Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Why do people implode against each other at the first sign of external stresses. Internal grievances against each other are almost always at least partially valid. Doesnt mean either side uses an external threat to the collective as a stage for airing these grievances. That is the behaviour of traitors who are more interested in a factions success than the country's success. Open a separate thread and feel feee to hate each other there. But there is a time to have a combined front.
 
Samlee said:
Old enough to know the lows our dollar generals will go to earn dollars
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From all I can see the Army is fighting all over the place while political class is only busy doing politics.

I guess you are one of those people who slept through 2013 and the woke up in 2022 to suddenly find out all the problems with the Army after celebrating 'Same Page' for 4 years ? How convenient this sudden 'holier than thou' awakening is !

If anything, you guys need to urge your political class accountable to throw out Afghans, allow cleanup operations and securing the borders to help secure Pakistanis. Not place hurdles in the way of the Army day and night, badmouth them and then badmouth them while they are tying to handle 2 borders already. Politics can be done later, this is not the time for these kind of statements.
 
Musings said:
My primary concern is that Pakistan hierarchy may succumb to third party intervention and cool the onslaught. I would rather it continue until submission is achieved and objective achieved.
Cool for me to sit in my safe seat and suggest blood loss - long term its for the benefit of our children and future. Clear the crap out and draw lines...... concrete lines.
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I hope they finish the job this time.

Pakistan needs durable peace. Their people should not live in fear.
 
Vapnope said:
There is only one party who is doing it and constantly and consistently for a decade. No other political party and their people are acting like turds when our people are dying.
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The last time Afghanistan and Pakistan fought, these same shitty claims occurred, and I proved just how wrong it was.

I'm not gonna go into it again. Just look up PPP negotiations with the ttp, and PMLN appeal to the ttp to spare Punjab inexhange for the rest of the country.

The point is, bringing in divisive politics is a bad fucking idea when there's a war going on.
 
unconventional said:
There is one simple way everyone can get united right now: Imran Khan and the PTI can issue a public statement they are united with the Pakistani people in supporting the Pakistan Army responding to terrorism from the Taliban/Afghanistan.

Did they issue such a statement? No, of course not. While I won’t call them anti-national, calling for “unity” and not going after the PTI is a bit rich coming from PTI folks.
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No a single KPK based political party has outrightly supported the strikes. That includes JUI/JI/ANP. The support has come from PML-N (Punjab), PPP (Sindh) and MQM (Karachi)

The response in KPK varies from calling for peace to some nationalists suporting Afghanistan.

PTI is the only national party with support within the KPK youth.

PMLN/PPP/ISPR hold zero traction there.

Afghanistan and India would want to frame it as an Afghan/Punjabi issue. The fau--jeeti and Patwari push to frame PTI as anti-national is going to hurt the federation in the coming years.
 
Ali_Baba said:
Will Pakistan return these posts, when the operations are over ??? Did PA return the posts from the previous operation?
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There is a massive clean up going on in every part of the Muslim world. Saudi cleaning up in Yemen; Türkiye cleaning up in Somalia; Turkiye/Pakistan cleaning up in Libya; Saudi/Turkiye cleaning up in Syria etc. This Af-Pak kinetics is the clean up in the Eastern end. This consolidation has to happen for the new “Sunni Axis” to be effective. The real war is yet to begin.


To me, It's the consolidation of two axis and it's not sunni axis but the axis are different.

On one side it's Saudia-Turkey-Pakistan led axis and Iran-Yemen etc is somehow tilting towards this and forming a bigger group. There are many other significant countries like egypt, Indonesia, ex-russian states, and many african countries etc

On 2nd axis it's Israel-UAE-India led axis.

So yes there is massive clean up is going on in muslim world and new axis are forming but axis are different. And yes the real war is yet to begin.
 
That_Guy said:
The last time Afghanistan and Pakistan fought, these same shitty claims occurred, and I proved just how wrong it was.

I'm not gonna go into it again. Just look up PPP negotiations with the ttp, and PMLN appeal to the ttp to spare Punjab inexhange for the rest of the country.

The point is, bringing in divisive politics is a bad fucking idea when there's a war going on.
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These arent just claims, you are willingly ignoring the comments from a specific political party. Negotiation is one thing but siding with Afghans against very own is something i have not seen before despite the fact that both ppp and pmln are also opportunistic bastards.
 
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Nobody is supposed to post about taliban casualties as per taliban
 
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