Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[falcon34]

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[Samurai]

So we should continue to get our people killed and do nothing about it? What is the solution you guys are proposing?

There is no solution I guess. We have crossed the point of no return. Afghanistan with the blessings of India (or any other country) is going to bleed Pakistan with thousand cuts. We can either initiate full fledged war with them or keep taking the punches while slowly putting them down one by one. Of course this will severely affect our economy, peace and prosperity. All the diplomatic options have failed, unless Pakistan decides to go back to the negotiating table with the Afghan Taliban, because that's what they want.... they want Pakistan to blink first, so will our pride and ego let us do that?

Then there is the main issue of gaining support from the locals and all over Pakistan. Wars are not fought by countries where there is no or less public support or the people does not stand with the system. Unfortunately, this "system" has failed to garner support from the people and appease the public on outstanding issues like Baloch problem or KPK problem. Add the worse political turmoil that has happened for the past decade, which has also eroded the trust between the public and this system. If Pakistanis will not come out in huge numbers outside waving flags with patriotism and showing anger towards Afghanistan or TTP or BLA (which Pakistani public rarely do), then there will be no will from the nation to fight but only this system is fighting alone. Our enemies know that and that's the advantage they have... they know that what PA or govt. is doing is not popular with the people especially from KPK and Balochistan.

What other options we have???? Well as someone said, our govt. (including politicians, elites etc.), establishment, judiciary, journalists etc. form some sort of truth and reconciliation commission before the people and then come out openly with what they had done over the years and then ask for forgiveness for whatever bad things that they were involved with - Khawaja Asif has done a bit of that recently by acknowledging regrettably that Pakistan's role in Afghanistan war. Maybe this will assuage the public anger and there might be some build up of trust.

 

[Khansaheeb]

Indo Israel nexus isn't an immediate threat. Immediate threat are afghandoos. who are roaming freely in entire country and asking people/fellow pashtoons to pass on the information of SF and uniform personal to TTP. They are asking it openly on social media,Facebook. And they are killing people with the help of this real time information. Many cases of brutal killing including children has been reported in just last 24 hours.
I assure you no Israeli or Indian will ever dare to come and kill Pakistanis inside our own territory.
And if you are talking about indo-isreal big weapon deals then I am sure there are ways to tackle it. Israel and India have big things at stake including their trillion of dollars economy if they attack us. So Indo Israel aren't going to attack us without taking very measured steps. Also India and Israel at least wear uniform. U can identify and target them in same way afghanis are identifying and killing our people inside Pakistan.

As I have said time and time again, Pakistan is too powerful to be directly attacked. Our enemies are funding direct and indirect terrorism in Pakistan. That with the Corrupts' Machiavellian cling to power doesn't bode well. Our Politicians need to stop behaving like Viceroys and need to unleash democracy. The masses need to stop behaving like sheep and start challenging every action.

 

[hasssanali8998]

What is the solution you guys are proposing?

hug it our bro , all shall be fine

 

[muz]

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Shobaz is still licking Qatari balls

 

[Khansaheeb]

Indo Israel nexus isn't an immediate threat. Immediate threat are afghandoos. who are roaming freely in entire country and asking people/fellow pashtoons to pass on the information of SF and uniform personal to TTP. They are asking it openly on social media,Facebook. And they are killing people with the help of this real time information. Many cases of brutal killing including children has been reported in just last 24 hours.
I assure you no Israeli or Indian will ever dare to come and kill Pakistanis inside our own territory.
And if you are talking about indo-isreal big weapon deals then I am sure there are ways to tackle it. Israel and India have big things at stake including their trillion of dollars economy if they attack us. So Indo Israel aren't going to attack us without taking very measured steps. Also India and Israel at least wear uniform. U can identify and target them in same way afghanis are identifying and killing our people inside Pakistan.

The Indo-Zion threat may not be immediate but it is the greatest threat. Why ? Because they are well organised and financed.

 

[Aliso5]

calm your tits foujeet. last time your beloved mukkabaaz ssg commando general musharraf handed over pakistani bases, infrastructure, dignity, his military pants and lubricants to his master usa for FREE.

Should have fought with America for bin laden after all he was Muslim brother???. Do even Taliban regret taking sides with Bin laden????

 

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The resettlement of religious fanatics keeps on giving results.

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Shobaz is still licking Qatari balls

All of this is the result of paralysis caused by KP government. The bastards have been screaming no operation since two years now. When ever there's mobilization or resolve to do anything they start doing politics.

A stupid grand jirga is called and they say negotiate. Negotiation fail and they say to TTP please leaveee, as if they would leave. Then you have that chutyia cm minister who say my fight is with the fauj when every single day 20 lea are killed.

I'll give it 20 days before KP entire police and civil forces structure collapses if we have 20+ deaths every single day and there's not even a beep from PTI government, heck they don't even take TTPs name on any media show as well.

Basically i genuinely don't believe you can that easily abduct people until a significant population is involved with TTP which i feel like is in bannu and other areas.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Because they are well organised and financed.

fighting an orgnised army is easier than whatever this war is

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

calm your tits foujeet. last time your beloved mukkabaaz ssg commando general musharraf handed over pakistani bases, infrastructure, dignity, his military pants and lubricants to his master usa for FREE.

afghan taliban handed over their women, dignity and lubricants to get doggy-styled by indian hindutva fanatics who worship idols and are the MOST Islamaphobic group on planet earth.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

There is no solution I guess. We have crossed the point of no return. Afghanistan with the blessings of India (or any other country) is going to bleed Pakistan with thousand cuts. We can either initiate full fledged war with them or keep taking the punches while slowly putting them down one by one. Of course this will severely affect our economy, peace and prosperity. All the diplomatic options have failed, unless Pakistan decides to go back to the negotiating table with the Afghan Taliban, because that's what they want.... they want Pakistan to blink first, so will our pride and ego let us do that?

Then there is the main issue of gaining support from the locals and all over Pakistan. Wars are not fought by countries where there is no or less public support or the people does not stand with the system. Unfortunately, this "system" has failed to garner support from the people and appease the public on outstanding issues like Baloch problem or KPK problem. Add the worse political turmoil that has happened for the past decade, which has also eroded the trust between the public and this system. If Pakistanis will not come out in huge numbers outside waving flags with patriotism and showing anger towards Afghanistan or TTP or BLA (which Pakistani public rarely do), then there will be no will from the nation to fight but only this system is fighting alone. Our enemies know that and that's the advantage they have... they know that what PA or govt. is doing is not popular with the people especially from KPK and Balochistan.

What other options we have???? Well as someone said, our govt. (including politicians, elites etc.), establishment, judiciary, journalists etc. form some sort of truth and reconciliation commission before the people and then come out openly with what they had done over the years and then ask for forgiveness for whatever bad things that they were involved with - Khawaja Asif has done a bit of that recently by acknowledging regrettably that Pakistan's role in Afghanistan war. Maybe this will assuage the public anger and there might be some build up of trust.

There is ALWAYS a solution. Using strategic weapons on afghanistan and destroying their key civilian infrastructure is one option.

 

[Khansaheeb]

fighting an orgnised army is easier than whatever this war is

They will never fight Pakistan directly , doubt any country will. It is through clandestine means and through fools and traitors that they will undermine Pakistan's security.

Pakistani awam is too brutalised and corrupt to care, behaving more like abused housewives than free people. The people need to stop settling for less and start demanding more. Better wages, better quality of life, better jobs and better education.

 

[Jango]

You think every legal Afghan owns a plaza?

 

[Jango]

Agreed.

A lot of these business owners are ironically more willing to pay taxes than actual Pakistani business owners.

This is entirely political theater.

Maybe our govt is taking some inspiration from their new overlord Mr Trump

 

[Goenitz]

fighting an orgnised army is easier than whatever this war is

the whole world knows how the Taliban fight. GHQ knew that before striking the AFG mainland.