New-Chill Bangladesh Thread

[Afif]

If you cannot see the negative aspects of your own side - not only that - but attack anyone who points it out then you are a cult member.

Being pluralistic means - you accept you aren’t perfect and other people have the right to highlight it.

You need to accept that in your personal life, religious life, work life to political life.

The responsibility on the critic is to do it constructively, empathy, honestly and based on fact.

See, most of us has outgrown the urge to sound smartass articulate critical thinker.

 

[BananaRepublic]

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See, most of us has outgrown the urge to sound smartass articulate critical thinker.

I know! You are happy in your lungi.

You tried wearing trousers and shirt - it just makes you feel itchy!

I get it!

I am not here to debate the likes of you.

Now be gone!

 

[LeonBlack08]

I am just going to respond to all your point in this one final post. I will not post any further regarding this.

I will also move these off topic discussions to Chill Bangladesh thread to not derail this thread any further.

I have never claimed that I am the only expert here but your perspective is extremely deficient and patronizing

What did you mean my UK Sylheti buddies? What are you trying to imply now? Make it clear.

You brought up "India Doctrine" out of nowhere to remind everyone of your credibility and then posted a condescending comment - "Do any of you moderators have any idea how analysis actually works?" And you are surprised to get a snappy retort. Now you can act naive now, but your posts reveal your hypocrisy. You do think yourself as superior to the rest of us here. It may not be visible to you, but clear as daylight to everyone else.

As for your UK Sylheti buddies - do you not see where your buddies like Bananarepublic and uksyl are from? You seem to join hands with them to gang up on other members with different POV. You don't care much for inclusive pluralistic discussion when it comes to the other "jamati" members huh?

You obviously have no problem collaborating with these staunch BAL supporters, who rush to defend India any chance they get. In fact one of them even openly justified Hasina's action of locking up "Mullahs" in Aynaghor for preaching Islam.

The fact that you are okay being buddies with these kind of people and collaborate to gang up on members with different POV, shows you are definitely swallowing the Hindutva trash and it has impacted your world view.

You want evidence of you have been absorbing hindutva trash? Look at your pre-election comments. "Election won't happen", "IG will extend its tenure", "Jamaat will come to power by rigging". These are exact same trash everyone has seen propagated by Awami and Hindutva social media influencers and Godi media prior to election.

You claim to be objective - but no you are not. Everyone has bias, myself included. And your bias has led you to seek confirmation and validation from Hindutva sources unfortunately.

Finally - the reason I brought up Chomsky is because you brought up your work on "India Doctrine" to try to remind everyone of your credibility. Even though I never read your book, but I have seen you defend Bangladesh against Hindutva trolls in the old PDF. It was at a time when we were few and they were plenty and you relentlessly took their insult and continued to counter them. Which is why I was very liberal when it came to you and even argued in your favour with non-Bangladeshi mods, whether you believe it or not.

But after the Chomsky episode, I have the realization that anyone can pretend to be something they are not for an entire lifetime. That's why going forward, no more preferential treatment for anyone.

The reason this argument started because I asked you to not start labelling people just because they don't share your views. And I will end with the same.

 

[Afif]

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I know! You are happy in your lungi.

You tried wearing trousers and shirt - it just makes you feel itchy!

I get it!

I am not here to debate the likes of you.

Now be gone!

Lol, why do you get insecure so easily?

I am not going anywhere. You keep barking from safe distance. That suits you.

 

[MNZGamerX]

As for your UK Sylheti buddies - do you not see where your buddies like Bananarepublic and uksyl are from? You seem to join hands with them to gang up on other members with different POV. You don't care much for inclusive pluralistic discussion when it comes to the other "jamati" members huh?

Everything you have written in that long reply applies ten fold to you. Your pretense in trying to maintain an objective and impartial stance is an utter lie. I have nothing to do with @BananaRepublic and @uksyl and there certainly is no coordination or ganging up on anyone. That you and the Jamaat sympathizers here are isolated is due to your deceit and duplicity and has nothing with any attempt by others to coordinate a response.

Your accusations are just a maneuver to appear the victim while you and other moderators have sought to censor and curtail discussion on matters regarding Bangladesh. I raised my book The India Doctrine, which I am certainly entitled to do, as I wrote the book and which is one of the most referred books in the region on Indian hegemony. The point I was seeking to raise the matter of my book which was not out of nowhere is that for any form of analysis to work it has to refer to the 'other side' and to comprehend and explain it and counter it where necessary. That is the only point I was seeking to make but clearly you suffer from some inferiority complex as you saw it as an issue of credibility and condescension. Either you think too much of yourself or too little and suffer from some inferiority complex as a consequence.

My view has not changed regarding India and the period I wrote about in my book. What has changed since, is the world and especially after 2014. I had thus far been focused on India up till then but the period saw the BJP come to power in India and there was also the rise of China and American covert operations in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, North and Sub-Saharan Africa and Central and South America. The analysis that I adopted in the book could not be applied to the new era in South Asia especially as the BJP has a very different approach to the region and for a long period India and the USA were working in tandem. Of course I cannot expect such depth of analysis from someone as ignorant and moronic as you.

However, what really changed for me personally was Gaza and Epstein and the comprehension that in this new era American hegemony could be as detrimental to Bangladesh as the Indian version and maybe even more so. That the Jamaat and NCP were acting as mere instruments of American hegemony seemed to me to equally as dangerous to the sovereignty and independence of the country as what the AL were attempting to do in promoting Indian hegemony. I explain all this in my summary and clarification of my new work in the essay 'The America Doctrine and the Unravelling of the World Order (2008 - 2024)' -

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[BananaRepublic]

Everything you have written in that long reply applies ten fold to you. Your pretense in trying to maintain an objective and impartial stance is an utter lie. I have nothing to do with @BananaRepublic and @uksyl and there certainly is no coordination or ganging up on anyone. That you and the Jamaat sympathizers here are isolated is due to your deceit and duplicity and has nothing with any attempt by others to coordinate a response.

Your accusations are just a maneuver to appear the victim while you and other moderators have sought to censor and curtail discussion on matters regarding Bangladesh. I raised my book The India Doctrine, which I am certainly entitled to do, as I wrote the book and which is one of the most referred books in the region on Indian hegemony. The point I was seeking to raise the matter of my book which was not out of nowhere is that for any form of analysis to work it has to refer to the 'other side' and to comprehend and explain it and counter it where necessary. That is the only point I was seeking to make but clearly you suffer from some inferiority complex as you saw it as an issue of credibility and condescension. Either you think too much of yourself or too little and suffer from some inferiority complex as a consequence.

My view has not changed regarding India and the period I wrote about in my book. What has changed since, is the world and especially after 2014. I had thus far been focused on India up till then but the period saw the BJP come to power in India and there was also the rise of China and American covert operations in the Middle East, Eastern Europe, North and Sub-Saharan Africa and Central and South America. The analysis that I adopted in the book could not be applied to the new era in South Asia especially as the BJP has a very different approach to the region and for a long period India and the USA were working in tandem. Of course I cannot expect such depth of analysis from someone as ignorant and moronic as you.

However, what really changed for me personally was Gaza and Epstein and the comprehension that in this new era American hegemony could be as detrimental to Bangladesh as the Indian version and maybe even more so. That the Jamaat and NCP were acting as mere instruments of American hegemony seemed to me to equally as dangerous to the sovereignty and independence of the country as what the AL were attempting to do in promoting Indian hegemony. I explain all this in my summary and clarification of my new work in the essay 'The America Doctrine and the Unravelling of the World Order (2008 - 2024)' -

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A brilliant response!

I will add that - it is not that I don’t believe that India aspires to be a hegemon in the region - it is that India is incapable of it.

Here’s an analogy, it’s not that I don’t believe a hyena doesn’t want to dominate a lion - rather it is a futile attempt.

Even if India was capable -neither USA or China will allow it.

For the Islamists India has become a weapon to throw at the secular forces of Bangladesh.

Look at the way these shills accuse me of being “Hinduvta” - when I am a vocal critic of them.

These dishonest shills don’t care about facts.

They’ll cry fake GDP. Election manipulation. Cling to fake and biased polls.

They even merrily quote that donkey - Pinaki! Who is a 100% Zionist agent.

 

[MNZGamerX]

I will add that - it is not that I don’t believe that India aspires to be a hegemon in the region - it is that India is incapable of it.

This is something the Congress Party failed to understand but they did make a great attempt at it which was the subject of my book. The BJP has something else in mind and is less hegemonic in nature and intent but their very long term plan is as detrimental if implemented and is what I discuss in my new work. My new work is however far more focused on the USA, China and Russia and less so on India but it is certainly there ...

 

[LeonBlack08]

Of course I cannot expect such depth of analysis from someone as ignorant and moronic as you.

Just proved my point again that you find it okay to label and verbally abuse people, but it is a problem when others return the favour. Also the fact that you believe you are in a superior intellectual level than everyone here. Keep denying it but your posts reveal it all.

Consider this a last verbal warning, even though I could very well issue a warning point right here.

Any more verbal abuse towards other members and moderators, you are going to be warned.

 

[LeonBlack08]

I will add that - it is not that I don’t believe that India aspires to be a hegemon in the region - it is that India is incapable of it.

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

Your statement perfectly encapsulate that.

 

[BananaRepublic]

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"

Your statement perfectly encapsulate that.

You were educated in India, right?

Sticks out like a baboons bottom!

No wonder the Indian elite send their kids to the U.K.

 

[LeonBlack08]

You were educated in India, right?

Sticks out like a baboons bottom!

No wonder the Indian elite send their kids to the U.K.

Lol, can't come with anything better? You are just pathetic.

 

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People might think that, Saudi Arabia like Singair Upazila shown above is a Jamat stronghold, but actually it is a BNP stronghold...
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This is why BNPs mistake means Jamats gain...

 

[Prince_]

@MNZGamerX you hate Jamaat and express it openly, which is absolutely fine.

But why are you labelling @Species as Jamaati for no reason? The guy hasn't been active in PDF through this entire election period.

Your criticism of Jamaat is completely fair game. But randomly labelling people because of difference of opinion is not.

What’s wrong with calling someone Jamati if it’s clear from his post that he supports Jamaat? I’ve never seen you complain when people label others as Awami brigade.

Instead of focusing on that, you should address the person who insulted MNZGamerX by accusing him of taking money from BAL to spread propaganda on this forum without a shred of proof. That’s a serious allegation and deserves a warning. Be consistent with your warnings.

 

[Prince_]

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