Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

YouTube rabbit hole nonsense.

Present what you quoted nonsense or just move along... everyone is a YouTuber these days..

The Americans don't need the same physical presence as much due to a plethora of cultivated assets and technology

Did or didn't they?
Where is fifth fleet?
Centcom?
Another troll with an ego!

Zion, as you say, control's middle Eastern technology architecture, they are more omnipresent than ever, there are a range of capabilities which mitigate the need for physical presence, or the same presence

Then have them move to poland... why bother...

This is a controlled exit on their terms, Iran is left degraded, Saudi is left exposed militarily and Israel still runs the region's tech.

Controlled pre or post war?
Iran is where it was...
Controlled exit is taking shape...

To negate USA presence you need to reboot institutions, military equipment financing and that takes time, decades, house of al Saud or whoever might replace them can't do diddly even if you imagine they get toppled, unless you want to raise everything to the ground and hope that you can rebuild from scratch.

Not by being a client state is perhaps the first prerequisite.

Suez canal was not natural geography

Other side of bab el Mandeb...
Became indispensable for Europe circumventing the need of cape of good hope...
Just as Panama canal for US... and later global trade.

If Iran compels the rest of the world to solutionise around the strait's they will, or Iran may face another round of attacks that compel it to another course.

Iran is facing another round of attacks!

The solution that Mileikowsky offers orange clown is nukes!
As I said... the question is autonomy at what cost for Iran... the higher the cost... higher imposed!

What did you think..... Iran will indefinitely hold global trade to hostage perpetually, earning tolls and enjoy market access?

Talking nonsense again!
Hostage to geography!
Remember Europe circumnavigated Africa to the ports in Indian Ocean and found Americas!
These ports were in the hands of Portuguese... facts on the ground remained... trade for as long as it could found alternatives... today they seek to open arctic and Russia sits right in the middle.
The collective needs unimpeded access to the colonies... outside of heartland powers.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Your naivety is enchanting...
USA made the plan to roll back from region some while ago...Iran was the last hurdle in her roll back plan ... after neutralising Iran there's no hurdle left... MDA will take over the security of the region and Iran will be the joker of region.... lesson 101 in realpolitik.

It is good to get these laughs...
The whole neocon project "A Clean Break" was devised to integrate zion and remove US presence in the long run.
You're too clever by half! The shutt down of bases posthumously cannot be attributed to planned exist per pre set goals.
Keep watching!

 

[mythbuster]

It is good to get these laughs...
The whole neocon project "A Clean Break" was devised to integrate zion and remove US presence in the long run.
You're too clever by half! The shutt down of bases posthumously cannot be attributed to planned exist per pre set goals.
Keep watching!

What do you think how much more love Iran can handle ?

 

[muhammed45]

Reports are emerging that Pakistan has deployed 30,000 troops to KSA.

Can anyone confirm?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

What do you think how much more love Iran can handle ?

You tell me ... for those who learnt to troll Russia for three day operation got one straight from clowns mouth... an excursion at sea.
Now he's talking about a ground invasion...
I think you have a better idea than I do

 

[r3alist]

Did or didn't they?
Where is fifth fleet?
Centcom?
Another troll with an ego

FFS, simpleton level, they control technology architecture, likely more than we know, all the weapons are American, probably kill switches, they control me region digitally and electromagnetically, what era you living .... about soldiers, you don't even understand your own imagined liberation struggle which is comical and tragedy


And if you want Israel to be regional hegemon Saudi will accept from position of weakness, why did Iran attack Saudi and change it's calculus that much?

It's looking like a good plan that Iran is facilitating .... To harm everyone.

Then have them move to poland... why bother.

So when will Iran achieve it?
Answer this

Controlled pre or post war?
Iran is where it was...
Controlled exit is taking shape...

It's not where it was, you think it hasn't taken damage?

Not by being a client state is perhaps the first prerequisite.

Who isn't a client state explain ...oh wait you don't even know your own liberation parameters

Other side of bab el Mandeb..

Geography can be adapted, happening all the time, if the consensus is there it could

The solution that Mileikowsky offers orange clown is nukes!

So finish the thought, you want to tempt that, ....... but then what will you post about if that happens huh?

Keep telling everyone....but but house of al Saud....I watched a documentary you know


Iran has extended a war, that has weakened everyone collectively , it has not won diddly, Israel is more ambitious than ever, Iran if anyone is stepping back.

Your house al saud blahbblah implies you want Iran to reign over a kingdom of ashes.

Hostage to geography!

No, not indefinitely

 

[Watandar]

Reports are emerging that Pakistan has deployed 30,000 troops to KSA.

Can anyone confirm?

Pakistan deployed 13k in Gulf War I to Saudi, so the 30k figure looks exaggerated. Reports are between 4k to 8k troops are in Saudi Arabia.

 

[r3alist]

Your naivety is enchanting...
USA made the plan to roll back from region some while ago...Iran was the last hurdle in her roll back plan ... after neutralising Iran there's no hurdle left... MDA will take over the security of the region and Iran will be the joker of region.... lesson 101 in realpolitik.

It's what grand strategy is, decisive course changes

Even better if you get fools to believe they won with no agency along the way

Was Afghanistan exit a great victory for the afghans or a decisive choice to change course....btw the afghans are begging the Americans for some of that aid and institutional support

This guy needs a few centcom structures to go and the American fleets somewhere else..... Great victory


Then what...... Tumble weed

 

[PK781]

Those foolish Saudis! They have absolutely no idea how to fight a war!

If they keep this up, they will only hasten their own disastrous defeat!

Disclaimer!
I do not support or oppose either side; I am simply analyzing and studying the art of war.

When all the sides are foolish and playing right into the hands of the zionists plans, and giving it to them on a platter.......what else can be said?

We're now looking at greater ME war, and this will turn into disaster when all the infrastructure is targetted and destroyed. It will also end the petrodollar and end the empire in the process. The americans are again bringing their war machines and naval strike groups into the area. Go figure why they even need to be here.

the zionists will win with this as they will achieve total control on mideast. Everyone else will be losers, and that's including iran.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

FFS, simpleton level, they control technology architecture, likely more than we know, all the weapons are American, probably kill switches, they control me region digitally and electromagnetically, what era you living .... about soldiers, you don't even understand your own imagined liberation struggle which is comical and tragedy

Kid... please!
They have been supplied munitions, which their own American supplied jets can't carry... they lack the simple capacity of attacking Iran without US support EVERY STEP OF THE WAY!
They have niche technologies and buddy investments from US based technology companies or investments to prop up certain sectors.
Their interceptors alone took billions in US investment to prop up...
So when you start lifting balls at least know who's!

And if you want Israel to be regional hegemon Saudi will accept from position of weakness, why did Iran attack Saudi and change it's calculus that much?

Kid again! Saudis ARE IN THE POSITION OF WEAKNESS... they couldn't stop US from holding their territory ransom from an INVASION US INSTIGATED ON BEHALF OF ZION!

It's looking like a good plan that Iran is facilitating .... To harm everyone.

Yeh...
They brought it upon themselves... got decapitated .. ONLY TWICE... LOST THE SUPREME LEADER ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY... Where the alternative now wouldn't have even survived.

You kidding me kid!
The ones retroactively pushing punchlines are the worst trolls!

So when will Iran achieve it?
Answer this

We both here, ain't we?
It only matters till that point.

It's not where it was, you think it hasn't taken damage?

That was a response to you point...
Another too clever by half...
Of course dude.

Who isn't a client state explain ...oh wait you don't even know your own liberation parameters

Don't patronize me kid!
If you can't understand move along!

Geography can be adapted, happening all the time, if the consensus is there it could

East west pipeline was that alternative...
It wasn't even Iran that took it out...

So finish the thought, you want to tempt that, ....... but then what will you post about if that happens huh?

Keep telling everyone....but but house of al Saud....I watched a documentary you know


Iran has extended a war, that has weakened everyone collectively , it has not won diddly, Israel is more ambitious than ever, Iran if anyone is stepping back.

Your house al saud blahbblah implies you want Iran to reign over a kingdom of ashes.

Another nugget!

Who attacked whom?

Did the mission succeed... at least keep your line of thought in tact. Iran was attacked from all such...

No, not indefinitely

Keep working at it...
That would require you doing something other than parade for zion!

 

[r3alist]

When all the sides are foolish and playing right into the hands of the zionists plans, and giving it to them on a platter.......what else can be said?

We're now looking at greater ME war, and this will turn into disaster when all the infrastructure is targetted and destroyed. It will also end the petrodollar and end the empire in the process. The americans are again bringing their war machines and naval strike groups into the area. Go figure why they even need to be here.

the zionists will win with this as they will achieve total control on mideast. Everyone else will be losers, and that's including iran.

The petrodollar will be replaced by a new digital one, petrol itself is vulnerable to electric car proliferation.

In order for Saudis to keep what they have they might need to accept, this might happen but improbable now unless they keep getting pushed

The houthis are glorified...who wants to live in Yemen, the Iranians themselves don't, they value civilisation and improvement of their society

America and Iran both have a grand strategy using pawns

 

[El Sidd]

The Yemeni government should officially invite the alliance in her liberation efforts.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Reports are emerging that Pakistan has deployed 30,000 troops to KSA.

Can anyone confirm?

30k troops is too large a number to deploy without more news etc(imho) reports, even in a media controlled (via GHQ) society like Pakistan. That is a very very large number of soldiers ?

There were some reports of PAF IL-76's being spotted in Saudi via flight tracker etc and it was thought at the time, that was due to providing refuelling services to JF17's that were deployed there.

So, could some more troops have been moved covertly via PAF IL-76's ? It is possible of course but i am not convinced yet.

 

[gamaji]

I apologize ma'am... you weren't clear enough.

Go ma'am, make 'em all cry!

I am sure you'll be crying in near future when Iran's terrorist proxies are done with and terrorist Iranian mullahs start getting their assh kicked.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I am sure you'll be crying in near future when Iran's terrorist proxies are done with and terrorist Iranian mullahs start getting their assh kicked.

Make me cry Ma'am!