Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Dalit]

After izrael woman its now afghan!?
Too bad that Bootiful Afghan woman look like hardcore dudes and smell like shit although you lot are used to it.

He probably has one in his basement somewhere in the slums of Mumbai.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

This is the entire root cause of the issue but if you bring it up, they'll call you racist. They aren't retarded, they are simply speaking from a Pashtun nationalist perspective.

This is what popular 'educated' Pashtun politicians say, on the same line as PTM & TTP, subtly ethnic conflict lines, can you imagine how much worse the tribal locals are?

It's a massive deception that locals are "scared" of the Taliban, they are sympathetic to it in many pockets in many ways. If they were truly against it, they would pick up arms and violently expel them themselves. We all know how they flex being violent. Secular PTM supporters are often romanticising about the Taliban. They see it as representative of Pashtuns vs evil Panjabi sazish and control.

Everyone ignores this is a tribal Pashtun insurgency and has their support cauze of da evil Panjabaiii enemy.

It was always about ethnicity and Punjabis, religious manjaan is a veil of legitimacy to give it moral feul.

As I was saying, the *ONLY* reason the TTP insurgency is still surving in KPK is because the local support, tolerance and sympathies tribal Pashtuns give to them.

Even their "educated" politicans believe in the narrative TTP uses and weaponise ethnicity so of course the average street/tribal individual will be worse.

Not just politicians, but the entire provinces government is infected with disloyal rotten apples:

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[Ibbi32]

I truly think Pakistani establishment has the highest casualty tolerance out of any government in the world, big reason being public pressure is not a concept to them.

Also pisses me off soldiers die everyday but whenever a high ranking officer dies do they act. Are colonels and majors the only thing worth going to war over?

 

[Ibbi32]

If we can humiliate India, what chance do the Afghans have

Its not about embarrassing focus needs to be total extermination

 

[Jungibaaz]

The TTP and IEA are bedfellows and have been for a very long time, the TTP do not recognize our state and constitution, the IEA does not recognize our border and hosts the TTP. They butchered 150 schoolkids and played football with our martyr's heads.

Yet still.... post-US withdrawal Pakistan's first instinct was dialogue and reproachment. Since then, we've only been targeted non-stop.

What is there left to discuss?!?!

At some point, we need to be sure of ourselves.

The Pakistani state has its flaws, but it is still a bastion of dignity for its people, the alternative is visible in the plight of Muslims from Gaza to India.

It is important for us all to remember that khwarij isn't just an invented term, it describes a scourge on Muslims who have existed since the time of the blessed Prophet PBUH. The first among their rank even told our Prophet PBUH to "Fear Allah" or "Be Just". It is in Sahih Muslim and Bukhari.

These people are not worth wasting your breath on, TTP are from among them.

Keep fighting the khawarij so long as they make war on you, fight them, fight their handlers, fight their hosts.

 

[muz]

Neither did I. Oh messiah = IK?

you know what you meant when you wrote it dont play dumb

 

[Distant_Observer]

As I was saying, the *ONLY* reason the TTP insurgency is still surving in KPK is because the local support, tolerance and sympathies tribal Pashtuns give to them.

Even their "educated" politicans believe in the narrative TTP uses and weaponise ethnicity so of course the average street/tribal individual will be worse.

Not just politicians, but the entire provinces government is infected with disloyal rotten apples:

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They say this figure is 2000 but its a lot more than this.

All we ask for is this province cleans house so Pakistan can become safer, climb up the passport index, climbs down the terrorism index and bring in some much needed FDI.

What US were referring to here is the taliban ideologues in Pakistani military establishment and KP, not Pakistan in its entirety.

The Hamid Gul types and their infactuation for the taliban is what caused mass confusion in Pakistani policy during the WOT and the shitshow we see today in KP.

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[atmi_bum]

Well at least Pakistan is doing something that is making bums like you go full afterburner.

Pakistan created the Taliban, nurtured it, armed it, and used it as a proxy in Afghanistan, declaring victory when the Taliban returned to power. The Americans were out. The Indians were out. Finally, after a long time, Pakistan's western border was peaceful, but only for a short time.

Pakistan forgot Afghans were Afghans, and things went to hell. Pakistan's Afghanistan policy is a total failure.

How this gives India the burns is funny since it had nothing to do with it. Still, India is enjoying the show.

And they defeated both because of heavy support from Pakistan across the border??

Are you admitting that Pakistan was a backstabber? Ironic, given this is how Pakistan sees the Taliban, too. What comes around goes around, no?

If we can humiliate India, what chance do the Afghans have

How? Afghanistan is not India. It won't fight a war like India would. It has no air force, no navy, and no air defense. Short of a ground invasion, what is Pakistan going to do? As we have seen in Iran, simply using air power is not enough.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Pakistan created the Taliban

nope

nurtured it, armed it,

so did the entire westrern world

Are you admitting that Pakistan was a backstabber?

nope just looked out for our interests ,

Pakistan's western border was peaceful

it was never peacefull tbh

The Indians were out. Finally, after a long time,

lmao you guys were never IN to begin with

in Iran, simply using air power is not enough

yeah man compare iran to backword country like afghanistan
if you have nothing smart to add to the conversation , **** OFF

 

[Samurai]

This is the entire root cause of the issue but if you bring it up, they'll call you racist. They aren't retarded, they are simply speaking from a Pashtun nationalist perspective.

This is what popular 'educated' Pashtun politicians say, on the same line as PTM & TTP, subtly ethnic conflict lines, can you imagine how much worse the tribal locals are?

It's a massive deception that locals are "scared" of the Taliban, they are sympathetic to it in many pockets in many ways. If they were truly against it, they would pick up arms and violently expel them themselves. We all know how they flex being violent. Secular PTM supporters are often romanticising about the Taliban. They see it as representative of Pashtuns vs evil Panjabi sazish and control.

Everyone ignores this is a tribal Pashtun insurgency and has their support cauze of da evil Panjabaiii enemy.

It was always about ethnicity and Punjabis, religious manjaan is a veil of legitimacy to give it moral feul.

As my father always said it, its Pashtunistan issue always. Its a long standing issue from the time of sarhadi gandhi till now. The establishment managed to quash the rebellion and the ultra-nationalistic tendencies among the Pashtun, but its still there and simmering. I previously said it that, any sane nation or people living in a country who are fed up of injustice and conflict, go out, protest and resist - heck even some Israeli are protesting against Netanyahu or what Zionist Israel is doing. But Pakistan is that one sick country on the planet, whose people including us won't go out and chant "Death to the TPP" and "Revenge against TTP" etc. People here are so desensitized to the issues especially when some others are facing it or even themselves that I even believe that if tomorrow India invades Pakistan and takes over, people here in Sindh will not give a damn.... maybe because our lives have become so hard and economy is so sh** that all people care about is just trying to survive with their families.

 

[I*R*A]

you know what you meant when you wrote it dont play dumb

I said Messiah and meant messiah, literally someone who can gradually get rid of corrupt system from Pakistan. You named IK, the only messiah in your view.

A lady from PTI is reported saying that "they can rid province of the terrorists in three months", she further said that "either they (the terrorists) will die or we die" . How is that going to work? Do PTI have beforehand knowledge of whereabouts of terrorists and their facilitators? This is getting serious now, it looks like PTI KP is very much aware of sensitive information and is withholding it from LEAs and Pakistan Military. If this is the case, then this is no more criminal negligence on part of PTI KP but treason.

The lady also seemed to be very fond of PTM "Pashtun Tahafuz Movement". Does PTI - KP fully support PTM and whatever that movement is trying to achieve? Personally I do not understand why there needs to be a Pashtun Tahafuz Movement, when it is simply Pashtuns killing Pashtuns.

 

[SteppeWolff]

Pathan folks love fighting. They fight each other as well.

If you have to subdue them, you need to use Mongol strategy.

Listen kuni, this terrorism isn't a Pashtun issue. Its an Afghan issue, Afghans belonging to all ethnicites and groups.

They are not hard to be dealt with, its just that our state and our population have a weird soft spot for Afghans, alot of blame for which falls on establishment which has for decades glorified these rag tag militias.

 

[AjitWadhwa]

Listen kuni, this terrorism isn't a Pashtun issue. Its an Afghan issue, Afghans belonging to all ethnicites and groups.

They are not hard to be dealt with, its just that our state and our population have a weird soft spot for Afghans, alot of blame for which falls on establishment which has for decades glorified these rag tag militias.

I didn't want to offend anyone. My apologies if my post hurt anyone's sentiment.

After going through posts of Pakistanis, one would think that all regional parties in KPK including PTI, PTM and ANP have a soft for TTP. Pasthun nationalism is very strong it seems.

 

[I*R*A]

After going through posts of Pakistanis, one would think that all regional parties in KPK including PTI, PTM and ANP have a soft for TTP. Pasthun nationalism is very strong it seems.

For Pakistani Pashtuns, it is not more of a soft spot but confused mental state phase.

Love for Pakistan is strong too. This is just to let you know, before you proceed someone nonsense in your watsapp university groups, which will then be picked up likes of Gaurav Arya or Goswamis or even the desi James Bond, and they start discussing some stupid fantasies.

 

[AjitWadhwa]

For Pakistani Pashtuns, it is not more of a soft spot but confused mental state phase.

Love for Pakistan is strong too. This is just to let you know, before you proceed someone nonsense in your watsapp university groups, which will then be picked up likes of Gaurav Arya or Goswamis or even the desi James Bond, and they start discussing some stupid fantasies.

Arya, Goswami types are pure retards.

They think Muslim Afghan & Pasthun love Hindu idolaters. Pure cringe.

They have their own tribal law which takes precedence over the Constitution. Hindu jaats too have a similar system Khaap panchayat but the state doesn't give them a free hand.

If the confused mental state is caused by Ethnic nationalism, then pan Islamism would be a good strategy to counter it.