Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Basically this, fact is as long as the war is being fought inside Pakistan it's a automatic victory for the Talibunds, ATP I think a Soviet style devastation campaign is the only solution to the Afghan problem, except while the Soviets spared major urban centers they should be the target for us.
China says no, so you sit down. China orders Pakistan around like a dog, Pakistani national interests or lives don't matter in front of China.

Plus your state is scared of mass protests and civil unrests by Pashtuns in support of Afghans.
 
TTP will never have much success in Punjab as long as its locked off for ((that)) ethnicity. It is simple logic.

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yep three s bombs this week , they are using their best weapons . ttp is doing photoshoots in attock ( so ttp are advancing not retreating )
and we are still doing nothing not a single peep more news about iran thna about afgahnistan
Basically this, fact is as long as the war is being fought inside Pakistan it's a automatic victory for the Talibunds, ATP I think a Soviet style devastation campaign is the only solution to the Afghan problem, except while the Soviets spared major urban centers they should be the target for us.
I always say this that if we reverse the firepower and military strength disparity between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Pakistanis would be getting genocided right now.

The state in spirit is the epitome of cuckedness.

20 years in this war and the high ups still haven't learnt anything. Afghans respect power and strength, and these dmbfcks ruling our country would rather negotiate or be like Shahbaz Sharif and cut side deals.
 
Every Pashtun is an Afghan, therefore it is easy for Afghanistan to bring the fight to Pakistan because how many Pashtuns does it have? Millions. They are deeply sympathetic to Afghanistan and many also to the TTP.
You are part of the problem
 
I always say this that if we reverse the firepower and military strength disparity between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Pakistanis would be getting genocided right now.

The state in spirit is the epitome of cuckedness.

20 years in this war and the high ups still haven't learnt anything. Afghans respect power and strength, and these dmbfcks ruling our country would rather negotiate or be like Shahbaz Sharif and cut side deals.
Look at the Israelis for example, in a Span 3 years they have essentially neutered all their regional adversaries through sheer ruthless action.
 
Look at the Israelis for example, in a Span 3 years they have essentially neutered all their regional adversaries through sheer ruthless action.
They care about their people, but do we? We might have the highest casualty tolerance out there, atleast the Afghans hit back with whatever they have when we bomb them.
 
While you are typing your gibberish, Pashtun aman committees are hunting Talibs, like they did back in the day too.
After they begged to be handed over the Taliban like the Swat negotiated deal and then had a change of mind.

Let us face the truth and not tip toe around it.
 
yeah apparently locals and police from bannu have formed a hunting party( aman commitee) and are now killing kharijies , 3 killed so far and they just started today , people are so tired of the state they are taking the initiative
im glad.

ive believed for years that us as people need to start forming our own militias, because of the army doesnt want to clean up, we will. Glad this is going on, maybe munir will wake up.
 
Every Pashtun is an Afghan, therefore it is easy for Afghanistan to bring the fight to Pakistan because how many Pashtuns does it have? Millions. They are deeply sympathetic to Afghanistan and many also to the TTP.
many punjabis, baloch, sindhis, etc are also sympathetic to the TTP and Afghanistan due to sharia, whats your point?
 
After they begged to be handed over the Taliban like the Swat negotiated deal and then had a change of mind.

Let us face the truth and not tip toe around it.
Yeah, lets label the second largest ethnic group of Pakistan as terrorists, after already alienating them heavily, and let's have a full-fledged civil war on our hands.

You sure you have Pakistan's best interests in your mind?
 
There is no cohesive Pakistani state response most times because there is no cohesive "Pakistani".

In the establishment you have lobby groups belonging to various different sectors, whether it be news & media owners, wadheras, feudals, industrialists, lawyers, provincial elites, business owners, mafia groups like sugar, electricity mafia, etc and last but not least, the military.

Now all of these are of different ethnicities and sects. Many are Pashtuns who are strongly pro-Afghanistan, they advocate for mass immigration into Pakistan for demographic goals, they subtly are very pro Afghan nationalism over Pakistan. Their goals are ethnic interests. They oppose Pakistani interests seen as "Punjabi". Then you have the Sindhis, they don't want challenge to PPP in Sindh or Wadheras, they want Karachi under their control. So on and on with other groups like Shias to Iran.

In this muddled environment, you cannot expect a cohesive policy because you are being internally subverted against your interests. They possess pressure groups like rallying ethno nationalist sentiment.

Now you can hate Afghanistan all you want for being aggressively violent and anti-Pakistan, but the Pashtuns rule their through violence and iron fist for centuries. No issue there, they kill you with impunity.

Pakistan cannot lift a finger without risking upsetting some local lobby group or some international ally.

You be aggressive against Afghanistan? Now you upset the mullahs and Pashtun nationalists that deeply penetrated the state, you risk local riots.
 
Look at the Israelis for example, in a Span 3 years they have essentially neutered all their regional adversaries through sheer ruthless action.
Exactly , they eliminated the hezbolla leadership like it was nothing , the intelligence level is crazy . Only if ISI wasnt busy in overthrowing goverments , we would have too seen the head of noor wali mehsud.
 

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