Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

Their own country is on fire with both Western provinces disputed by separatist militants to the point they are releasing clownish staged videos pretending they are killing militants, yet they keep signing more defence pacts that they will probably not even be able to honour.

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Hopefully Pessimistic said:
Their own country is on fire with both Western provinces disputed by separatist militants to the point they are releasing clownish staged videos pretending they are killing militants, yet they keep signing more defence pacts that they will probably not even be able to honour.

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These pacts are vital for the not only Pakistans future, but also the regions future

This will super charge our military, bring in vital investment and allow us to establish shared military equipment,. including Pakistani weapons based in those countries

India is our real enemy and pushing them and planning against them is vital and this is part of the process


Afghans and Baloch are a different issue,
It's a deep seated ethnocentric issue, that we have to deal with over time,
 
ghazi52 said:
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If you just send them back they learn nothing,

Make it a death sentence for entering Pakistan and others will learn
 
I think it's safe to say the Pakistani military doesn't have the conviction or willpower to deal with the separatist problem. They are just trying to cheaply manage it by censoring all information coming out and doing basic "intelligence operations", while the militants continue to dispute territory and carry out geurilla attacks.

The problem with the brown sepoy military is that it has no true sense of nationalism to make it truly want to go on the offensive which requires putting in a lot effort and wanting to secure territory.

Any serious international player (Turkey, China, India) would have initiated an emergency in the province and surged forces but they don't mind sitting back doing censorship because they only want to do the bare minimim job and leech off the state's resources in their fancy mess buildings.
 
Distant_Observer said:
These are just civilians.

The narco smuggling kingpins and their workers must get VIP treatment from the locals at the border.
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As is always the case. When I worked in Kabul let me tell you, the small time peddlers were making a few million dollars per annum off heroin, the actual trade was worth 1.5Billion USD per year, where do you think that lion share was going?

To the warlords and their chums who got into Afghan Parliament and wrecked the country 😂
 
ghazi52 said:
Ata Omar: The act of Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi in destroying idols was a mistake, and respect must be shown to all religionsAfghanistan's Minister of Agriculture Ata Omar said during a speech in India that Sultan Mahmud Ghaznavi had made a mistake by destroying idols. He stated that respect must be shown to all religions and that people should respect each other's religious beliefs.

His remarks have faced widespread reactions on social media and have been commented on by various sides.


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Was this Mahmood Ghaznavi destroying Buddhas of Bamiyan in 2001?

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ziaulislam said:
Turkey is an excellent case study
Srilanka
Even India is good case study how to deal with difficult insurgency

Pakistan is also an excellent case study on incompetence and total failure
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Turkish and Indian population says.. kill them all. their polical parties lead this narrative.
Pakistani population says they are are our brothers. political parties lead this narrative and cus the operations against operations.

see the difference.?
 
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Irfan Baloch said:
Turkish and Indian population says.. kill them all. their polical parties lead this narrative.
Pakistani population says they are are our brothers. political parties lead this narrative and cus the operations against operations.

see the difference.?
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Correct sir.
 
Irfan Baloch said:
Turkish and Indian population says.. kill them all. their polical parties lead this narrative.
Pakistani population says they are are our brothers. political parties lead this narrative and cus the operations against operations.

see the difference.?
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Right on Turkey

Wrong on India

The Indians use a good carrot and stick policy plus had competent people lead their anti-insurgency efforts.

While there maybe an argument about KPK and how political space was provided to Taliban, the military and the intelligence agencies have been in complete control on how they want to deal with Balochistan. They have launched projects like BAP, and they decide who and how Balochistan is governed.

No political party has any say on what goes on there. It is a total and a complete failure of the security establishment and a great indictment of their competence at the leadership level.
 
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