Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Taliban threatening Asim Munir and Pakistan directly

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[Oscar]

Taliban threatening Asim Munir and Pakistan directly

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FM uncle is too lost in the opium of his personal wins with Iran and elsewhere.
His coterie is busy with running the usual Pakistani story of "emperor's new clothes".
You practically have no decision making happening at the strategic level for Afghanistan or Balochistan - and whatever tactical level decisions are made are down to commanders operating in complete "dont rock the boat" mode.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

FM uncle is too lost in the opium of his personal wins with Iran and elsewhere.
His coterie is busy with running the usual Pakistani story of "emperor's new clothes".
You practically have no decision making happening at the strategic level for Afghanistan or Balochistan - and whatever tactical level decisions are made are down to commanders operating in complete "dont rock the boat" mode.

saw this on X and its damn true we are a confused crowd

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[Watandar]

Were they getting the weapons, equipment, and money from the same place you produce your facts from? The 8 Indian consulates right besides the border, the utter impunity of the support from the Afghan and Indian governments...Most of us aren't dishonest or dense enough to forget that time.

8 Indian consulates only ? I remember there were 18 or 22 claimed. Those consulates don't exist anymore (assuming they ever did) so where does the TTP get its increasingly sophisticated sniper rifles and drones from now ?

Or because I'm not an insecure, shameless, disingenuous little poser twisting myself into a pretzel so as to peddle any and all kinds of refuse in support of my useless and senseless biases, loyalties, and allegiances just because that's all I have to measure the world and my worth by. That is something you will never understand.

I do understand the self destructive and suicidal Afghan policies GHQ dimwits have followed since 1979, whose only result has been to turn the country into another Afghanistan.

 

[Oscar]

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While the issue of what the Bachabaz Afghans would do versus the consequences of it are debatable - the issue is that much like the Soviets had success prior to support of US and other parties - Pakistan is losing the window to put the Taliban in their place because eventually just like the Russians - Pakistani economy is in doldrums, it is not responding to the havens that are causing it losses due to both international and internal restraints(real and made up).

 

[maverik]

The reality is that we are so completely overstretched across the entire country right now that we simply do not have the capacity to engage the Taliban in a broader or high intensity conflict. That is the exact reason why we are just staying quiet in the face of their constant poking ...a country run by cavemen they can do whatever they want because they literally have nothing to lose in return..

We have been overstretched by the Azad Kashmir issue, which we have ignored for far too long. Now, regular ordinary people there are turning against the state. It is the exact same mistake we made when we let Pashteen work freely and spread his venom among Waziristan. The same script is now playing out with Sindhudesh and the BYC. This coordinated response.. hitting us from both within and from outside is the most difficult situation our country has ever faced... the chess is being played from both side and we are in a difficult situation at the moment..
The Solution....
What I feel we need to do to deal with this is something I have always advocated for on this forum the American way. The Americans could have defeated the Japanese by fighting a deadly, prolonged conventional war. Instead, to break the absolute fighting spirit out of them, they chose the nuclear option. To me, that was the best solution among many others available to them.

We have to adopt a similar, though slightly different, approach to deal with our current threat. In my personal opinion, we should execute a large scale, deep decapitation strike on the Taliban leadership all at once. It needs to be a high intensity operation of a very short duration... and later we absorb their retaliation by launching low-yield nuclear strikes on the Pashtun belt.

I am a Pakhtoon myself, and I honestly feel this has become necessary. They are the only ones standing against Pakistan. The Tajiks, Uzbeks, and all the others have no real issue with us; in fact, they have simply been hijacked by the Pashtun Taliban. Once that thread is eliminated, it will create a domino effect on the BLA. With no safe sanctuaries left to hide in inside a radioactive zone, we have to build that invisible neuclear wall on our western border ..we can finally and completely focus our attention on India. All this depend iffffff America will allow us...

 

[Oscar]

8 Indian consulates only ? I remember there were 18 or 22 claimed. Those consulates don't exist anymore (assuming they ever did) so where does the TTP get its increasingly sophisticated sniper rifles and drones from now ?

Firearms & Small Arms (300,000+ of 427,300 supplied) and left in Afghanistan on withdrawal​

Per the official DoD congressional report:

• ~358,530 assault rifles (M4, M16, AK-47)
• ~126,295 pistols (Beretta M9, Glock 19)
• ~64,363 machine guns (M240, M249)
• Barrett M82 .50-cal sniper rifles, M24 sniper rifles
• Total: more than 300,000 of 427,300 weapons confirmed left in-country

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Heavy Weapons & Munitions​

• M119 105mm howitzers and additional towed artillery
• AT-4 anti-tank rockets, Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles
• Air-to-ground munitions valued at ~$6.54 million
• ~1,537,000 pieces of small arms ammunition (~$48M value)

• ~500,000 firearms are now unaccounted for — lost, sold, or smuggled to militant groups, per BBC/UN Security Council sources (April 2025)
• The Taliban privately admitted to a UN Sanctions Committee that at least half the stockpile is unaccounted for
• U.S. weapons are confirmed to be surfacing in Pakistan in the hands of TTP and other militant groups
• The remaining Taliban-held equipment (Black Hawks, Humvees, M4s, NVGs) forms the core of their security apparatus as of 2026

So, I would not go all conspiracy theory and so on - the weapons were all there.
And getting 10 drones with engines into Afghanistan isnt exactly rocket science - Entire Cullinans, Bentley's and thousands of other automobiles were/are regularly smuggled across into Pakistan from the land routes so I am sure drones are no problem if flown by India through air routes via Dubai.

 

[Oscar]

The reality is that we are so completely overstretched across the entire country right now that we simply do not have the capacity to engage the Taliban in a broader or high intensity conflict. That is the exact reason why we are just staying quiet in the face of their constant poking ...a country run by cavemen they can do whatever they want because they literally have nothing to lose in return..

We have been overstretched by the Azad Kashmir issue, which we have ignored for far too long. Now, regular ordinary people there are turning against the state. It is the exact same mistake we made when we let Pashteen work freely and spread his venom among Waziristan. The same script is now playing out with Sindhudesh and the BYC. This coordinated response.. hitting us from both within and from outside is the most difficult situation our country has ever faced... the chess is being played from both side and we are in a difficult situation at the moment..
The Solution....
What I feel we need to do to deal with this is something I have always advocated for on this forum the American way. The Americans could have defeated the Japanese by fighting a deadly, prolonged conventional war. Instead, to break the absolute fighting spirit out of them, they chose the nuclear option. To me, that was the best solution among many others available to them.

We have to adopt a similar, though slightly different, approach to deal with our current threat. In my personal opinion, we should execute a large scale, deep decapitation strike on the Taliban leadership all at once. It needs to be a high intensity operation of a very short duration... and later we absorb their retaliation by launching low-yield nuclear strikes on the Pashtun belt.

I am a Pakhtoon myself, and I honestly feel this has become necessary. They are the only ones standing against Pakistan. The Tajiks, Uzbeks, and all the others have no real issue with us; in fact, they have simply been hijacked by the Pashtun Taliban. Once that thread is eliminated, it will create a domino effect on the BLA. With no safe sanctuaries left to hide in inside a radioactive zone, we have to build that invisible neuclear wall on our western border ..we can finally and completely focus our attention on India. All this depend iffffff America will allow us...

Qayamat is closer than any Pakistani willingness and capacity(diplomatic, internal cohesion, military strength to absorb consequences) of a nuclear weapons use.

 

[Oscar]

I really find this so laughable on people boasting of their own ethnicity as if they havent looked at themselves in the mirror and that of their own peoples before pointing fingers -
Yun tu pakhtun bhi ho, Gujjar bhi ho, Sardar bhi ho - abay insaan ke bache bhi ho?

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

The bottom line is

1. We have coward pacificists that run our country from the elites to the military to the politicians who worship UN rulebook like its their god, they have no sense of nationalistic cunningness like a serious competitive state (Iran, India, even taliban)

2. Pakistani strategic policy is always a disaster because pakistani identity is fake, its just a religious identity crisis, they always operate in the framework of this confused identity crisis and religious confusion and have no clarity

ive come to agree with these two points seeing discussion on twitter, its quite accurate

 

[Watandar]

Firearms & Small Arms (300,000+ of 427,300 supplied) and left in Afghanistan on withdrawal​

Per the official DoD congressional report:

• ~358,530 assault rifles (M4, M16, AK-47)
• ~126,295 pistols (Beretta M9, Glock 19)
• ~64,363 machine guns (M240, M249)
• Barrett M82 .50-cal sniper rifles, M24 sniper rifles
• Total: more than 300,000 of 427,300 weapons confirmed left in-country

---

Heavy Weapons & Munitions​

• M119 105mm howitzers and additional towed artillery
• AT-4 anti-tank rockets, Carl Gustaf recoilless rifles
• Air-to-ground munitions valued at ~$6.54 million
• ~1,537,000 pieces of small arms ammunition (~$48M value)

• ~500,000 firearms are now unaccounted for — lost, sold, or smuggled to militant groups, per BBC/UN Security Council sources (April 2025)
• The Taliban privately admitted to a UN Sanctions Committee that at least half the stockpile is unaccounted for
• U.S. weapons are confirmed to be surfacing in Pakistan in the hands of TTP and other militant groups
• The remaining Taliban-held equipment (Black Hawks, Humvees, M4s, NVGs) forms the core of their security apparatus as of 2026

So, I would not go all conspiracy theory and so on - the weapons were all there.
And getting 10 drones with engines into Afghanistan isnt exactly rocket science - Entire Cullinans, Bentley's and thousands of other automobiles were/are regularly smuggled across into Pakistan from the land routes so I am sure drones are no problem if flown by India through air routes via Dubai.

No conspiracy theory for me. I was just responding in kind to some ***** posters around here.

The TTP got support from CIA and NDS in the past as retaliation for Pakistan supporting the Taliban. Now the TTP have the support of the Taliban itself, all the weapons the US deliberately left behind as an FU to Pakistan, and a much bigger haven in all of Afghanistan.

These humanitarian flights to Afghanistan for food and medicine are also used to supply weapons to the Taliban, just like the UAE does for the RSF in Sudan.

Else there are arms markets in Pakistan and robust border smuggling networks that can supply TTP or BLA or whoever with weapons and tech long as they have the $$.

 

[Watandar]

The reality is that we are so completely overstretched across the entire country right now that we simply do not have the capacity to engage the Taliban in a broader or high intensity conflict. That is the exact reason why we are just staying quiet in the face of their constant poking ...a country run by cavemen they can do whatever they want because they literally have nothing to lose in return..

We have been overstretched by the Azad Kashmir issue, which we have ignored for far too long. Now, regular ordinary people there are turning against the state. It is the exact same mistake we made when we let Pashteen work freely and spread his venom among Waziristan. The same script is now playing out with Sindhudesh and the BYC. This coordinated response.. hitting us from both within and from outside is the most difficult situation our country has ever faced... the chess is being played from both side and we are in a difficult situation at the moment..
The Solution....
What I feel we need to do to deal with this is something I have always advocated for on this forum the American way. The Americans could have defeated the Japanese by fighting a deadly, prolonged conventional war. Instead, to break the absolute fighting spirit out of them, they chose the nuclear option. To me, that was the best solution among many others available to them.

We have to adopt a similar, though slightly different, approach to deal with our current threat. In my personal opinion, we should execute a large scale, deep decapitation strike on the Taliban leadership all at once. It needs to be a high intensity operation of a very short duration... and later we absorb their retaliation by launching low-yield nuclear strikes on the Pashtun belt.

I am a Pakhtoon myself, and I honestly feel this has become necessary. They are the only ones standing against Pakistan. The Tajiks, Uzbeks, and all the others have no real issue with us; in fact, they have simply been hijacked by the Pashtun Taliban. Once that thread is eliminated, it will create a domino effect on the BLA. With no safe sanctuaries left to hide in inside a radioactive zone, we have to build that invisible neuclear wall on our western border ..we can finally and completely focus our attention on India. All this depend iffffff America will allow us...

Nuclear strike on Afghanistan lol konsi dunya tum log rehte ho ?

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Nuclear strike on Afghanistan lol konsi dunya tum log rehte ho ?

Pakistan could do it and get away with it too lol

Just saturate entire southern Afghanistan and depopulate it instantly with an fast track buffer zone!

 

[aurelianpilled]

cavemen out there having FPV drones with DJI-like quality cameras, proper training to lower the altitude, and then release the munition, unlike our ones dropping the munition from a very, very high altitude (almost an orbital strike), jouke majority times meters away girta... a few of our policemen were injured in this attack + hell, aglon ne injured policemen ki pictures bhi dhund ke social media accounts se lgadi at the end sahi hai

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[Oscar]

No conspiracy theory for me. I was just responding in kind to some ***** posters around here.

The TTP got support from CIA and NDS in the past as retaliation for Pakistan supporting the Taliban. Now the TTP have the support of the Taliban itself, all the weapons the US deliberately left behind as an FU to Pakistan, and a much bigger haven in all of Afghanistan.

These humanitarian flights to Afghanistan for food and medicine are also used to supply weapons to the Taliban, just like the UAE does for the RSF in Sudan.

Else there are arms markets in Pakistan and robust border smuggling networks that can supply TTP or BLA or whoever with weapons and tech long as they have the $$.

On that same note, the double game played was precisely to prevent the scenario being faced today and unfortunately is still faced because the so called pan islamists in DHAistan cannot understand the problem is the bloody Afghan and NOT whether they come in as Northern Alliance or Taliban.
The Afghan sees the people of this area as inferior and wants ethnic territory back - that goal has jack shit to do with whether are killing each other next tuesday for one cause or the other.