Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

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Indians be like. Saaaar, what about me?

Ravenman said:
I dont understand this conflict.

Why doe Pakistan has a problem with Afghanistan?

I always thougt the ISI had good relations with Taliban and even supported them in the past?

What changed? Did the Taliban choose the side of the Baluchis or India?
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We never had good relations with Afghans. Territorial disputes.

Taliban were good until they were not good. Taliban are Afghans after all.
 
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Ravenman said:
I dont understand this conflict.

Why doe Pakistan has a problem with Afghanistan?

I always thougt the ISI had good relations with Taliban and even supported them in the past?

What changed? Did the Taliban choose the side of the Baluchis or India?
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Basically the Afghans claim Pakistan sovereign territory

This is partly because the Taliban who are almost entirely Pashtun ethnicity, share that ethnicity with Pakistani pashtuns in Pakistan KP province and believe KP should belong to them

Whether it's the Taliban, Afghan Republic, state or whomever we have had this problem now for over 80 years since Pakistan was established

Pakistan has tried multiple times to make peace, offer trade, open borders, free travel etc

Because Pakistan understands, we have bigger enemies to deal with and Afghans like the Kurds are USELESS and used by foreign powers to destabilize the region

But afghans have now attacked Pakistan for 80 years and their needless violence has only led to more and more pain and humiliation for Afghan people

Millions of Afghans have been thrown out of Pakistan, border is closed
Pakistan conducts air strikes against Targets etc


Pakistan hopes for the best, but that depends on afghans seeing sense
 
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hussain0216 said:
Basically the Afghans claim Pakistan sovereign territory

This is partly because the Taliban who are almost entirely Pashtun ethnicity, share that ethnicity with Pakistani pashtuns in Pakistan KP province and believe KP should belong to them

Whether it's the Taliban, Afghan Republic, state or whomever we have had this problem now for over 80 years since Pakistan was established

Pakistan has tried multiple times to make peace, offer trade, open borders, free travel etc

Because Pakistan understands, we have bigger enemies to deal with and Afghans like the Kurds are USELESS and used by foreign powers to destabilize the region

But afghans have now attacked Pakistan for 80 years and their needless violence has only led to more and more pain and humiliation for Afghan people

Millions of Afghans have been thrown out of Pakistan, border is closed
Pakistan conducts air strikes against Targets etc


Pakistan hopes for the best, but that depends on afghans seeing sense
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afghandus and intelligence/sense are allergic to each other.
 
Heavy clashes are underway in Zibak district’s Topkhana area, Badakhshan, following coordinated assaults by anti-Taliban forces on Taliban strongholds, local sources report.
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SoulSpokesman said:
@Distant_Observer

US and Pakistan should invade Afghanistan together and get rid of the taliban properly this time.

Strange! You guys brought them to power together in 2021.

Regards
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True but India called them terrorists and then hugged them with open arms later. Lately i am hearing that Afghan and Indian DNA is same.

Geopolitics is interesting isn't it?
 
Vapnope said:
True but India called them terrorists and then hugged them with open arms later. Lately i am hearing that Afghan and Indian DNA is same.

Geopolitics is interesting isn't it?
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An afghan taliban minister claimed that the dna of afghans and indians is one.................. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::

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Ravenman said:
I dont understand this conflict.
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The easiest way to explain this very complex issue to someone from Türkiye is for you to look at the TTP as an entity similar to the PKK, the TTP is the exact equivalent for Pakistan. It is an ideological, violent terrorist group responsible for thousands of Pakistani deaths.

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Ravenman said:
Why doe Pakistan has a problem with Afghanistan?
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Issue with safe heavens inside Afghanistan: Just as the PKK utilizes mountainous borders and weak state control in northern Iraq and Syria to launch attacks into Turkey, the TTP uses Afghan soil as a launchpad to attack Pakistan.
Issue with Afghan Taliban supporting TTP with arms, ammunitions, safe harbor and logistical support:
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Ravenman said:
I always thougt the ISI had good relations with Taliban and even supported them in the past?
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When the Afghan Taliban took power in Kabul in 2021, Pakistan expected them to rein in the TTP. Instead, the Afghan Taliban treats the TTP as ideological brothers, refusing to crack down on them.

This threat we face is similar to the one faced by Türkiye along its southern border with Syria. There are factions within the Taliban, not all Taliban factions are pro-Pakistan, the current Taliban regime doesn't recognize the international border of Pakistan with Afghanistan and has openly stated they want to claim all of Pakistan to create Greater Afghanistan:
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Pakistan has hosted millions of Afghan refugees for over four decades. Sorting peaceful refugees from embedded TTP militants is an astronomical intelligence challenge, this is why you see threads about deportations of Afghans.
Ravenman said:
What changed? Did the Taliban choose the side of the Baluchis or
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Pakistan initially backed Afghan factions decades ago to secure its western border. Today, that policy has resulted in severe "blowback," where the very forces Pakistan hoped would bring stability have enabled a terror group (the TTP) to wage war against the Pakistani state.
Ravenman said:
India?
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India has long sponsored terrorist activities inside Pakistan, their strategy relies on three things: Destabilize Pakistan, Dehumanize Pakistan, Damage Pakistan.

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Recording of Indian Intelligence Major coordinating attacks with a terrorist in Pakistan.

Pakistan's current stance not anti-Afghan, but as strictly pro-security, identical to Turkey’s "zero tolerance" policy for cross-border terror.
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I hope this helps make some sense.
 
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