Operation Ghazab Lil Haq (Pakistan - Afghanistan War)

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You can run, but you can't hide....

Afganistan is such an inhospitable place. You apply non-contact robotic warfare tactics, and these bastards are all dead. IDEAS'24 has shown Pakistan's military industrial complex is getting up to this task....

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Third eye]

I think this video is from Syria.

.. and the second vehicle went over a land mine

 

[Third eye]

It's not a pope dream, Afghanistan has always been a fractured society, with barely a powerful central government.

Even now the taliban are arguing among each other, with reports that the Haqqanis are furious with the Supreme leader over certain issues, and other factions are angry due to new laws being passed that they disagree with.

Then you have ethnic tensions between the Pashtun vs the Hazara, Tajiks, Uzbeks...etc, as well as religious tensions.

Breaking Afghanistan is very easy. It's just no one wants to do it.

Also, the repercussions for Pakistan wouldn't be as bad as now, as smaller pieces are easier to control than one large unstable nation. The Russian, and the Americans have perfected, Pakistan just needs to replicate them, but make it more democratic.

Very interesting views

Any one can break anything, keeping it broken and handling the fallout holds the key. The world now has two wiser but sadder Super Powers to validate these views.

If there is any non indigenous community that has infiltrated (read merged) Pakistan completely and seamlessly, its the Afghans.

Having lived in Pakistan and then been turned out has added to the numbers in Af who would naturally have ' not-so-pleasant' thoughts of their Eastern Neighbor. Imaging the kind of sleepers that exist & what they can do at their convenience.

Meanwhile, nothing would suit the rest of S Asia more than a violation of an IB in the region by one of its nation.

 

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TIC Monitoring:
India’s Heinous Role in Terrorism and Targeted Killings in Pakistan Exposed

India’s involvement in global terrorism and serious human rights violations has been exposed on an international scale, shaking the conscience of the global community.

The Washington Post, a leading international journal, has published a damning exposé revealing India’s role in sponsoring terrorism and carrying out targeted killings in Pakistan.

According to the Washington Post, India’s intelligence agency, the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), has been orchestrating targeted killings in Pakistan since at least 2021.

The report highlights that RAW hired mercenaries and used Afghan weapons to eliminate specific individuals in Pakistan.

The publication cited an incident from April last year where two masked men gunned down Aamir Sarfaraz, alias Tamba, in Lahore before fleeing the scene.

This assassination was part of India’s covert operations aimed at destabilizing Pakistan.

The report draws attention to the broader pattern of secret assassination campaigns carried out by RAW, echoing similar tactics employed by the agency in other nations.

India’s involvement in destabilizing Pakistan is not new. The Washington Post also cited a statement by Indian National Security Advisor Ajit Doval in 2014, where he remarked, “It is unrealistic to attack Pakistan, but we can use secret means to achieve our objectives.”

This statement underscores India’s long-standing strategy of using clandestine operations to undermine its neighboring country.

India’s aggressive actions are not confined to Pakistan. The Washington Post revealed that RAW has also been implicated in extrajudicial killings in Western countries, including the United States and Canada.

Notably, RAW agents targeted Sikh separatist leaders in these regions, with instructions to hire local assassins for the operations.

One such operation in New York was directly overseen by RAW officer Vikash Yadav from New Delhi.

Canadian officials have also exposed the involvement of Indian diplomats and RAW in terrorist activities, further implicating India in international law violations.

Last year, evidence emerged linking RAW to the targeted killings of Pakistani citizens Muhammad Riaz and Maulana Shahid Latif.

India’s aggressive and unlawful actions have drawn sharp criticism worldwide.

Diplomatic experts have called for strict action against India’s repeated violations of international laws and its blatant disregard for sovereignty.

The evidence of Indian interference in other nations’ affairs, including Pakistan, the US, and Canada, poses a serious threat to global peace and security.

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

It's not a pope dream, Afghanistan has always been a fractured society, with barely a powerful central government.

Even now the taliban are arguing among each other, with reports that the Haqqanis are furious with the Supreme leader over certain issues, and other factions are angry due to new laws being passed that they disagree with.

Then you have ethnic tensions between the Pashtun vs the Hazara, Tajiks, Uzbeks...etc, as well as religious tensions.

Breaking Afghanistan is very easy. It's just no one wants to do it.

Also, the repercussions for Pakistan wouldn't be as bad as now, as smaller pieces are easier to control than one large unstable nation. The Russian, and the Americans have perfected, Pakistan just needs to replicate them, but make it more democratic.

Easier said than done.

The same quality that gives each group an edge casts them closer with just the right amount of autonomy.
Denatured!
Thr operative word for Pakistani society and its people. Pakistan had institutional continuation from the Raj. It never got to reorient it's priorities, balance or transfer the power back to the people.
Which is why Pakistan is in a deeper morass. People just haven't found their true north and their feet. It is aimless headbanging and further movement away from a true center or a true compromise among its nations/tribes.

And true to a foreign colonizer... the aims are being accomplished under the rubric of freedom... optics! And no one truly knows where they stand currently, how to turn back the clock or better move forward. Finding an enemy or creating one in Afghanistan is truly diabolical. It isn't them... Pakistan dropped the ball. It makes me laugh when seemingly sane people here post with a straight face that they are racist towards Pakistan or Punjab for that matter. What low self esteem one must be to form such statement... like you truly feel deprived or offended. It is a non subject and one delving into such sling contest needs simply to grow up! No such verbal swipes work, more importantly matter!

A conflict with someone who has much less to lose than yourself and is your neighbor WILL only become a quagmire. One where a standing military will drain itself and when the last push will come the officer will just melt away running to their true master.

Ones seeking short term goals and have a destination in mind will be the ones aiming for this folly. In all of this game of smoke and mirrors a tue distraction is being achieved. Kashmir is being forgotten and erased. People's anger and ire redirected. The true failure of purpose. The military was propped up by the US as bulwark against Soviet threat... which is long gone. The native cause to make itself whole was always Kashmir. Though I have to admit it should have been more than that but I'll let history play out on that...
Anyhow, that buildup now seeks a new enemy and the same old benefactor. To take out the pariahs next door with a nuisance value that it seems only now matters to Pakistan. Perhaps they may help amplify it to the world... because in coming years as it stabilizes without Pakistan... where will Pakistan seek it's relevance?

 

[That_Guy]

Easier said than done.

The same quality that gives each group an edge casts them closer with just the right amount of autonomy.
Denatured!
Thr operative word for Pakistani society and its people. Pakistan had institutional continuation from the Raj. It never got to reorient it's priorities, balance or transfer the power back to the people.
Which is why Pakistan is in a deeper morass. People just haven't found their true north and their feet. It is aimless headbanging and further movement away from a true center or a true compromise among its nations/tribes.

And true to a foreign colonizer... the aims are being accomplished under the rubric of freedom... optics! And no one truly knows where they stand currently, how to turn back the clock or better move forward. Finding an enemy or creating one in Afghanistan is truly diabolical. It isn't them... Pakistan dropped the ball. It makes me laugh when seemingly sane people here post with a straight face that they are racist towards Pakistan or Punjab for that matter. What low self esteem one must be to form such statement... like you truly feel deprived or offended. It is a non subject and one delving into such sling contest needs simply to grow up! No such verbal swipes work, more importantly matter!

A conflict with someone who has much less to lose than yourself and is your neighbor WILL only become a quagmire. One where a standing military will drain itself and when the last push will come the officer will just melt away running to their true master.

Ones seeking short term goals and have a destination in mind will be the ones aiming for this folly. In all of this game of smoke and mirrors a tue distraction is being achieved. Kashmir is being forgotten and erased. People's anger and ire redirected. The true failure of purpose. The military was propped up by the US as bulwark against Soviet threat... which is long gone. The native cause to make itself whole was always Kashmir. Though I have to admit it should have been more than that but I'll let history play out on that...
Anyhow, that buildup now seeks a new enemy and the same old benefactor. To take out the pariahs next door with a nuisance value that it seems only now matters to Pakistan. Perhaps they may help amplify it to the world... because in coming years as it stabilizes without Pakistan... where will Pakistan seek it's relevance?

This is...a bunch of nothing.

First, it's Afghanistan that started hostilities with Pakistan, not the other way around. To this very day, no single Afghan administration, including the taliban recognize the sovereign state of Pakistan.

Second, Afghanistan is more of a foreign colonizer than Pakistan, considering the Afghans claim territory all the way to Sindh.

They also aren't even remotely cohesive as a society. At least in Pakistan, white there are different local cultures, certain aspects tie them together.

Northern Tajiks and Southern Pashtun in Afghanistan consider each other to be completely foreign. This is the main reason why the ANA could never gain a foothold in places like Kandahar, because the ANA was dominated by Tajiks and Uzbeks. While the Taliban has historically struggled to gain and hold the north because they're dominated by Pashtuns. Even now, the main insurgence that the taliban regime is facing is in the North.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

This is...a bunch of nothing.

Maybe I shouldn't have quoted you so let's see what you said...

First, it's Afghanistan that started hostilities with Pakistan, not the other way around.

wrong!
Britain and then Pakistan were belligerent forces in Afghanistan. you should realize that Pakistan emerged as a non entity on what Britain agreed to on its colonized lands. They had made different accords with Afghans. Afghanistan NEVER had the upper hand. They had a botched claim undone by British departure from the region. And subsequently Pakistan became the bulwark and later conduit for war in Afghanistan against Soviets.

To this very day, no single Afghan administration, including the taliban recognize the sovereign state of Pakistan.

Taliban are yet to find recognition. They will. Pakistan that holds the upper hand now only stands to lose should they manage a working solution to obviate Pakistan. What then?
The arrogance is misplaced.

Second, Afghanistan is more of a foreign colonizer than Pakistan, considering the Afghans claim territory all the way to Sindh.

The continuity of that said reign was lost. The geographical boundaries were settled with or without their consent. Pakistan is not result of negotiations with Afghans. And that claim has no baring on current inhabitants should they willingly cede... until then come get it! So you know the value of such statements... worth multiplied by zero. But that same point could be used by Pakistan to lay claim to rest of Afghanistan.
To victor belongs all spoils. Pakistan is result of British colonization and that is where it ends... let them know.

They also aren't even remotely cohesive as a society. At least in Pakistan, white there are different local cultures, certain aspects tie them together.

no one said they have to... free people chart their own course. Colonized reconcile with new reality. If PPakistan wasn't this thoroughly subdued they would be very proud of their heritage too... irrespective of different or similar it is to the one next door.
The fact is they have always been such and managed this result. It is something for them to be proud of...

Northern Tajiks and Southern Pashtun in Afghanistan consider each other to be completely foreign.

They do not!

This is the main reason why the ANA could never gain a foothold in places like Kandahar, because the ANA was dominated by Tajiks and Uzbeks.

ANA is a totally different subject matter. The agency was never there... it was a foreign institution on foreign dime. It could have formed its niche over the decades or centuries to come but was the colonizer willing to stay and foot the bill?

While the Taliban has historically struggled to gain and hold the north because they're dominated by Pashtuns. Even now, the main insurgence that the taliban regime is facing is in the North.

Wrong again. Some of the taliban foremost leaders are ethnic Tajiks.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Maybe I shouldn't have quoted you so let's see what you said...


wrong!
Britain and then Pakistan were belligerent forces in Afghanistan. you should realize that Pakistan emerged as a non entity on what Britain agreed to on its colonized lands. They had made different accords with Afghans. Afghanistan NEVER had the upper hand. They had a botched claim undone by British departure from the region. And subsequently Pakistan became the bulwark and later conduit for war in Afghanistan against Soviets.


Taliban are yet to find recognition. They will. Pakistan that holds the upper hand now only stands to lose should they manage a working solution to obviate Pakistan. What then?
The arrogance is misplaced.


The continuity of that said reign was lost. The geographical boundaries were settled with or without their consent. Pakistan is not result of negotiations with Afghans. And that claim has no baring on current inhabitants should they willingly cede... until then come get it! So you know the value of such statements... worth multiplied by zero. But that same point could be used by Pakistan to lay claim to rest of Afghanistan.
To victor belongs all spoils. Pakistan is result of British colonization and that is where it ends... let them know.


no one said they have to... free people chart their own course. Colonized reconcile with new reality. If PPakistan wasn't this thoroughly subdued they would be very proud of their heritage too... irrespective of different or similar it is to the one next door.
The fact is they have always been such and managed this result. It is something for them to be proud of...


They do not!


ANA is a totally different subject matter. The agency was never there... it was a foreign institution on foreign dime. It could have formed its niche over the decades or centuries to come but was the colonizer willing to stay and foot the bill?



Wrong again. Some of the taliban foremost leaders are ethnic Tajiks.

Afganistan has been left isolated to die a slow but painful death. And, tney deserve it for being the first and last line of offense against Pakustan, and that too on behalf of the Ram Rajya of Bharat....

We will fight Pakistan till the Last Afgan - Ajit Doval

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Afganistan has been left isolated to die a slow but painful death. And, tney deserve it for being the first and last line of offense against Pakustan, and that too on behalf of the Ram Rajya of Bharat....

We will fight Pakistan till the Last Afgan - Ajit Doval

An excellent reason to tackle the problem(India) and not its symptom(Afghanistan).

Besides I don't want to take you up in this point. Maybe some other time...

 

[That_Guy]

[Side note]: the new cloud flare system is so bad. I've lost entire comments to it. I had to rewrite this 3 times.

@Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ

>Maybe I shouldn't have quoted you so let's see what you said...

You really shouldn't have, because now you're about to get an actual history lesson.

>Wrong!

>Britain and then Pakistan were belligerent forces in Afghanistan. you should realize that Pakistan emerged as a non entity on what Britain agreed to on its colonized lands. They had made different accords with Afghans. Afghanistan NEVER had the upper hand. They had a botched claim undone by British departure from the region. And subsequently Pakistan became the bulwark and later conduit for war in Afghanistan against Soviets.

First off, Pakistan didn't exist when the king of Afghanistan ad the British CAME TO A MUTUALLY AGREED UPON BORDER LINE which was respected until the birth of Pakistan.

Pakistan literally held a plebiscite in the regions to see if they wanted to remain independent, or join Pakistan. The answer was they joined Pakistan.

Not to mention that in 1960, the local Pashtun tribes were the first to fight against an attempted Afghan invasion (this was a second attempt)

When the question of Pakistan was brought to the UNGA, Afghanistan was the sole single entity to vote against Pakistan.

The Afghans insisted on a fake, non-historical nation called Pashtunistan (which has never existed in any point in history), which they insisted only be made on Pakistani territory. When Pakistan said why only Pakistan, why not Afghanistan as well, the Afghans responded by attacking Pakistan militarily (and being repulsed).

Afghanistan DID have an upper hand in the beginning. They had a fully equipped military, while the Pakistan army was still forming, and had almost all its field guns confiscated by the British and handed over to India. Afghanistan, during Pakistan's birth, attacked then as well, and were repulsed by local tribes.

AFGHANISTAN HAS LAUNCHED MULTIPLE MILITARY INVASIONS AGAINST PAKISTAN, COMPLETELY UNPROVOKED, AND LOST EVERYTIME BECAUSE THE LOCAL TRIBES DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT AFGHANISTAN.

FYI, the main reason why the ISI even exists is because of Afghanistan's constant aggression. Even India isn't as aggressive as Afghanistan is towards Pakistan.

And another thing, Afghanistan tried to invade British India multiple times, the second invasion attempt is what led to Afghanistan suggesting a border. So no, it was Afghanistan that was the belligerent.

>Taliban are yet to find recognition. They will. Pakistan that holds the upper hand now only stands to lose should they manage a working solution to obviate Pakistan. What then?

>The arrogance is misplaced.

Taliban can't even hold themselves together. Fractures are already appearing.

Afghanistan has NEVER truly been a united country, under 1 flag.

Its wishful thinking on your part.

>The continuity of that said reign was lost. The geographical boundaries were settled with or without their consent. Pakistan is not result of negotiations with Afghans. And that claim has no baring on current inhabitants should they willingly cede... until then come get it! So you know the value of such statements... worth multiplied by zero. But that same point could be used by Pakistan to lay claim to rest of Afghanistan.

>To victor belongs all spoils. Pakistan is result of British colonization and that is where it ends... let them know.

Pakistan need not have negotiated with Afghanistan, as the border was already settled due to international law, and border treaties between Afghanistan and the British (which according to IL) Pakistan inherited. By the way, it was the Afghan's idea to have a border in the first place.

>no one said they have to... free people chart their own course. Colonized reconcile with new reality. If PPakistan wasn't this thoroughly subdued they would be very proud of their heritage too... irrespective of different or similar it is to the one next door.

>The fact is they have always been such and managed this result. It is something for them to be proud of...

Pakistanis are proud of their heritage.

You are again saying a whole bunch of nothing.

A nation that isnt cohesive in any way isnt a united nation.

Entire regions in Afghanistan ignore the central authority of Kabul and have for generations. They act as independent nation states within Afghanistan.

A civilization-state cannot function in such a manner.

>They do not!

They absolutely do, and no amount of you denying it will change this.

>ANA is a totally different subject matter. The agency was never there... it was a foreign institution on foreign dime. It could have formed its niche over the decades or centuries to come but was the colonizer willing to stay and foot the bill

This is a cope comment. The ANA was a local institution, it was manned by locals, and while it's main funding was foreign, a lot of it was also funded by whatever taxes Kabul could collect.

It is NOT a different subject, you're only saying this because you have no answer to this, and it doesn't suit your narrative.

>Wrong again. Some of the taliban foremost leaders are ethnic Tajiks.

"foremost"

What a joke.



They got 1 to 2 guys, who are mainly kept on the sidelines. 90% of the military and government positions are manned by Pashtun. The 1 Hazara guy they had, rebelled because they were fucking his people over, and then killed him for trying to fight for his people's rights.



Everything I've said is factually based, and can easily be googled.



What you wrote is nothing more than your personal feelings and wishes.