Mecca Defence Alliance: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

[Anatolia]

I see the others eject Turkey....

Another NATO, without USA, only european countries.

I see the opposite happening. Türkiye isn’t getting pushed out of anything. If anything, it’s becoming more accepted and more central. Türkiye actually defends, contributes, and carries weight in any future alliance scenario, especially if Europe ever tried to form something separate from NATO. And we already know this because Türkiye has strong, practical ties with Spain, Italy, and the UK. Those relationships aren’t symbolic; they’re built on defence cooperation, industry, and shared strategic interests. That naturally pulls in parts of the Balkans too, and once they align, the rest follows.

I can even see France being the one that risks isolation in a future realignment. But even then, France and Türkiye are cooperating more than people think in certain fields. So no, nobody is ejecting Türkiye from anywhere. Türkiye is needed, respected, and appreciated because it brings real capability, geography, manpower, and industry. Any alliance that wants to survive would want Türkiye inside, not outside.

 

[Oscar]

Isn't the headquarters in Riyadh?

It is - which also is fine from a "central" location with appropriate infrastructure which while being well connected(think of all developments tied to Riyadh) also provides stake for the Saudis to remain committed.

Not part of the discussion but that doesnt mean Istanbul isnt more connected or developed - just that for the purpose of the alliance for reasons both tangible and intangible - Riyadh works out just fine.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Will Turkey remains in NATO once MECCA made and probably growing ?
Not sure.

I think its the other way around, as Turkiye becomes more important and her web of alliances and interests grows NATO will place more prestige and emphasis on Turkiye. A more influential Turkiye is both good for europe and for the Muslim world.

Turkiye is already militarily active in many nations, shes a member of the Turkic council and now is a member of what will probably become the premier Muslim majority alliance.

Her place in NATO will grow and her opinion will hold more weight as time goes on. Hence why zionists are desperate for Turkiye to be kicked out of NATO, because Turkiye would never allow them into it. And if Turkiye becomes more influential it would become near impossible for isreal to enter it.

 

[GoatsMilk]

It is - which also is fine from a "central" location with appropriate infrastructure which while being well connected(think of all developments tied to Riyadh) also provides stake for the Saudis to remain committed.

Perfect approach, Turkiye and Pakistan have behaved as allies for decades, its best to give more incentive to the Saudis to stay committed.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

I see the opposite happening. Türkiye isn’t getting pushed out of anything. If anything, it’s becoming more accepted and more central. Türkiye actually defends, contributes, and carries weight in any future alliance scenario, especially if Europe ever tried to form something separate from NATO. And we already know this because Türkiye has strong, practical ties with Spain, Italy, and the UK. Those relationships aren’t symbolic; they’re built on defence cooperation, industry, and shared strategic interests. That naturally pulls in parts of the Balkans too, and once they align, the rest follows.

I can even see France being the one that risks isolation in a future realignment. But even then, France and Türkiye are cooperating more than people think in certain fields. So no, nobody is ejecting Türkiye from anywhere. Türkiye is needed, respected, and appreciated because it brings real capability, geography, manpower, and industry. Any alliance that wants to survive would want Türkiye inside, not outside.

I have one question. there are over 1 million turkish people live in germany i guess almost 2 million and they are there from the time of ottoman siding with germany. then why is turkiye do not have the strongest relationship with germany in europe now a days? and why there are no crucial defence production ane technology ties of turkiye with germany?

 

[Death_Zone]

Europe without the US and Turkey cannot hope to fight the russians.

Sure not. It was true with weak defense budgets in EU and a russia with all its tanks and soldiers (ie before the ukrainian war). No more the case.

 

[Death_Zone]

The Idea the Frenchmen and Germans are willing to die for the Baltics is comical.

we died for Poland in 1940..... so it's all but comical.

 

[Yasser76]

we died for Poland in 1940..... so it's all but comical.

What is this "We" BS Rakesh?!

 

[Maarkhoor]

 

[Maarkhoor]

What is this "We" BS Rakesh?!

Indian Hindu RSS just know became jews.,

 

[GoatsMilk]

Further to people thinking Turkiye will leave NATO.



The game isnt to isolate yourself and to make yourself more vunrable, the game is to build as many connections as possible and then to use those connections as leverage to serve personal benefit.

The worst thing any nation can do is to move in a way that isolates them. It means they get f'ked by their enemies and because their in a desperate situation, their then "exploited" by their few "allies".

You can guess which nation this is happening to today.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Shahid Bolsen on the Mecca Agreement​

>> I don't always agree with Shahid Bolsen but I find his videos and viewpoints interesting nonetheless. I would recommend people watch this video if they can.

 

[hyperman]

we died for Poland in 1940..... so it's all but comical.

This isn't the 1940s, and history hasn't been fruitful for the frenchmen who went marching east towards Moscow, as we know with Napoleon.

 

[hyperman]

Sure not. It was true with weak defense budgets in EU and a russia with all its tanks and soldiers (ie before the ukrainian war). No more the case.

Oh its certainly the case still, Europe mentally is not prepared for a war of attrition with Russia, it will not be able to absorb death tolls, its population is not built for such conflicts, nor does the geography favor it in the baltics.

Assuming Russia wins in Ukraine and consolidates Ukraine and does wish to take the baltics and connect with Kaliningrad, Without the US, the Baltics will return in all likelyhood.

Though I suspect the Baltics won't be a target, Moldova and transnistria after Ukraine is the more likely target.

 

[Corax]

we died for Poland in 1940..... so it's all but comical.

And millions of British, Americans, Poles, Canadians, Indians, Africans, Australians etc died for you froggies...in two world wars!