Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

Yasser76 said:
Was on the cards I think, we are basically helping to fight Iranian proxies in Yeman, so relationship may well start cooling
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The Iran Pakistan relationship is on a downward slope. I think it is better for Iran to focus on their Chabahar partners India and Afghanistan.

Pakistan needs to go all in with Saudi Arabia.

There shouldn't be any ambiguity where every side stands.
 
K2RULEZ said:
The Iran Pakistan relationshis is on a downward slope. I think it is better for Iran to focus on their Chabahar relationship with India and Afghanistan.
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Yup, they start something crazy I think this time we just lob a tactical nuke on one of their desert bases, then promise them we will do it again if just one Iranian missile enters Pakistan.

Only language Persians understand
 
K2RULEZ said:
The Iran Pakistan relationship is on a downward slope
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Pakistans diplomatic efforts were frenzied to avoid this.

Iranians show no wiggle to other nations sensitivities , it seems like it

Still care and effort must be taken to stop it getting worse


Listen to this eloquent lady

 
K2RULEZ said:
The Iran Pakistan relationship is on a downward slope. I think it is better for Iran to focus on their Chabahar partners India and Afghanistan.

Pakistan needs to go all in with Saudi Arabia.

There shouldn't be any ambiguity where every side stands.
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Iran will cozy up hard with India, and to Taliban once the war with Iran is over... MDA will survive and people will continue to mock it, but to keep it from growing you can expect a much closer ties between India/Iran and probably behind the scene will be our good ol cun* Emirati's who will have full dicreet support of Chosen people. I fear that Iran will fully start supporting Taliban by offering a free/secure passage of high end systems like Drones, rockets and even short range missiles which Indians are eager to provide to Afghanistan.
 
Starlord said:
Iran will cozy up hard with India, and to Taliban once the war with Iran is over... MDA will survive and people will continue to mock it, but to keep it from growing you can expect a much closer ties between India/Iran and probably behind the scene will be our good ol cun* Emirati's who will have full dicreet support of Chosen people. I fear that Iran will fully start supporting Taliban by offering a free/secure passage of high end systems like Drones, rockets and even short range missiles which Indians are eager to provide to Afghanistan.
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This would be consistent and you wonder any planning to consider this


They may not even wait until the end


Sworn enemies can therefore become convenient partner's and everyone is reaching around for new avenues, whatever Pakistan does or doesn't do they are considered USA proxy,or Arab
 
Starlord said:
Iran will cozy up hard with India, and to Taliban once the war with Iran is over... MDA will survive and people will continue to mock it, but to keep it from growing you can expect a much closer ties between India/Iran and probably behind the scene will be our good ol cun* Emirati's who will have full dicreet support of Chosen people. I fear that Iran will fully start supporting Taliban by offering a free/secure passage of high end systems like Drones, rockets and even short range missiles which Indians are eager to provide to Afghanistan.
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If they so wish, let it be.

We as Pakistanis shouldnt give a damn about iranians or afghanis unless reciprocated. Im a firm believer of ummah, but sometimes there isnt anything left but fight your own brothers to knock some sense into their peanut size brains.

As far as the jews or pagans are concerned, its a battle that'll last till the last ray of sunshine on earth so it doesnt surprise me when they come up with new plans every now and then.
 
r3alist said:
Sworn enemies can therefore become convenient partner's and everyone is reaching around for new avenues, whatever Pakistan does or doesn't do they are considered USA proxy,or Arab
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By this definition Iran has been a proxy of isreal in conjuction with india agaisnt us.

Proxy that, proxy this if you fire at us we will fire back, othertwise this discussion wont end ever.
 
r3alist said:
This would be consistent and you wonder any planning to consider this


They may not even wait until the end


Sworn enemies can therefore become convenient partner's and everyone is reaching around for new avenues, whatever Pakistan does or doesn't do they are considered USA proxy,or Arab
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Yes, Iran does have friendly relation with Pakistan but also have played a active role in supporting BLA, providing support to Baluch separatists with help of India, and now despite Indians literally showing them middle finger to Iranians they will once against cozy up to India for some after the war investments. If Iran indeed did that then i would lose all respect for them, because Indians did not utter a word when 100's of Iranian sailors were ambushed and killed, Under US pressure Indian navy didn't even go to help the drowning sailors. Also Indians played a huge role in spying for Iranian critical locations which was provided to Israel.

Unfortunately Iranians are seeing this whole thing with a sectarian lense, and they are mainly blinded by nationalism and hardcore Sectarianism, so I am expecting them to be more active against Pakistan, via Afghanistan.
 
Starlord said:
Yes, Iran does have friendly relation with Pakistan but also have played a active role in supporting BLA, providing support to Baluch separatists with help of India, and now despite Indians literally showing them middle finger to Iranians they will once against cozy up to India for some after the war investments. If Iran indeed did that then i would lose all respect for them, because Indians did not utter a word when 100's of Iranian sailors were ambushed and killed, Under US pressure Indian navy didn't even go to help the drowning sailors. Also Indians played a huge role in spying for Iranian critical locations which was provided to Israel.

Unfortunately Iranians are seeing this whole thing with a sectarian lense, and they are mainly blinded by nationalism and hardcore Sectarianism, so I am expecting them to be more active against Pakistan, via Afghanistan.
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When the rebel with a major gripe narrative suddenly gets power they don't know how to be temperate and over extend, and then take their supporters for granted when they have power

It's human nature and that's what is happening, your sacrifice is assumed a given, they expect a form of tribute

India Iran relations did not progress because of India not Iran

The Iranians pretend to scratch their heads wondering where is Gandhi's India feigning confusion, whilst every other nation is illegitimate and Muslim nations having relations with one another is British colonialism


 
Maea said:
If they so wish, let it be.

We as Pakistanis shouldnt give a damn about iranians or afghanis unless reciprocated. Im a firm believer of ummah, but sometimes there isnt anything left but fight your own brothers to knock some sense into their peanut size brains.

As far as the jews or pagans are concerned, its a battle that'll last till the last ray of sunshine on earth so it doesnt surprise me when they come up with new plans every now and then.
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Well Ummah has treated Pakistan poorly, and we have done the same... better focus on our own country, fix economy, make alliances, and if Iranians or Emirati's do try to arm and support terrorists like Taliban or BLA then repay them in kind.
 
Maea said:
By this definition Iran has been a proxy of isreal in conjuction with india agaisnt us.

Proxy that, proxy this if you fire at us we will fire back, othertwise this discussion wont end ever.
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So reconsider thr downward spiral... those firing
 
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