Makkah Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Master Chief]

Yeah, that’s reasonable in theory. But the timing is a bit suspicious. And it’s a shame that Muslims could not unite in this way in response to a genocide.

An interesting perspective.

The Gaza genocide arose due to Hamas falling into Israel's trap. Iran, Hezbollah and others in the resistance axis were left scrambling and reacting as a result of this.

Israel-US attacking Iran this year was entirely of their own choosing. Some would argue that Tel Aviv has itself walked into a trap, by triggering the formation of the one thing it sought to avert - a sunni axis that extends well, indeed mainly, beyond the Arab world. Pakistan and Turkiye bring their own interests to this axis and this is now something Israel has to reckon with in its future calculations.

I would argue that Iran's own resilience and avoidance of a rapid collapse against its enemies have led others to believe that there are ways to fight against the hegemony of US-Israel in the middle east. Of course, the ambition must come from within. This event might be regarded as a first step towards that ambition.

 

[Trailer23]

fk the duffer who thought this is a good idea, I mean what we get the Saudis and Turks get a nuclear umbrella what do we get? Fking nothing.

Let me ask you something...

If we were to go to War with India (again)..., and this time if its a long one - how long do you think it would be before we ran out of fuel? That is where KSA comes in.

Have you seen the tech the Turks have...? Have you seen their long range missiles? Have you seen their latest drones?

You know..., I think we should bring back Imran Khan because only then will this deal look sweet to a number of Members.

I swear I (still) remember the days when IK used to go on Foreign Trips like to US & SAARC meetings. With all the music & cheap video effects.

"Daikho agaya"
"Dabang Entry"
"Khan chagaya"
"Melania fida hogae"

Today, the only people (in Pakistan) that are upset are the ones that are against the Military.

They can all F-OFF!!!

 

[Ali_Baba]

Best thing for Iran should be join the Mecca Pact.

Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Pakistan
Iran

Kaboom!

And then at last Egypt.

Here you have a Islamic Nato.

Türkiye and Iran have been the historical powers in the middle east, and you can't have any construct that does not involve these two countries and for it to last, I think in time Iran will join. I think, had this war not started, then with the ongoing China/Iran/Middle East mediation that was going on where Iran was being brought in from the cold, Iran would have been a founding member of the treaty.

 

[mulj]

Hmm... this wound was opened up by that same crowd. You'd hear that crowd describe it as such...

Saudis have the case of having the cake and eating it as well. And I do not think... You'd find Turkiye or Pakistan getting roped into the trenches in an endless war. The prince has lesson to learn here or have his lunch eaten.

However, should you see Yemen actually start rolling into Saudi territory... where lines collapse a deployment is possible only defensive in nature.

This pact is defensive... against an aggressor. I don't think anyone will be able to justify deployment into a third country as defensive. Second, the nature of expected collapse that ushered in this alliance is on the backs of having the empire rolling out of the region... Foreseeing a power vacuum... and lastly it has only been made possible by mellowing the stance of those very forces that split Muslims apart... who would've called and you'd find their legacy still calling them apostates... preferring to work with ones they call ... from the book... the forthright in the accepted realms. Standing tall on their historic faith... whose meats are permissible... a whole genre.

I don't think they feel safe with that lot anymore... not because they had an epiphany but they can see their future.

Never the less some

Come on, this is unreasonable because it sounds hegemonic

This is a balancing move against iran and deterrent to the rest, so they go ape causing instability in the region and the rest have no limits or interests?

You act like Iran is not capable of beautifully sucking up to the west ...they are and can





The Iranians 'mock" turkey and Pakistan because of their association with Western defensive agreements like NATO etc these were fully operational in place and serving a purpose before the revolution even happened

Yet the Iranians are not above sucking up post 911 to partner up..... enthusiastically, against the Taliban


Remember turkey and Saudi did not really lift a finger last 6 months, stayed level headed, the bases and operational agreements don't really count as a compelling reason

Call it whatever you like but some adjustments in foreign policies will have to be made if pact is meant to be something which can unify than some old romances and ties with west has to be cut off before they ask anything from Iran to act reasonably, why should they?

 

[Watandar]

Let me ask you something...

If we were to go to War with India (again)..., and this time if its a long one - how long do you think it would be before we ran out of fuel? That is where KSA comes in.

Have you seen the tech the Turks have...? Have you seen their long range missiles? Have you seen their latest drones?

You know..., I think we should bring back Imran Khan because only then will this deal look sweet to a number of Members.

I swear I (still) remember the days when IK used to go on Foreign Trips like to US & SAARC meetings. With all the music & cheap video effects.

"Daikho agaya"
"Dabang Entry"
"Khan chagaya"
"Melania fida hogae"

Today, the only people (in Pakistan) that are upset are the ones that are against the Military.

They can all F-OFF!!!

Please limit your Imran Khan obsession to the appropriate thread. We don't need to know he lives rent free in your head everywhere.

 

[PakAl]

If Iran attacks Turkey or Pakistan first, then it's a war of choice from Iranian side and Iran has to bare the responsibility.

For example if Iran takes side of Greece against Turkey or side of Afghanistan against Pakistan.

By taking sides I mean military attacks from Iran against Turkey if Turkey has a war against Greece or military attacks from Iran against Pakistan when Pakistan is fighting the Taliban or India. In these cases Iran is guilty and Pakistan or Turkey have the right to attack Iran.

NOW If Iran attacks or clashes with Ale-Saud and some third party attacks Iran, without Iran attacking them first, then the third party entered a war of choice against Iran and Iran has the right to respond fully against the source of the agression which is the third party.

But Ale Najd is playing dirty politics, they allow their airspace and bases to be used against Iran, but then cry foul when they are attacked by Iran. Bunch of hypocrites. Their blind followers scream when the chosen Najdi Kingdom is attacked but on purpose ignore the use of Ale Najd bases and airspace.

After Makkah pact, if Usa leaves the region, Saudia doesnt allow the use of their bases and airspace to attack fellow muslim nations, stops their policy of exporting extremism, fundamentalism and terrorism then we may see some peace in the region.

 

[Trailer23]

Please limit your Imran Khan obsession to the appropriate thread. We don't need to know he lives rent free in your head everywhere.

Looks like I struck a nerve with someone that is against the PAK Army.

Trust me, i'm not obsessed with that chutiya. His cult are the ones that are against Pakistan moving forward.

If it were up to you & your f#*king leader, he'd be shaking hands with the TTP, BLA, BLF etc.

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[Desprado123]

I am saying again Iran is never a Pakistan friend. They leaked nuclear details when Pakistan tried to give them in 2002. They will always backstab Pakistan and will choose India over Pakistan anyway. At least KSA is not dual face and it takes no side. Iran has always gone against Pakistan interest no need to repeat those it is documented prof not fantasy or assumption. In future when this settle and if same government remains still They will side with India no matter how much Pakistan please them.

 

[PakAl]

Western Wahhabi agent of chaos pointing fingers at others. Tell me who has destroyed Afghanistan, Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Yemen ?

That's right, daddy USA and its dedicated regional flunkies.

They play dirty games, first on purpose create threats of extremism, fundamentalism and terrorism by funding, training them then fight it themselves in order to get in to other nations, the overall aim to destroy, divide or regime change Muslim nations, if a ruler says no he/she will face the threat of extremism, fundamentalism, terrorism, until they submit.

 

[Pakistan First]

If India and Pakistan have another military 'skirmish', do Pakistanis now expect that Saudi Arabia, which has extensive trade relations with India, will openly and militarily support Pakistan against India?

It is not clear who this alliance is aimed at countering. It certainly isn't Israel, since 3 years of genocide against Sunni Muslims in Gaza did not result in this alliance.

Pakistan don't need anyone for mere a "skirmish". Also the defence Pact act as a deterrence. So unnecessary skirmish don't happen at first place. If its an all out attack / all out war on over any country then yes the other 2 will offer their help.

Secondly, I have explained it multiple times here and getting tired on it. Trade balance with a country means horseshit in strategic alliance. India and China has a Gigantic trade comparison to Pakistan and China. Yet Pakistan and China are strategically aligned / all weather solid allies, from weapons to strategic projects. You can find new buyers easily but you cannot find new strategic partners that easy.

Lastly, to all Iranians and pro-Iranians I have said this number of times that you shouldn't be concerned at all but actually happy that region for the first time in their recent history is taking initiative for their own defense instead asking US to be part of it. If Pakistan, SAudi and Turkey were really anti-Iran and making this pact just for Iran then why on earth we didn't participated in the war along with US. It was golden opportunity for us and be a good puppets (as some alleges). Why we are waiting for US to end war and leave and only then we will deal with Iran on our own ?? It makes zero sense. Those people have no base and no arguement who says its against Iran. Our top leaders are coming to Iran several times, coming to Iran's SL funeral, even doing trade talks last week. If we were american puppets then we'd be at side of america attacking Iran and not doing all that For Iran.

The alliance is infact a message to America that region rejects its security architecture. US security architecture attracts wars and instability and is unreliable.

 

[Trailer23]

As opposed to losing to TTP, BLA, BLF like mediore army is doing now ?

That statement of yours pretty much gives a clear idea of who & what you truly are..., faggot.

But that's okay, 'cause in the end I was always told to have a soft spot for retards. You fit that bill perfectly.

@Yasser76 @Master Chief @Starlord @Distant_Observer

 

[Desprado123]

If India and Pakistan have another military 'skirmish', do Pakistanis now expect that Saudi Arabia, which has extensive trade relations with India, will openly and militarily support Pakistan against India?

It is not clear who this alliance is aimed at countering. It certainly isn't Israel, since 3 years of genocide against Sunni Muslims in Gaza did not result in this alliance.

Saudi will back with money and Turkey will give support whatever is in there mean unlike Iran who would keep there mouth shut and act like it was Pakistan fault same like operation Sindoor the attack but Tureky and KSA never did.

 

[Yasser76]

That statement of yours pretty much gives a clear idea of who & what you truly are..., faggot.

But that's okay, 'cause in the end I was always told to have a soft spot for retards. You fit that bill perfectly.

@Yasser76 @Master Chief @Starlord @Distant_Observer

Dude, guy is a Rakesh, now watch the usual suspects come to his defence

 

[Pakistan First]

You know..., I think we should bring back Imran Khan because only then will this deal look sweet to a number of Members.

Even though I seriously dislike current hybrid system of Asim Munir, but what you wrote about is 100% true.

People would be saying, that oh only IK could have done that.. Look for first time in 100s of years something like Islamic NATO is being formed because of our leader. If IK would have gone to Iran for SL funeral than we'd be praising like anything (Just what asim munir did too). At the same time, the N-league would be saying he should not have gone, look what Trump would think. This is our problem. We never think without a political bias. Why on earth we cannot put aside filthy political bias before any such thing. We follow political affiliations like a religion. That is absurd. We need to change this mindset. This has to happen across the spectrum.

 

[Watandar]

That statement of yours pretty much gives a clear idea of who & what you truly are..., faggot.

But that's okay, 'cause in the end I was always told to have a soft spot for retards. You fit that bill perfectly.

@Yasser76 @Master Chief @Starlord @Distant_Observer

It's called facts on the ground. The army has failed repeatedly to protect ordinary citizens from terrorist groups all over Pakistan. But same army thinks it can protect Al Saud from the Houthis ?? Deluded people.

Your PTI obsession is still out of place in this thread.