Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[iron shrapnel]

Pakistani Jugado kaam at its finest hahaha

Buy that's not jugado that frame looks like it was made on CNC... It's jugado tech at precision level lol

 

[pashtunkoum]

Your gaslighting won't work anymore. Its just false equivalence.

Your taliban are getting slaughtered and project attock is being flushed down the toilet.

Graveyard of empires May the afghans suffer 1000 years of humiliation.

Sure its "my taliban" not the one jarnaaails were funding for decades?

BTW Afghans have had 1000s of years of owning their own empires from Durranis to Suris to Lodis and Hotak.

Meanwhile some others have yet to not be enslaved once in their life. I'd worry about that.

 

[Starlord]

@Areesh check the flags on this guy, this was exactly were talking about a couple of pages back lol

 

[pashtunkoum]

i dont think it will , kinda hilarious how we lost the narrative war because of our own people .

Again 100% something you hear from Zios. There would be no narrative war to lose if Pakistan didn't bomb soft targets to control an issue they can't control domestically.

 

[Blain2]

Respectfully you are extremely disconnected from reality or looking at facebook comments from trolls and thinking it is poliy.

Our lack of control on terrorism is indeed our problem. Afghans did bring their own issues through refugees but domestic terrorism wasn't one of them. Now we are calling them Namak Haraam and blaming them for crap that is not their job. We've had so many military operations since 2007, Taliban wasn't in control then. Why has the situation not improved?

Ever asked yourself why situation improved when IK was in charge?

This is going to get worse. The military fanboys here behind keyboards have no idea how dangerous it is to instigate an insurgency. Pakistan will lose billions further if this goes on. Pakistan is in desperate need for sane leadership to guide the country through this.

I value your pov but keep in mind that the terrorism problem was always "abetted" from outside. Passing the buck to "military fanboys" (not sure what those are) and using the "insurgency" as a scare tactic is not genuine either.

You mention 2007 timeframe asking why things were bad. You have to remember who was running Afghanistan back then and allowing Pakistani militants refuge. This same hydra with different heads has existed inside of Afghanistan for the past 2 decades.

During IK's term, you state that the situation improved. It improved in KPK because both the Taliban and the PTI were able to align ideologically and the Taliban in Afg decided not to ruffle the feathers during the latter's rule there while focusing on instability in Balochistan. Keep one thing in mind, like ANP, PTI would have been targeted had it continued. This is the nature of the evolving Taliban movement in Afghanistan. They want an ideological takeover in Pakistan similar to what they attained in Afghanistan. Their expansionist tendencies will not stop and this is the reason that their support for TTP is non-negotiable and PTI will eventually be seen by them as a party wedded to the Pakistani constitution. Also, while KPK was enjoying relative calm during IK's term, Balochistan insurgency was raging abetted from Afghanistan.

 

[pashtunkoum]

so are u suggesting people of kpk will start insurgency becaseu of strikes on afg , not a good look on your koum brodie

and yes i have an idea because of the weekly shaheed updates due to tali proxies

Actually I meant people of Afghanistan proper who up until now didn't really give AF but you're turning the whole nation against you

but now that you mention it yes indeed people of KPK as well could flip if it keeps going on. There used to be little to no insurgency in balochistan then look what happened after failed military operations.

I've never seen a KPK more divided in my life until now.

 

[side-winder]

Our lack of control on terrorism is indeed our problem. Afghans did bring their own issues through refugees but domestic terrorism wasn't one of them. Now we are calling them Namak Haraam and blaming them for crap that is not their job. We've had so many military operations since 2007, Taliban wasn't in control then. Why has the situation not improved?

Because of inconsistent policies, divided opinions and lack of national resolve. Every now and then some segments in our system used to feel kharish in their backs to have another round of talks with these barbarians. How did every round of talks end up? With talibs consolidating and re-grouping again everytime.

We did have good success after Op Zarb e Azb with terrorism reduced to almost nill. Guess what happened next?

Ever asked yourself why situation improved when IK was in charge?

Somebody hand in hand with the Generals got another brilliant idea. Let's resettle the TTP bastards which were on the run after being defeated. How did that work out?

The problem with now, unlike in Zarb e Azb, is that the TTA munafiqs are full time free to concentrate on their "mission" Pakistan. So the TTP bastards enjoy their support and hospitality to keep being able to mount attacks in Pakistan.

This is going to get worse. The military fanboys here behind keyboards have no idea how dangerous it is to instigate an insurgency. Pakistan will lose billions further if this goes on. Pakistan is in desperate need for sane leadership to guide the country through this.

Get it. So we should just let the TTP massacre Pakistanis and use afghan soil as their space for re-grouping and arranging resources with active support of TTA regime - we should just passively defend ourselves against TTP attacks and let the TTA fanatics enjoy the show in peace. Right?

Whether the operations solve anything or not. But what really feels satisfying is that TTA munafiqs are getting good payback - from now on, their days of enjoying the show, with an aim to weaken the Pakistani state, in peace are over.

 

[pashtunkoum]

I value your pov but keep in mind that the terrorism problem was always "abetted" from outside.

You mention 2007 timeframe asking why things were bad. You have to remember who was running Afghanistan back then and allowing Pakistani militants refuge. This same hydra with different heads has existed inside of Afghanistan for the past 2 decades.

During IK's term, you state that the situation improved. It improved in KPK because both the Taliban and the PTI were able to align ideologically and the Taliban in Afg decided not to ruffle the feathers during the latter's rule there while focusing on instability in Balochistan. Keep one thing in mind, like ANP, PTI would have been targeted had it continues. This is the nature of Taliban movement in Afghanistan. They want an ideological takeover in Pakistan. Also while KPK was enjoying relative calm during IK's term, Balochistan insurgency was ongoing abetted from Afghanistan.

Pure speculation. If we had continued that way blood to the beast (TTP) would have slowly dried out.

BLA insurgency has nothing to do with this it was military failures and then funded by India to take advantage of the situation. BLA was almost non existent before Musharrafs failed policiies

If IK was left to follow his policy I have no doubt Pakistan would not have to worry about western border at all.

But you tell me, what is the end goal you see from this? You really think this will end Pakistans terror problem?

 

[flyingorca]

One thing is for sure, Taliban will never accuse PAF of bombing Afghanistan women University because they banned them from education.

 

[hasssanali8998]

There would be no narrative war to lose if Pakistan didn't bomb soft targets

where is the evidence, where are the bodies


remember aps , remember imam bargah attack
how so much evidnce was put forward
where is that in this incident
all we have are mysterious eyewitnesses that dont know how to record and talis banning international and afghan media covering it
shamefull how you take the word of taliban goverment over your own peple
go few pages back and see all the evidence posted by @Lion @side-winder and so many more

but party/ethnicity over country i guess

 

[pashtunkoum]

Because of inconsistent policies, divided opinions and lack of national resolve. Every now and then some segments in our system used to feel kharish in their backs to have another round of talks with these barbarians. How did every round of talks end up? With talibs consolidating and re-grouping again everytime.

We did have good success after Op Zarb e Azb with terrorism reduced to almost nill. Guess what happened next?



Somebody hand in hand with the Generals got another brilliant idea. Let's resettle the TTP bastards which were on the run after being defeated. How did that work out?



Get it. So we should just let the TTP massacre Pakistanis and use afghan soil as their space for re-grouping and arranging resources with active support of TTA regime - passively defend ourselves against TTP attacks and let the TTA fanatics enjoy the show in peace. Right?

Whether the operations solve anything or not. But what really feels satisfying is that TTA munafiqs are getting good payback - from now on, their days of enjoying the game in peace are over.

Your recollection is absolutely false. No one allowed TTP to resettle this is ridiculous.

And no one should let TTP massacre but you have to be strategic and think long term what helps Pakistan. Secure the borders, and secure domestic regions first. Sign a deal with TTP and buy out informants from within. Buy local level soldiers make them flip on their commanders. The best way to make someone loyal is to build infrastructure for them. You would see TTP fizzle away eventually when they have no recruitment.

And it may feel satisfying to you but ask mothers whose young children are dying on the border of Pakistan on both sides how satisfying it is to you both. Average Pakistani soldier and Average Afghan who is dying neither want terrorism

 

[hasssanali8998]

No one allowed TTP to resettle this is ridiculous.

like what are we even doing here man

 

[pashtunkoum]

where is the evidence, where are the bodies


remember aps , remember imam bargah attack
how so much evidnce was put forward
where is that in this incident
all we have are mysterious eyewitnesses that dont know how to record and talis banning international and afghan media covering it
shamefull how you take the word of taliban goverment over your own peple
go few pages back and see all the evidence posted by @Lion @side-winder and so many more

but party/ethnicity over country i guess

Really? You constantly use this in all of your posts which I can also easily say ethnic hate before logic to you as well. Are you that insecure you have to keep mentioning this when I never said it?

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

I would be lying if I said that I didn't give a shit. I've never seen these folks up in arms about the countless more casualities suffered in Pakistan, clearly there is a hierarchy for the value of lives.

By all measures, play with fire and you'll get burnt.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Really? You constantly use this in all of your posts which I can also easily say ethnic hate before logic to you as well. Are you that insecure you have to keep mentioning this when I never said it?

yes i dont like to , but sometime its really obvious , cry all you want

it just plain out there , your name , your views , your sheltroeing and excusing tali conduct
shame on us pakistanis, who still value things other than the flag