingorca]

 

[Oublious]

If KSA want to clean it, ther is no other option then land operations. Look to the Turkish operations in Norht Iraq and Syria in 40 years. Nobody is going to fight for you. Ther is no difference with man with sliders with khat and commies like the pkk.

 

[hasn2009]

 

[Starlord]

If the assertions in the following video regarding the RSAF F-15 downing is true, it's more than pathetic! Not only their platforms are compromised, the training is intentionally organized to be a garbage case! I am pretty sure a PAF pilot on an F-7 would have put a poles-apart performance! No wonder the Misak-i Mekka has put them into a panic mode...

Confirmed! Saudi F-15 Shot Down | Insane Houthi Air Defense Footage | Defence Outpost​

Lets see how KSA will react to this, America already made a deal with Houthis to let their and Israel's ships pass, most likely via UAE mediation. So KSA is slowly running out of options.

 

[Oscar]

Very shameful behaviour if this is indeed true. Shows the two faced nature of Pakistani Army Generals in general. At one level talking about Palestine and supporting their brothers and sisters there, and at the same time giving money to their occupiers, their oppressors and now their genociders...

Welcome to actually running a state and not some lalaland based on your political alignment or wishful thinking.

Please confirm that you also want to apply the same moral accusations to your prophet who bought supplies and arms from Banu Qurayza while they were also plotting against him which he was aware of. He did not need to bless them, trust them, or convert them to take the tools that were required for that immediate need.

This is the most principled individual that has or ever will live and he knew statecraft and how to apply it. Meanwhile your rant against GHQ(many of the current ones were not even captains at that time) when your top jets were grounded because Afghanistan returned to its shithole status and your mortal enemy was planning various moves - your own ikhwan helped set up those relationships so your defense could be ensured.

Statecraft is statecraft - principles depend upon the individuals and no one should be childish enough to assume that those sitting in GHQ and other places are even close to being as principled as our Prophet. But if he knew what hands to play where - then there are consideration even the bumbling fools that have run the country for 70 odd years can also play.

Hazrat Abu Bakr allowed a former "prophet" and his followers after the Ridda campaign to fight against Syrians because numbers were needed - please throw the same accusations against him as well.

 

[Starlord]

Welcome to actually running a state and not some lalaland based on your political alignment or wishful thinking.

Please confirm that you also want to apply the same moral accusations to your prophet who bought supplies and arms from Banu Qurayza while they were also plotting against him which he was aware of. He did not need to bless them, trust them, or convert them to take the tools that were required for that immediate need.

This is the most principled individual that has or ever will live and he knew statecraft and how to apply it. Meanwhile your rant against GHQ(many of the current ones were not even captains at that time) when your top jets were grounded because Afghanistan returned to its shithole status and your mortal enemy was planning various moves - your own ikhwan helped set up those relationships so your defense could be ensured.

Statecraft is statecraft - principles depend upon the individuals and no one should be childish enough to assume that those sitting in GHQ and other places are even close to being as principled as our Prophet. But if he knew what hands to play where - then there are consideration even the bumbling fools that have run the country for 70 odd years can also play.

Hazrat Abu Bakr allowed a former "prophet" and his followers after the Ridda campaign to fight against Syrians because numbers were needed - please throw the same accusations against him as well.

You may find it surprising but a lot of people will throw Prophet and Abu Bakr RA under the bus for the same reason you mentioned. More recent examples one can give that Iran helping US invading Iraq and destroying the Saddam's govt.

 

[RocketLaw]

English Translation:
Saudi Arabia doesn't understand technology, but Saudi Arabia respects technology

 

[Oscar]

So the muslims in question - have not been violent against muslims as well?
Just confirming that is known as a fact that this X poster(whoever he is) could even testify on Qayamah for?

In 2013 the Houhis massacring people at Dammaj were not muslims?
Them cutting people down on the road were not muslims?
No one is giving Riyadh a clean check but this is a proxy war using the people of Yemen - lets not go into sensationalist ideals because somehow political anger is now combined with sectarian alignment with Iran.

Same way, people should apply this aimless anger at their Prophet (صَلَّى ٱللَّٰهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ) who is hopefully more revered and exalted in the eyes of certain muslims than Khomeni I hope. After the conquest of Makkah he went for Taif - but found it well protected and likely would have taken severe losses with his current forces so instead of losing them(to quote this stupid X post "lift a pinky") he chose to not engage at that time and eventually he had Taif so isolated they walked in for a deal.

Once again, the MOST PRINCIPLED HUMAN BEING ON EARTH FOR WHOM ANGELS FIGHT - chose not to create needless losses.

That doesnt mean the GCC leadership isnt compromised by this world and zionist plays of money and power, nor does it mean Pakistanis are not.. nor does it mean the Mullahs in Iran dont have their own interests including monetary.

It means, you are given examples of knowing when and where to employ military strength and how to build it up. And if you suspect your leaders are on the payroll of an outside power and all you can do is talk about it - sucks to be you - not them.

 

[Oscar]

You may find it surprising but a lot of people will throw Prophet and Abu Bakr RA under the bus for the same reason you mentioned. More recent examples one can give that Iran helping US invading Iraq and destroying the Saddam's govt.

People will do anything rather than use logic.
People do throw companions under the bus on much more trivial matters - passing judgements on them 1500 years later.
People put their current leaders under a bus as if somehow everyone who sits in power is capable of "Kun" once an idea comes to mind.

People will find all sorts of excuses to actually plan out changes they want to see in their state and government because at the end, it is NOT ABOUT THAT CHANGE being impossible but that the effort associated with it is boring, tedious and requires thoughts that are best reserved for other activities.

The problem isnt that the Makkah alliance is DoA because of these events or that Riyadh would rather fight Iran than Israel - the problem is we have opinions from within bubbles that assume that everyone else is capable of the best - principle decisions everywhere while they themselves are excused of it.

 

[Abdul q]

Certain group of Yemenis brought this situation to themselves which is a Iranian proxie. They are no different then TTP which is back by Afghanistan and their ideology aligns with each other against Pakistan. Iran would do exactly the same as Saudis are doing against Houthis if Saudia props up its proxy at Iranian border. Iran had issues with Iraqi Sunni government and were happy with American backed Shia government.
Replace Holy city with what? Khat muncher druggies? Or red light district cult? You need to read a thing or two about religious reforms Iranian mullah regime introduced which is the very reason why alot of Iranians hate Islam. Or try to advocate non shia Islam as alternative to current IRGC and see what happens to you.
Like I said, Iran is just Israel's controlled opponents.

Right maybe some off topic shyt just to make my point… who’s proxy was Talibunnies? Who’s proxy were ISIS??? Its way more complicated than you think…