Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Ali_Baba]

81 strirkes confirmed by DGISPR

Over what time period ?

 

[hasssanali8998]

Over what time period ?

feb 21 till 16 march

 

[Ali_Baba]

feb 21 till 16 march

That is not many i think. There are more ttp/taliban targets than that for sure.

 

[Distant_Observer]

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[hasssanali8998]

That is not many i think. There are more ttp/taliban targets than that for sure.

for us it is ALOT also remember this is agianst afghanistan not iran or india , like panzerkiel said pilots are legit tired if these

 

[Blain2]

Thank you, we all understand our limitations, but this is going on for decades and we are still strugging to stop infiltrations. We can not expect our enemy to do anything which goes in our favour or benifit us.

So, its our failure, yes we are trying, but its not enough and there are some repeated failure which we need to sort out.

I appreciate and thak you for being respectful and discussing the matter at hand, instead doing other stuff.

Like you, every Pakistani here wants to see the menace of terrorism stopped.

However, I think we owe it to ourselves and our security institutions to understand their limitations. You can blame our military for political interference (which is a separate topic for a different threat) but they squeeze that defense budget hard and try to get capabilities, adapt as much as they can, and make things work as best as possible.

What you cannot fault the military for is lack of trying. They are doing everything within their power and budget.

I hope you all know that ALL roads lead back to IIOK. The day Pakistan gives in to Indian diktats, all of these issues threatening Pakistani internal security will go by the wayside. This is why this is a complex challenge and the support for our security forces is essential.

 

[Blain2]

You and your kind are the institutional version of piped piper horror story, sorry to say, urdu equivalent of barsasti keray, coz I can guarantee you now, if Muneer is taken out and replaced by someone who goes 180 degrees, you lot will be eating your own words, going "wah sain wah". So predictable, please stop hiding behind the flag in the name of misplaced patriotism, coz flag is scared, and its above any institution.

You stick to your personal insults at me. That is the usual refuge of a certain political affiliation.

I am sure I can pay back in kind and more but not my way in life or on these threads. So carry on.

 

[Ali_Baba]

for us it is ALOT also remember this is agianst afghanistan not iran or india , like panzerkiel said pilots are legit tired if these

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I would expect the PAF to be able to generate high hundreds of missions per day against something like India, so hearing of exhaustion on the Afghan front is odd to me.

 

[Distant_Observer]

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Like you, every Pakistani here wants to see the menace of terrorism stopped.

However, I think we owe it to ourselves and our security institutions to understand their limitations. You can blame our military for political interference (which is a separate topic for a different threat) but they squeeze that defense budget hard and try to get capabilities, adapt as much as they can, and make things work as best as possible.

What you cannot fault the military for is lack of trying. They are doing everything within their power and budget.

I hope you all know that ALL roads lead back to IIOK. The day Pakistan gives in to Indian diktats, all of these issues threatening Pakistani internal security will go by the wayside. This is why this is a complex challenge and the support for our security forces is essential.

We all support our Military, but we need to have that part of our brain cells working as well which controls discussing and criticizing the short commings, failures and wrong doing doings.

So, none of the situations mentioned are new, we are facing this since 1947, keeping this in mind, I thing expecting more and better results is very basic and justified demand.

Lets hope and pray, this time we do not do a half way job and achieve our objectives.

at least afghan side border should be secured, after that controling internal law and order terrorists and their sympathisers becomes lot easier.

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Ong bruh. Unc is embarrassing

I agree with you

 

[UndercoverJIX]

Why you guys bullying chacha like this?

Chacha deserves it.

 

[Taimoor]

You stick to your personal insults at me. That is the usual refuge of a certain political affiliation.

I am sure I can pay back in kind and more but not my way in life or on these threads. So carry on.

I didnt personally call you instituional cultist, I was generalizing before you assumed I was having dig at you, and then you went full retard calling me politcal cultist! Sorry to say, you dont have acumen to engage in factual debate. You dont have any answer to all the facts I put forth. And then you came up with this PTI "idealogical allignment" with TTA! Cant you appreciate that anyone can see right through you and your agendas?

 

[Blain2]

I would expect the PAF to be able to generate high hundreds of missions per day against something like India, so hearing of exhaustion on the Afghan front is odd to me.

100%. I looked up old data (the actual numbers are in the official PAF History) and it seems PAF were averaging 139 sorties per day in the 17 day 1965 war. PAF are nowhere close to that currently and the tempo can be raised drastically higher inshallah.

 

[Falgrine]

100%. I looked up old data (the actual numbers are in the official PAF History) and it seems PAF were averaging 139 sorties per day in the 17 day 1965 war.

You have to keep into mind that the actual numbers of a/c involved in the ops were only a small fraction of the total PAF capacity.