Not just engines, Tejas Mk-1A delivery could be hit over key Danish part, now on export blacklist

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Not just engines, Tejas Mk-1A delivery could be hit over key Danish part, now on export blacklist​


India is in talks with Denmark over the engine charge amplifiers, while HAL has contracted a local firm to indigenise them, it is learnt. HAL was supposed to start the delivery in March.​

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18 September, 2024 11:26 am IST


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New Delhi/Jodhpur: The delivery of the Tejas Mk-1A fighter jets to the Indian Air Force (IAF) could be further delayed because a key component of the aircraft—engine charge amplifier—that was meant to be imported from Denmark has been put on an export blacklist by it, ThePrint has learnt.


This would be over and above the ongoing delay of several months because of the non-delivery of engines by American engine maker General Electric (GE) and the time taken for certain iterations (changes) of the Israeli software installed in the aircraft.
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About the charge amplifiers, sources in the defence establishment told ThePrint that while the Ministry of Defence has taken up the issue with Denmark via the Indian embassy, state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), which manufactures the fighters, has already contracted a local firm to indigenise the product.
Sources also said that while these amplifiers are fitted on board the previous generation of Tejas in service with the IAF, the contract for the 83 LCA (Light Combat Aircraft) Mk-1As remains unfilled.

Asked why, a source said, “Denmark authorities have put export restrictions on this item, which is likely to be due to the ongoing Russia-Ukraine conflict. We have taken up the issue through our Indian mission there.”

According to sources, HAL is working to ensure that the indigenisation is completed.


“It was a small product which was being imported. But now, because of this export blacklisting, HAL has contracted a Bengaluru firm to indigenise it. The firm, we are told, has almost completed it, and then HAL will carry out tests. It can then be mass produced,” a second source said.

HAL expects the process to be completed sooner than expected and is hopeful of delivering the initial lot of aircraft with some charge amplifiers that came in under the previous contract.

Sources explained that although it is a very small item, the engine charge amplifier is an important element which measures the temperature of the engine and acts accordingly.

ThePrint had first reported in March this year that the delivery of the aircraft will be delayed because iterations were needed in the software and a key part, which was to be imported from a foreign country, had not come. The charge amplifier was the part that was referred to in ThePrint’s report, but there was no confirmation about the exact details at that time.

“The engine delay is the larger problem behind which key issues are hiding. Even if GE would have delivered the engine in March, the aircraft would still not have been delivered,” a third source said, describing the seriousness of the issue.


The sources said that it is hoped that the Denmark government will give India a breather or that the indigenisation process and testing phase do not consume time.

As reported by ThePrint last week, after Defence Minister Rajnath Singh discussed the issue with the US during his visit to Washington in August, GE has assured India of a fresh delivery schedule, starting November this year, for the F404-IN20 engines.

GE has promised two engines per month and assured that the overall delivery schedule would not be pushed. The firm had explained to the defence ministry that there were global supply chain issues and that it usually takes time for new vendors to be duly certified since parts have to undergo various tests.

According to the contract signed in 2021, HAL was to start the delivery of the aircraft from March this year and has to deliver 16 aircraft per year. No aircraft has been delivered yet and now, the hope is that the first one would be delivered either by the end of October or November.

(Edited by Mannat Chugh)
 
India should buy F-16s from the US instead of wasting time on this failed fighter.
 
The sources said that it is hoped that the Denmark government will give India a breather or that the indigenisation process and testing phase do not consume time.
Or they could have bought it in large numbers in past 15 years or so.
 
When Indians say a few months it means a few decades.

Procuring F-16s immediately will help you defend against the Chinese.

Aisa - pakistan, and China have not completely shifted to 5-6th gen fithers. They are still flying with 3++ and 4th-generation fighters.

HAL Tejas Mk1a is capable enough to serve the country over 2-3 decades as a defence role.
 
Procuring F-16s immediately will help you defend against the Chinese.
Indians are reactive people so, they will need a push. Just engineer a deadly border conflict with China.

Delay any existing contracted weapons and spares delivery using supply chain disruption excuse, delay intel sharing, disrupt GPS signal etc.

Indians have nowhere to go, as their local MIC doesn't exist, Russian MIC is fuked, French MIC can't produce anything fast enough, Isreal can't even speak with US authorization.

Indians will kiss the American ass and take anything Americans throw at them. Indians have a vibrant history of doing panic purchase... 😉
 
Indians are reactive people so, they will need a push. Just engineer a deadly border conflict with China.

Delay any existing contracted weapons and spares delivery using supply chain disruption excuse, delay intel sharing, disrupt GPS signal etc.

Indians have nowhere to go, as their local MIC doesn't exist, Russian MIC is fuked, French MIC can't produce anything fast enough, Isreal can't even speak with US authorization.

Indians will kiss the American ass and take anything Americans throw at them. Indians have a vibrant history of doing panic purchase... 😉

My main cocern is knowing how poorly skilled Indians are, they will bring bad reputation to the US equipment.
 
Indians have nowhere to go, as their local MIC doesn't exist, Russian MIC is fuked, French MIC can't produce anything fast enough, Isreal can't even speak with US authorization.
It's pretty rich coming from a Bangladeshi who can't even manufacture underwear without importing cotton from India, yet they have the audacity to talk about MIC.
“We will be indigenising almost 1,000 parts (of the engine) with the help of local industry. This will also give a boost to the development of engine ecosystem in the country,” said Dr D.K., Sunil, Chairman and Managing Director (additional charge).
 
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Delay any existing contracted weapons and spares delivery using supply chain disruption excuse, delay intel sharing, disrupt GPS signal etc.
India faced some of the harshest sanctions after the 1998 Pokhran nuclear tests, including restrictions on key tech imports. Guess what? That actually pushed India to develop its own capabilities in critical areas like space (ISRO's success), missile tech (Agni, K series missiles, Astra BVRAAM, BMD systems, Pralay, Shaurya, Nirbhay, BrahMos, SMART), indigenous fighter and helicopters, and even nuclear submarines (Arihant class). The sanctions made India more self-reliant, and it’s the same story with advanced systems like DRDO’s missile defense and our own satellite navigation system (NavIC), which reduces dependence on GPS. As far engine charge amplifier for LCA is concerned, the component is currently being indigenized and is in the advanced stages of the process. While it's a setback for now, it will ultimately eliminate another foreign dependency in the long run. So, delaying stuff only drives us to build better solutions at home. You should be more worried about that!
 
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By the way folks with these sanctions

Do even Indians know which enemy they are fighting ??

Russia's best friend
Sending Troops to Russia as contractors
Buying lot of oil and gas for cheap discounts , nothing wrong
Amreeka se bhi doosti, want all tech, now stuck with sanctions
Iran se bhi doosti, then bewafai - Chabahar bhi giya
Ukraine se bhi CHumi chati, Har Phade main Tang Arana
Bangladesh se TV channel per Panga!!
China se TV per Panga!! Phir BRICS main jana
Local 200 Million Muslim bhi problem
Gora Social Media all anti Indian

Soocah apne Indian friends se Pooch loon , what is the feeling inside India these days?

At least for Pakistan we know our issues are all internal
 
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By the way folks with these sanctions

Do even Indians know which enemy they are fighting ??

Russia's best friend
Sending Troops to Russia as contractors
Buying lot of oil and gas for cheap discounts , nothing wrong
Amreeka se bhi doosti, want all tech, now stuck with sanctions
Iran se bhi doosti, then bewafai - Chabahar bhi giya
Ukraine se bhi CHumi chati
Bangladesh se TV channel per Panga!!
China se TV per Panga!! Phri Brics main jana
Local 200 Million Muslim bhi problem
Gora Social Media all anti Indian

Soocah apne Indian friends se Pooch loon , what is the feeling inside India these days?

At least for Pakistan we know our issues are all internal
I believe India's focus is on maintaining internal and external security to support economic growth. For this, the ability to carry out surgical operations inside Pakistan is crucial, as is having a strong air defense system to ensure that no missile or fighter jet can penetrate Indian airspace. This ensures that India remains secure, even in the event of a future nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan.
 
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