flyingorca
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How different would Imran Khan's policy be? I think he was quite happy with Taliban take over.
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How different would Imran Khan's policy be? I think he was quite happy with Taliban take over.
SteppeWolff
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Chacha ji technology has came a long way in creating cheap and effective solutions. Its 2026. Ffs.
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ghazi52
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Pakistan warns 'immediate, severe' response following Afghan Taliban's unprovoked firing at border
PM's spokesperson says security forces responded immediately to silence the aggressionWeb Desk
February 24, 2026
Security forces responded immediately to stop unprovoked firing by the Afghan Taliban at the Pakistan-Afghanistan border on Tuesday amid intense friction between the two countries, according to the prime minister's spokesperson.
"The Afghan Taliban regime initiated unprovoked firing along the Pakistan-Afghanistan Border in Torkham and Tirah sub-sectors. Pakistan’s security forces responded immediately and effectively, silencing the Taliban aggression," said Mosharraf Zaidi, who is Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif's spokesperson for foreign media.
He warned that any further provocation would be responded to "immediately and severely", adding that Pakistan would continue to protect its citizens and guard its territorial integrity.
hussain0216
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People get too bogged down
Look at this thread the PTI afghani types are upset, boo hoo
Who cares,, Hindus are our enemy
Afghans are our enemy
So just hurt them,, hurt the Afghans, make them suffer
It doesn't matter who did this or that or when
Pakistan may have had many policies, some of them worked, others didn't, it doesn't matter
If a enemy is attacking us, then DESTROY THEM
It's time to shatter the Afghans, make their lives more miserable and painful then ever
No one should get caught in semantics TTP, TTA, it's ALL AFGHAN
they have been attacking us for 80 years, what was the excuse then???
We should just bomb Afghanistan, for every terrorist attack we should bomb the Afghans even more
If they kill 10, we kill 100
If they target Islamabad or Peshawar,, then Kandahar and Kabul get bombed
Just do it, and stop making excuses,, this is a good chance to weed out the TRAITORS in our midst
SteppeWolff
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He's in Qatar to bend over backwards for those camel jockies who'll make us sign on another restraint/cuckold agreement.
Gosh, beyond pathetic. Multiple dozen good men martyred in just a week.
mythbuster
SpeedLimited
" Any further provocation" ? This is not good enough .
NationalistPKDude132
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i just want taliban out
I still think the normal afghan woman or man is good.. the problem is Taliban and TTP
THis is israel level thinking Check my post history i have been calling for bombing taliban to smithereens but not civilians.
PAKISTANFOREVER
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afghans are JUST AS MUCH our enemies as the indians are. We NEED to start mass bombing their population centres, hospitals, shopping areas, food and water storage facilities. Then and ONLY then will the afghans start to learn. IF things get out of hand, we should just NUKE afghanistan. Problem solved.
PAKISTANFOREVER
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Just as they kill our civilians, we NEED to MASS KILL afghan civilians. It's payback time. EVERY time we hold back, it ONLY emboldens the afghans and the taliban.
hussain0216
Elite Member
No forget this normal Afghan bull crap
All afghans are scum
All afghans are our enemies
We must punish all afghans if ANY Afghan attacks Pakistan
Keep it simple, make them suffer
I don't care about the past, or Jernail this or that, Or Imran khan the Messiah, who what he did in 2007, and what someone else did in 1974
All I care about is the enemies of Pakistan being bombed and killed
I will say again, the Afghans may be able to kill Pakistani in suicide bombings or terrorist attacks BUT if they kill ten
Then Pakistan has to go out and just slaughter 100 afghans somewhere
GIVE THEM CONSEQUENCES as a enemy
SteppeWolff
Trusted Member
Agreed 100% on all points.
But cucks running the state don't look very interested in doing all this.
Zhob may to air strike hogyi, Mullah Yaqoob kay compound pay kab hogi? Also, strike that Haibatullah Akhunzada in Kandahar. That dog is concentrating power in Kandahar, make the city his grave.
hasssanali8998
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BLA t*errorists commander Muhammad Farooq aka Comrade has been k*illed in Helmand Afghanistan during a robbery by unknown men.
Oscar
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Honestly, people need to stop giving Afghans this constant sympathy card. They’ve been a mess long before the last 50 years of war. The chaos didn’t start with the Soviets or the Americans; it’s always been there. Tribal rivalries, no strong central system, everyone pulling in their own direction. The war just made all that worse, it didn’t create it. They’ve had decades to figure out how to build something stable but every time it’s the same story: more fighting, more finger pointing, zero direction.
Yeah, they’ve been through hell, no doubt, but trauma isn’t a free pass forever. Countries like Japan and Germany literally got flattened and still rebuilt. Afghanistan can’t even decide what it wants to be. They keep choosing the same militant mindset and then acting shocked when it backfires. That’s not trauma anymore, that’s a national habit but your biased sympathy cannot seem to end for them.
As for what their people or politicians say about Pakistan, it means nothing? Lol . It’s always the same cycle: use Pakistan when they need help, trash it when they need someone to blame. That’s been their game since forever.
Whether it’s one drunk guy or the whole Afghan government talking it’s all they are about. The country’s basically stuck in a loop and no one there seems serious about changing it. Saying they need 50 years of peace to rebuild sounds deep but come on, they’ve squandered every peaceful stretch they ever got. If a nation wants peace, it builds it from within, not by expecting someone else to babysit them.
Pakistan needs to stop expecting logic from them. Treat them like what they are: unreliable neighbors who never learned from their own mistakes. Enough of the hand-holding. You can’t help people who don’t want to help themselves.
Lol at this whole “Pakistan created the Taliban and now it’s backfiring” take is way too simplistic. Pakistan didn’t create Afghan chaos - it got dragged into it because every power since the 70s made a mess there and conveniently handed it to us to clean up. When the Soviets rolled in, everyone from the US to Saudi to China was pumping money and weapons. Pakistan became the middleman, not some mastermind with an evil plan. People act like GHQ was writing history alone, while the entire West was cheering on the Mujahideen.
Now suddenly it’s trendy to pretend Pakistan was pulling all the strings while Afghanistan was an innocent spectator. Come on. The Taliban came out of Afghan soil, Afghan poverty, Afghan madrassas, and the same tribal chaos that’s been there forever. Pakistan didn’t invent that. They tried to manage it when the world ditched them after 1989 so sure they threw in some self interest . And now because the Taliban aren’t behaving like obedient allies, people call it “Pakistan’s failed project.” No, it’s Afghanistan doing what it’s always done: turning against whoever helped them once they feel stable enough to bite the hand.
People who say “Pakistan interfered too much” and “the army ruined everything” never understand how complicated the situation actually was. Pakistan didn’t get involved because it wanted to run Afghanistan; it got stuck between two burning houses. Once the US invaded Afghanistan in 2001, Pakistan had two options: either go fully hostile to the Taliban and risk internal collapse, or cooperate with the US while keeping channels open with the very Afghan groups it had old ties with. You can sit in hindsight and call that hypocrisy, but for people on the ground, it was about survival.
So instead of calling it “Project Taliban” like one neat plan, it’s more accurate to say: Pakistan built and protected a relationship with the Afghan Taliban for strategic reasons, heavily backed them in the 1990s, and continued to tolerate or support them in various ways even after 2001, while at the same time fighting their ideological cousins (the TTP) at home and working with the US against some of the same networks. It was a relationship of mutual convenience, mistrust, and double games on both sides, not a clean one‑direction project where Pakistan pressed buttons and the Taliban obeyed.
This idea that Pakistan has a single brain making decisions is total nonsense. Policy here has always been layered. The diplomats say one thing, the generals plan something else, and the people implementing it in KPK or FATA are improvising in real time. You can’t treat Waziristan and Islamabad like one thought process. The army had to cooperate with the US now with drones, intel sharing, logistics and while also managing tribal networks that grew out of the 80s jihad era. Those tribes still saw the Afghan Taliban as brothers, not enemies. So Islamabad might say “fight terror,” but the on-ground commanders were balancing conflicting goals daily: fighting TTP while trying not to ignite all-out rebellion from the same tribes that hosted Afghan militants.
The army’s role in KPK grew out of that mess. Civilians couldn’t handle the vacuum left by decades of war spillover, drugs, militants, refugees and then you had the Americans bombing just across the border. That war didn’t just hit Afghanistan; it physically spilled into Pakistani villages. So when people say “oh the military shouldn’t be running things there,” they forget that the state itself had collapsed in huge areas. The army filled that gap because no one else could, not because Pakistan loves military rule. Without those operations from Rah-e-Nijat to Zarb-e-Azb there wouldn’t even be a functional KPK today.
Sure, things could’ve been handled better after that, but blaming only the army is lazy thinking. Local governments, political parties, and tribal elites all wanted a share of control but none wanted responsibility. Bajwa re-engaging groups later on was a mistake, sure, but pretending it came from some evil love for militants is clown logic. It was short-sighted diplomacy, not ideology. The military never “loved” the TTP; they just kept miscalculating how to neutralize them without starting another full war.
And the funny thing is, even Imran Khan, who now portrays himself as anti-establishment, cheered large parts of these policies when it suited him. He spent years defending dialogue with the Taliban, calling war “America’s problem,” then turned around and praised “our brothers” in Kabul for defeating foreign powers. He also supported US cooperation when Pakistan needed aid or global legitimacy. So anyone pretending the political class was “against interference” is just rewriting history. They were all part of the same mixed messaging and was criticizing the US when useful, defending the Taliban when convenient, and patting the army on the back when operations brought calm.
His whole political rise, especially from 2011 to 2018, didn’t happen in a vacuum; media space, electables flipping, pressure on rivals, all of that lined up very nicely for him. That doesn’t mean he was a puppet in every detail, but it does mean he was the preferred choice of powerful quarters for a long time, and he benefited massively from that.
The hypocrisy comes in when his supporters pretend he was always anti‑establishment and a victim from day one. When the same “umpire’s finger” was seen as being on his side, they loved it. When opponents were getting cases, bans, and media blackouts, it was “accountability” and “Naya Pakistan.” When the same tactics hit PTI later, suddenly it became fascism, stolen mandates, and conspiracy. You can’t love engineering when it crushes your enemies and then cry about engineering when it hits your own party.
So using the typical scapegoat of Project Taliban, Project Imran, Project Hybrid blah blah is just lazy internet cynicism. Every state makes political moves; some work, some don’t. Pakistan’s not collapsing because of “projects”; it’s just going through the same messy political corrections that big institutions everywhere face after years of bad decisions. Acting like it’s the end of the world ignores that there have been tougher times and the country still pulled through.
yes, the military's meddled too much in Pakistan's history, been way too powerful at times. But pretending it's one big evil brain running everything is dumb to a point Ive stopped trying to comprehend .
It's not a single entity, it's layers: generals, diplomats, field officers all pulling different ways based on the mess on ground. And it's not just them, the whole elite club, politicians, business crowd, media barons, they all game the system. Public too, with their history of weak leadership , corruption scandals, mass protests demanding army takeovers when things stink, that's on Pakistani people . Pakistanis HAVE cheered coups, begged for saviors cuz of fractured politics and endless elite fights. Blaming just GHQ ignores how the whole establishment and street sentiment keeps feeding this cycle. Time to own it instead of fairy tales about one puppet master.
