Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

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This is so retarded, shows you how seriously they are taking this conflict.

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On a serious note, what exactly is the end game here?

We keep on bombing and pounding and all...to what end?

As much as we would love it, we aren't going to kill them all with these strikes.

And the TTA aren't going to suddenly banish or take a heavy handed stance with TTP, since they are very much intertwined in their society, through family relations, tribal affiliation, or simply social assimilation.

So...we think we can force TTA to start operating against TTP in Afghanistan if we keep bombing them? What's the end game exactly?
 
On a serious note, what exactly is the end game here?

We keep on bombing and pounding and all...to what end?

As much as we would love it, we aren't going to kill them all with these strikes.

And the TTA aren't going to suddenly banish or take a heavy handed stance with TTP, since they are very much intertwined in their society, through family relations, tribal affiliation, or simply social assimilation.

So...we think we can force TTA to start operating against TTP in Afghanistan if we keep bombing them? What's the end game exactly?
Don't be a party pooper all the time...go to the powder room and fix your makeup... you ain't looking all that hot.
 
On a serious note, what exactly is the end game here?

We keep on bombing and pounding and all...to what end?

As much as we would love it, we aren't going to kill them all with these strikes.
Demilitarize (eliminate/expend their finite stockpile of munitions) - easy & happening
Buffer zone (or something that functionally resembles it) - harder to get
And the TTA aren't going to suddenly banish or take a heavy handed stance with TTP, since they are very much intertwined in their society, through family relations, tribal affiliation, or simply social assimilation.

So...we think we can force TTA to start operating against TTP in Afghanistan if we keep bombing them? What's the end game exactly?
You just said yourself - TTA and TTP are the same - no distinction
 
On a serious note, what exactly is the end game here?

We keep on bombing and pounding and all...to what end?

As much as we would love it, we aren't going to kill them all with these strikes.

And the TTA aren't going to suddenly banish or take a heavy handed stance with TTP, since they are very much intertwined in their society, through family relations, tribal affiliation, or simply social assimilation.

So...we think we can force TTA to start operating against TTP in Afghanistan if we keep bombing them? What's the end game exactly?

End game is destruction of all terror infrastructure used by Taliban. Where it will end only depend on Taliban support to cross border terrorism. Nothing is off the table.
 
This is so retarded, shows you how seriously they are taking this conflict.

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They are just trying to honor existing “rules”.
 
On a serious note, what exactly is the end game here?

We keep on bombing and pounding and all...to what end?

As much as we would love it, we aren't going to kill them all with these strikes.

And the TTA aren't going to suddenly banish or take a heavy handed stance with TTP, since they are very much intertwined in their society, through family relations, tribal affiliation, or simply social assimilation.

So...we think we can force TTA to start operating against TTP in Afghanistan if we keep bombing them? What's the end game exactly?

Who's trying to kill them?

Bomb their control and offensive apparatus; arms depots, military installations, control nodes ->make tenuous Taliban's control against internal and external local factions and reduce their military capabilities against Pakistan = Possibly more malleable and certainly less capable TTA. An active or passive buffer zone could also be thought off

Sustained intense military pressure isn't about killing people.
 
They are just trying to honor existing “rules”.
That would make sense if the other side was following the Same rules, the reason armies don't typically execute prisoners or mutilate corpses is because the same can be done to your own but the taliban don't follow these rules so it doesn't make sense for us to follow them.
 
That's why a fair few people have been shouting from the top of their lungs, that do not disenfranchise a large chunk of your population so much that they don't give a damn about things anymore.

Aap apnay ghar kay mulazim ko har time maro, har time galiyan do, and basically torture them, but then also expect them to take water your lawn by themselves out of pure love isn't the brightest of strategies.

But this is a discussion for some other time, or never I guess.
Just wondering where this "large chunk" of the population sat when "Memogate" came to fore? Or when PML/Sharif's were accused of being too close to India?

They rallied to the flag. This is what is expected of ALL Pakistanis when external threats/attacks are being mounted on the country. Iranians are a case in point. They have their difference with the ruling Mullah party, but when aggressed, they rallied to the flag. Indians, of all different hue and color, rally to the flag anytime India is perceived to be under attack.

So why these double-standards for the PTI base? Did the rest of Pakistan not take PPP, PML, MQM, and some of the fringe Baloch parties/base to task when they were perceived to be anti-state?
 
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On a serious note, what exactly is the end game here?

We keep on bombing and pounding and all...to what end?

As much as we would love it, we aren't going to kill them all with these strikes.

And the TTA aren't going to suddenly banish or take a heavy handed stance with TTP, since they are very much intertwined in their society, through family relations, tribal affiliation, or simply social assimilation.

So...we think we can force TTA to start operating against TTP in Afghanistan if we keep bombing them? What's the end game exactly?
End game is to keep squeezing certain personalities who have been profiting in centers of leadership and deplete their weapons stocks so those who were making money from this constant terror support rethink their ideas.

But there is an inflection point where people who have nothing will simply react by doing nothing. At that time your then get into a case of forever conflict.

Quite literally the TTP could still continue with flintlocks and molotovs because they are one and the same with TTA today.

So unless you’re willing to basically daisy cutter every village and thermobaric bomb every cave some 200km in depth(if you actually had those weapons) from the border and then run constant surveillance - your hope is that some leadership emerges that basically stops the TTP posture in general from a LE perspective and then your own more reinforced posts and border “walls” is able to stop the remaining trickle.

This is NO POLITICAL solution as fancied by members here either because they live in a fools paradise of assuming people whose livelihood has/is and will likely be until end of times - to go fire 4 mags at someone for $200 while wearing the same pair of clothes for three weeks and using a nestle water bottle - and then come back to make babies, reap opium or small batch crop for $50 - and then repeat the cycle while feeling satisfied with their self from a religious, psychological and monetary perspective.
 
That would make sense if the other side was following the Same rules, the reason armies don't typically execute prisoners or mutilate corpses is because the same can be done to your own but the taliban don't follow these rules so it doesn't make sense for us to follow them.
The whole point of being a muslim is to not lose principles.
 

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