Makkah Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[KingQamaR]

Mecca Pact membership with Syria should not even be discussed whilst there is a conflict, with Israel. Mecca Pact needs to think about what Syrian borders alliance is willing to defend ?

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

build the syrian army to a point where the Turkish military will no longer need to remain there.

That is something that happens over generations... a switch cannot be flipped to level up Syria.

However, inclusion of Syria will, a). Stabilize Syria, b). Make it a focal point.

What you have to understand is the aggression faced by the core... each with their own. Turkiye has Zion/Greece... Pakistan faces zion/hindutva and Saudis face a whole host of domestic and international security concerns... where they've essentially placated zion and the empire with fists full of money.

Agendas are not spawned out of blue... they're often cobbled together vectors confined in an envelope of convenience. Over time a native ecosystem will have to be built outside of established ones. Walk away from strings and knocked down kits at exorbitant costs... that means everything, infrastructure, communications, navigation, trade routes, logistics, training... on and on...

 

[Haz]

Syria is reportedly set to join the Mecca Pact. Hope it's true, not sure how that works with the current challenges we face with Israel though, seems like a big obstacle to maneuver around if it happens.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Syria is reportedly set to join the Mecca Pact. Hope it's true, not sure how that works with the current challenges we face with Israel though, seems like a big obstacle to maneuver around if it happens.

It is the only reason!
Syria simply cannot face zion alone. Though it makes Syria not only a flash point but the weakest link in the chain... but what is the alternative?

 

[retaxis]

Or maybe Turkey wants to use this as an excuse to test its military hardware against a real competitor like israel? Israel stealing land already so Turkey has no choice but to step in otherwise the pact would hold no meaning

 

[Ali_Baba]

Mecca Pact membership with Syria should not even be discussed whilst there is a conflict, with Israel. Mecca Pact needs to think about what Syrian borders alliance is willing to defend ?

There is no value in Syria joining the pact. Esp when none of the countries are willing to be proactive in removing Israeli occupation forces from Syria.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

There is no value in Syria joining the pact. Esp when none of the countries are willing to be proactive in removing Israeli occupation forces from Syria.

Status quo prognosis is negative...
Zion is arming militias in the south and settlers roam free...
The viability of the state itself is a question mark because Kurds will pounce on the first instance.

Which means, bringing Syria in will expose zion to front out instead of being underhanded it is now...
The essence of the pact remains stability in the larger region in the power vacuum due to exit of existing structures. Let's not give undue space to zion.

 

[Haz]

Really hope Egypt joins too, would be a great way to surround the pariah state and force them to split their focus and resources into two separate fronts instead of being concentrated all on one.

 

[Haz]

personally i think its too soon, Turkiye needs to gradually expand her military footprint across syria and in tandem build the syrian army to a point where the Turkish military will no longer need to remain there.

If they join now, then we have to accept all out war against isreal which right now i don't think is realistic. All out war now would play into Isrealis hands, the incremental and gradual process is how zionism will be defeated regionally. A hundred small steps rather then one big dive.

Honestly I was thinking the same thing. I would love to have Syria joined, but I expected it to be a decade from now after we properly built back our capabilities and the Pact has had a chance to formally solidify itself.

Seems a bit too much, too soon, but it could very well be that regional government have assessed that they just don't have that much time with how aggressive Israel has been the past couple years and how absolutely maniacal their leadership has become. They are openly calling everyone an enemy right now and have shown no reservation to attack any neighbour they wish to. Perhaps the regional leaders are anticipating this will only accelerate and get worse in the coming years, so they are forced to speed things up and try to unite the entire region before Israel picks off everyone one by one.

 

[KingQamaR]

There is no value in Syria joining the pact. Esp when none of the countries are willing to be proactive in removing Israeli occupation forces from Syria.

No country should be admitted to a Mecca Pact in the middle of an active war I'm
sorry! Mecca Pact is supposed to be a deterrent, and it cant be a deterrent if the war has already started. And what Government of Ankara and Riyadh thinking here . But I believe in the Mecca Pact organisation shouldn’t expand in any new members.

 

[Master Chief]

Honestly I was thinking the same thing. I would love to have Syria joined, but I expected it to be a decade from now after we properly built back our capabilities and the Pact has had a chance to formally solidify itself.

Seems a bit too much, too soon, but it could very well be that regional government have assessed that they just don't have that much time with how aggressive Israel has been the past couple years and how absolutely maniacal their leadership has become. They are openly calling everyone an enemy right now and have shown no reservation to attack any neighbour they wish to. Perhaps the regional leaders are anticipating this will only accelerate and get worse in the coming years, so they are forced to speed things up and try to unite the entire region before Israel picks off everyone one by one.

Sensible analysis.

Israel has quietly overrun parts of Lebanon while Iran seems unable to do anything about it. Syria is probably concerned of the same fate. Entry into the pact does seem reasonable for them - at the very least, to consolidate diplomatic and economic pressure on Tel Aviv.

Folks who are yapping about "kinetic actions saar!" tend to forget the peacetime benefits of such an arrangement. Plenty of levers can and should be pulled before firing a single bullet. Empires are built in this way.