Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Taimoor said:
I am not worried , rather bemused by the lack of desire to achieve greatness. Conquest and greatness can be traced back throughout known human history. If you as Pakistani are immune to this, then it goes back to original argument how our nation is conditioned to behave in this way. Look at Israelis, screwing up whole region and beyond because they are working with laser focus on their mythical Greater Israel 3000 years ago, which will benefit them and them alone. This is happening right now, and you think its "stupid" in this day and age?
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Yes greater Israel is a bloody stupid prophecy that not only finds opposition among the majority of the world but Judaism itself. It means destruction only and will never come to fruition.

Greatness in modern days is not invading others and trying to occupy their territories forever, it is to uplift living standard of your people, inventing something, discovering something, making advances in exploration, making sure future of coming generations is secure and prosperous. It is not like we lack any capable defenses.

Pakistan is relatively a very young nation, it still has a long way ahead and who knows what future looks like. The need of this hour is survival and preservation, not making verbal stupid claims.
 
I*R*A said:
Yes greater Israel is a bloody stupid prophecy that not only finds opposition among the majority of the world but Judaism itself. It means destruction only and will never come to fruition.

Greatness in modern days is not invading others and trying to occupy their territories forever, it is to uplift living standard of your people, inventing something, discovering something, making advances in exploration, making sure future of coming generations is secure and prosperous. It is not like we lack any capable defenses.

Pakistan is relatively a very young nation, it still has a long way ahead and who knows what future looks like. The need of this hour is survival and preservation, not making verbal stupid claims.
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Long term future goals is what give you the motivation and desire to work harder today in the small stuff.

And give you the direction and clarity in guiding your politics.

A country without any desires or goals as a collective, and just trying to survive, no matter how poor it is, is like a confused headless chicken.

From a political nation building perspective even the most poorest of nations had dreams. America started off with manifest destiny.
 
Master Chief said:
Tell you what. Am happy to ruminate with you and @Taimoor on the concept of "Greater Pakistan" on a dedicated thread. I think we have derailed this one enough with this hypothetical conjecturism. It has little to no relevance with regards to current operations against Afghanistan.
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I will try to open it for discussion but please keep it free from insults or threats. There's no need for that from either side, we have enough toxicity as it is and it only hinders good discussion.

[Never mind, I am speed limited so I can't even post more until another 12 hours 💀]
 
Master Chief said:
Yes, you can certainly try such behaviour and such a tone to my face. Feel free.

Tit for tat is fine except when it makes you yourself look like a bigger tit than the enemy you have just been ridiculing.

God help us all if "Greater Pakistan" is uttered by our officials. Do you not think for one second that this would make you a laughing stock?

Happy to discuss these ideas from a purely philosophical angle on a dedicated thread.

Tag me if you open one.
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Not the behaviour rather standing ground, in what one believe in, be it online or in person. You dont like it? tough..

You seems touchy about others opinions, does it even matter? We laugh and dismiss AKhand Bharat, Loy Afghan.. but thats not the issue here. Its about your own people, galvanising them towards some collective achievements and goals. That "promised 3000 years ago" is now a meme material, but does that dissuade Zionists a bit towards their aims?

What you are exhibiting is mental slavery, where you are more concerned about other might think of you then what you think of yourself.
 
Master Chief said:
Tell you what. Am happy to ruminate with you and @Taimoor on the concept of "Greater Pakistan" on a dedicated thread. I think we have derailed this one enough with this hypothetical conjecturism. It has little to no relevance with regards to current operations against Afghanistan.
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Someone highlight a tweet from an Afghan depicting Loy Afghan, I replied to it and then you jumped in.
 
Hopefully Pessimistic said:
Long term future goals is what give you the motivation and desire to work harder today in the small stuff.

And give you the direction and clarity in guiding your politics.

A country without any desires or goals as a collective, and just trying to survive, no matter how poor it is, is like a confused headless chicken.

From a political nation building perspective even the most poorest of nations had dreams. America started off with manifest destiny.
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Why did Muslims of this region wanted a separate country? That was our goal from the start.

Accomplishing that and that alone should be our long term goal, so is revival of Raja Dahir and tracing his DNA necessary for that?

Nobody said there won't be ups and down on the way and nobody promised that it will happen in your lifetime. As long as the next generation or the generation after that achieves this goal, I am at peace with it.
 
I*R*A said:
Post the video Ghazi sb. This is just a screen grab showing some people gathered together.
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A good video explaining how FATA became the Paradise of Terrorists.

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I*R*A said:
Yes greater Israel is a bloody stupid prophecy that not only finds opposition among the majority of the world but Judaism itself. It means destruction only and will never come to fruition.

Greatness in modern days is not invading others and trying to occupy their territories forever, it is to uplift living standard of your people, inventing something, discovering something, making advances in exploration, making sure future of coming generations is secure and prosperous. It is not like we lack any capable defenses.

Pakistan is relatively a very young nation, it still has a long way ahead and who knows what future looks like. The need of this hour is survival and preservation, not making verbal stupid claims.
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I am not here giving my personal opinion about greater Israel project, rather telling you that they are working tirelessly towards it because its their collective goal. Me and you can laugh it off, but they simply dont give two hoots about our opinions. You said its "stupid" idea of land grab in this day and age, I say its happening right before your eyes unless you are dumb deaf or blind.

This docile behaviour will not work how world is shaping up now, and future certainly looks a lot more like law of the jungle. Shape up or become irrelevant.
 
Taimoor said:
I am not here giving my personal opinion about greater Israel project, rather telling you that they are working tirelessly towards it because its their collective goal. Me and you can laugh it off, but they simply dont give two hoots about our opinions. You said its "stupid" idea of land grab in this day and age, I say its happening right before your eyes unless you are dumb deaf or blind.

This docile behaviour will not work how world is shaping up now, and future certainly looks a lot more like law of the jungle. Shape up or become irrelevant.
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Isreal is successful because Arabs did not pay any attention to their defenses. Do you think the world can treat Pakistan like Palestine? We may be poor, we may be brown skinned, we may not have Akhand Pakistan, Loy Pakistan or Pakistani Sultanat e Usmania dreams, but one thing is for sure no Israel or any other country can treat us like Palestine or iran. We have proven that.

Here, Iss tasveer may sab hy lal topi aur milestones to achieve b. ub khush?

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UndercoverJIX said:
So can we guess that more than blaming KPK Govt, iy was failure of border control and Intelligence.

Remaining % will drop significantly, if both aspects are omproved, because we still have weak points..
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Let's hope KPK Government won't be a hurdle once again to the "border control and intelligence" in the near to mid-term future like it had been since 2019.
 
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