Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[gamaji]

Those foolish Saudis! They have absolutely no idea how to fight a war!

If they keep this up, they will only hasten their own disastrous defeat!

Disclaimer!
I do not support or oppose either side; I am simply analyzing and studying the art of war.

Do you consider fighting terrorists who serve as proxies to Iranian mullahs is wrong? Creating state within a state has rightly been globally rejected.

Also, what if these terrorists become strong enough to really capable of chocking global trade? Is it better to root them out and dismantle them now or wait until they become really stronger.

Don't think Houthis will keep serving only Iranian mullahs. Proxies are ever ready to serve whoever throws a bone to them. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel and others start arming Houthis to choke Chinese trade with Europe.

 

[r3alist]

Our wise old man believes by supporting the underdog he will become wise old lion

How will the region reflect on this in year to come, unless you get total victory and then write history yourself

Well I enjoyed it nonetheless...

You'll get over it...

Peace

Tehranis will take a sigh of relief and welcome MDA as liberators ....btw , I have been to Tehran , beautiful and cultured people.....way better than Arabs

I can't take away from Iranian their architecture, intellect and sense of aesthetic

 

[mythbuster]

Do you consider fighting terrorists who serve as proxies to Iranian mullahs is wrong? Creating state within a state has rightly been globally rejected.

Also, what if these terrorists become strong enough to really capable of chocking global trade? Is it better to root them out and dismantle them now or wait until they become really stronger.

Don't think Houthis will keep serving only Iranian mullahs. Proxies are ever ready to serve whoever throws a bone to them. I wouldn't be surprised if Israel and others start arming Houthis to choke Chinese trade with Europe.

Chinese are playing safe by playing both sides....if push comes to shove they will ditch Iran in a jiffy.

 

[r3alist]

Chinese are playing safe by playing both sides....if push comes to shove they will ditch Iran in a jiffy.

What an incredible run china has been on post 911

Quietly develop your entire digital civilizational architecture whilst everyone else can't catch a breath up in flames, keep at a safe distance

Pakistan put Chinese weapons on the map in the most meaningful way

 

[Broghil]

Cut this crap , Iran has been run over many times in her history and your exaggerated natural fortress mumbo jumbo could never protect her .

Mongols, temur, Muslims etc etc. it's not like Alexander was the only one to do it.

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

A great overall post, thoughtful

I don't know how this fits








Exactly, unless they are planning to ingress into Iranian decision making

Imran Khan was pro Russia but after coup and arresting him, Pakistani generals are extremely pro West without benefiting their people

Saudi Arabia is a najdi regime created by Islam hater Jews

 

[Master Chief]

Those foolish Saudis! They have absolutely no idea how to fight a war!

If they keep this up, they will only hasten their own disastrous defeat!

Disclaimer!
I do not support or oppose either side; I am simply analyzing and studying the art of war.

The Saudis definitely don't. They are clearly incompetent. However, if Pakistan or Turkiye leads the operation, Houthis will soon find themselves very hard pressed.

 

[gamaji]

A great overall post, thoughtful

I don't know how this fits








Exactly, unless they are planning to ingress into Iranian decision making

This world is more treacherous than it looks. Countries support each other to serve even their small interests. They seem supporting a country to serve a specific interest while working against the same country to serve another interest. Many powers have grievances against Pakistan.

• Russians probably haven't forgotten how they were defeated in Afghanistan by 'Afghan mujahideen'.
• US and Europeans haven't forgotten their defeat in Afghanistan by 'Afghan Taliban' either.
• Shah's Iran was a blessing for the region. But Iran's Ibleesi mullahs, after ceasing the control in 1979, started implementing an evil policy of creating terrorist proxies in regional countries, including Pakistan, to work as state within a state. Pakistan has not seen an extended period of peace after that. These shaitani mullahs developed deep-rooted covert cooperation with Indian RAW and other regional goons (Afghanistan, UAE, etc.) to create huge terrorist networks for launching terrorist attacks in Pakistan.
• The UAE Bedouins saw the CPEC project as a strategic threat to their own national interests. Even before, UAE played a huge dirty role in pushing Karachi to become a lawless city. The UAE has been and still is serving as a global hub for money laundering and terrorist masterminds since very long. When Pakistanis were going wave after wave to UAE for building the modern institutions and cities for those filthy Bedouins, those evils were busy devastating Pakistani cities.
• Afghanistan is a hostile state for Pakistan since 1947. Its rulers/kings willingly acted as poodles for Pakistan's enemies since then. When Afghanistan's king realized the futility of Afghan policies decided to normalize relation with Pakistan, he was killed and communist puppets installed in Kabul with eventual USSR invasion in Dec. 1979. Since then Pakistan directly faced global powers, one after the other, in Afghanistan that invaded and occupied that country with goals to disintegrate Pakistan in order to server their global designs. As stated above, Pakistan was able to repeatedly turn the table on those hostile powers and forced them leave Afghanistan in disgrace. Then after the current Taliban regime's control over Kabul in 2021, Afghanistan once again became an overt enemy of Pakistan. The ultra-modern weapons, guns, ammo, etc. left in Afghanistan by retreating foreign forces was not by mistake. It was by design. Hindutva terrorists and Zionist war criminals (along with some Bedouins) are reportedly supporting the terrorists active in Pakistan's Balochistan and KPK provinces.

Pakistan is facing, as always, multiple global and regional actors in its war on terrorism.

 

[Master Chief]

Ignore the actual point, what about financial digital and electromagnetic liberation? Clueless




That's what I said, Iran is making it worse by weakening Saudi, and what olden wisdom is there to push Saudi further, will you celebrate Iranian victory then

Iran has been preparing for this war for decades, for hegemony



No they didn't attack Iran



When will Iran confront and beat "Zion"?



You don't need me for that


Enjoy your kingdom of ashes with an Iranian flag over it.

The anti religion lobby in Iran is waiting for its moment

Very rational and logical.

Folks just haven't learned that you cannot undo an empire by throwing human bodies at it.

Iran must urgently reassess its approach.

As for the Houthis, they are pissing in the wind, achieving nothing whatsoever of substance and wasting everyone's time and resources in the process. They maintain their non-aggression pact with USA in the Red Sea, yet we are told they are the eternal barhadari of justice and the only chance the Palestinians have.

 

[Mutakalim]

What potential historical record do you have of muslim collectiveness on identity or issues - heck - even go back 1000 years.. that you can call it "backstabbing muslims"?

Obviously, there is no such thing as Muslim collectiveness or Muslim identity. However, there is a phenomenon of collective intellectual servitude among our Angrezi-educated class.

As far as the potential historical record is concerned, scholars like Faisal Warraich, Syed Muzammil, Hassan Ilyas, and obviously Hamza Ali Abbasi are in complete agreement that, historically, Muslims never acted collectively. For example, the defeat and, ultimately, the complete annihilation of the Crusader city states in Levant was purely an Arab effort. The futile Turkish effort to stem the tide of Portuguese expansion in the Indian Ocean has nothing to do with Muslim identity; instead, the Turks and some local Indian rulers were cooperating with each other in pursuit of their respective self interests.

There are lots of other examples, but we shouldn't bother ourselves with this 1,400-year-old idea of Muslim identity. Instead, we should promote our Pakhtoon, Muhajir, Arain, Jatt, Lahori, etc. identities. Let us strive hard for Warraichistan!

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

... The one thing I am unsure is if this Mecca pact 10-years too late or 10-years too early to make any difference in the region.

So far, the Makkah Defence Alliance is only 58 days into its existence. Give it a few years before passing judgment on what it can or cannot achieve.

It’s like the IRGC fanatics who predicted America’s downfall by June 2026 after Iran fired a few hundred missiles. Now they’re clutching at straws, pinning their hopes on Donald Trump losing the US midterms. At the same time, the fear is growing that, no matter who wins, Iran will face annihilation.

 

[r3alist]

Imran Khan was pro Russia but after coup and arresting him, Pakistani generals are extremely pro West without benefiting their people

Saudi Arabia is a najdi regime created by Islam hater Jews

This is what's left to say.

Najdi is not a perjorative, it's a name for a region

And why should Iranian ethno nationalism represent islam any better

 

[r3alist]

This world is more treacherous than it looks. Countries support each other to serve even their small interests. They seem supporting a country to serve a specific interest while working against the same country to serve another interest. Many powers have grievances against Pakistan.

I think the India factor and Iran factor is pushing this

Indians have no open doors left in the West, iran is working closely with Russia and both will seemingly go to some lengths to coopt India, for trade, resurrect chabahar, oppose Makkah agreement, so perhaps the Russians are trying to win over the Indian

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

... Saudis keep getting back in a position to stab Muslims in the back because of Islam and custodian card. ...

Nah. That's what Iran under Octopus Suleimani with his Terror Tentacles have been doing so proudly in the Arab and the Muslim World.

 

[mythbuster]

So far, the Makkah Defence Alliance is only 58 days into its existence. Give it a few years before passing judgment on what it can or cannot achieve.

It’s like the IRGC fanatics who predicted America’s downfall by June 2026 after Iran fired a few hundred missiles. Now they’re clutching at straws, pinning their hopes on Donald Trump losing the US midterms. At the same time, the fear is growing that, no matter who wins, Iran will face annihilation.

" Give it a few years" ....
Wtf man? Are you somewhere in a time capsule? .... it's a matter of few days.