Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar: Pakistan strikes Back

[lightning f57]

So both Iran and Pakistan have murdered some children and destroyed a few mud huts, for what exactly?

As always, it's the weak and innocent who are caught up in events that are not making of their own, and at the mercy of the whims of those who harbour any sort of power.

Tragic and sad state of affairs of our species. I think this planet needs another mass extinction event and a fresh start.

It's posturing on both sides, egos and pride of little men. If one is serious about terrorism then it needs neighbours to cooperate and be serious about it. I don't see any urgency to deal with the border and the lawlessness that exists there. How can any state say oh we killed illegals why are people illegal there in the first place.

 

[safriz]

Question is does the government of Iran even have control over IRGC? Can their government signaling even be taken seriously when we are dealing with a completely autonomous organization?

No they don't.
IRGC comes under direct control of their supreme leader, khomeni.
IRGC is not answerable to Iranian elected government.

 

[Windjammer]

I still think it's a weak publicity stunt. They just killed a bunch of Kids like the Israeli IDF and declared victory. Who are the victims? Why didn't they hit the Iranian military that probably provides the logistics and financial support?

If it were a cheap publicity stunt then it was intiated by Iran.
I doubt any military kills according to any one's wishes or demands.
If you had been paying attention to the aftermath of the strikes and press release by the likes of BLA, you would get a fair idea who was hit.

 

[Gripen9]

I must unfilter this nagging thought- the operations name while pointed at the targets could also potentially be the name of a dish at a persian restaurant next to Fesanjan, Zereshk Polo Morgh, koobideh kabob and Chulu kabob. Morgh bar sarmachar.

Please forgive this lameness

lol that was my first thought as well.
“Are they talking about some Persian Salad?”

 

[Vikramaditya1]

I just read tensions have dissipated and that Iran is backing down from further escalation. Good.

Now, can someone tell me why all of a sudden Iran really decided take the drastic step of lobbing missiles into Pakistan instead of just calling the Pak leaders and asking them to do whatever? Did Iran suspect Pak govt was in cahoots with their detractors?

After a major terror attack the regime was looking weak. So, their IRGC I guess, launched an attack on 'targets'. This attack was not unique to Pakistan, this was done on Iraq and Syria as well. And Iraq expelled the Iranian ambassador on day one. I hear some prominent businessman and his daughter died as a result although they didn't launch any strike on Iran this has put them in a difficult position. So, this is largely a show of power by Iran.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Yes because keep meddling in other countries affairs Iraq, Syria etc and when something similar happens in Iran than Iranians cry foul. Next time if Iran attacks, than Pakistan will make sure that your attacking capabilities are targeted as well. Trust me, attacking Pakistan is like playing with fire. Better to stick with your proxy wars in Middle East. We still don't see Iran as a threat despite of unfortunate events in the last 3-4 days but things may change quickly.

Nonsense, war needs fuel/oil/energy. Pakistan has a huge energy crisis which can be solved if Saudi/USA or whoever who bought the generals allow them to import Gas from Iran.

Pakistan's energy needs according to the ITA report: "In 2019, the country produced 4.3 million metric tons of crude oil, only 20 percent of the country's total petroleum requirements. The remaining 80 percent was met through imports of crude oil and refined petroleum products worth $15-$16 billion annually.

Your position on the map is also not ideal, which minimizes Pakistans strategic reach, being surrounded by Iran, India, Afghanistan, only China could offer some relieve in Critical situation.

A good start would be to not breach IP contract with Iran. Further elaboration:

“Iran earlier asked Pakistan in Nov-Dec 2022 in its second notice to construct a portion of the Iran-Pakistan gasline project in its territory till Feb-March 2024 or be ready to pay a penalty of $18 billion. Before that, Tehran sent a notice to Islamabad in Feb 2019 to move an arbitration court for not laying down the pipeline in Pakistan’s territory in the stipulated period under the IP gas line project. It threatened to invoke the penalty clause of Gas Sales Purchase Agreement (GSPA). The GSPA was signed in 2009 for 25 years but the project could not take shape.”

 

[Bigda_Jatt]

PAF actions were commendable, big fan of PAF procurement policies and how they cancel out costly weapon systems with cheap and quality weapon systems.
something that we can learn from...

 

[ThunderCat]

This is the dumbest thing I've heard for ages, you want us to try and destabilize our neighbor, the only country standing up for Muslim countries for the monstrous Jews in Israel???

Keep kissing the feet of those who step on you. It's because of people like you Iranians and Afghans feel so free to bomb Pakistan.

Jews and Israel are not Pakistan's enemies nor friends.
Iran is allied to India. Get a reality check.

Your dumb post should be stamped with "full support sahab."

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Iran since the iran Iraq war had created a myth that its become so strong n powerful that not even the u.s dares yo attack it even though it been running proxie wars throughout the region with support of its terror networks n groups in the guise of religion n have projected it self as the defender of the faith n the faithful....
while in reality they are persians first n foremost n every thing else later.

Now these strikes have destroyed that myth. And I am afraid that this is the beginning of worst things to come for iran. As now we might see strikes from isreal , u.s n other neighbors now

Bombing a mud house killing 9 pakistani sunni baluch illegal civilians few km inside Iran (where no defence systems are active) is not breaking myths. We fought 8 year war against saddam Who was backed by USA, Europe, Soviet Union, they used chemical warfare. Compare that to your wars and results.

 

[ThunderCat]

Iran may be a fraud in terms of their military capability, but they are still a threat to US interests through their terror network, aka the houthis, hamas, Bashar, Hezbollah et al

Their military capabilities are quite sophisticated, but the problem is they still cannot fare too good against Israel if the quality of total weapons is added together.

Not to mention America and Israel are nuclear powers, Iran is not.

 

[Flyhigh]

I don’t agree with Pakistan killing Pakistanis in Iran . We should have attacked the base of the military unit which launched the missiles at our territory. Whats the point in us killing our own people ?

 

[ThunderCat]

Bombing a mud house killing 9 pakistani sunni baluch illegal civilians few km inside Iran (where no defence systems are active) is not breaking myths. We fought 8 year war against saddam Who was backed by USA, Europe, Soviet Union, they used chemical warfare. Compare that to your wars and results.

You were backed by North Korea and indirectly by Pakistan. You also had terror proxies doing your dirty work in blackmailing Gulf Arab states.

We are not Baathist Iraq. Our only war "loss" was a default Indian "victory" in 1971 which resulted in less than 34,000 Pakistanis troops being captured.

As I wrote, I welcome Iranians who condemned this unnecessary provocation (from what I saw on YT) but testing our country's defense and counter-warfare abilities is a bad idea.

Sure Iran can play on the fact that India is a distraction to the east, but not forget Iran is on the radar or Israel, America and the Gulf Arabs.

So playing on Pakistan's "weaknesses" and constraints is a bad idea; especially at this time when Iran has enough enemies.

 

[Joe Shearer]

We are not Baathist Iraq. Our only war "loss" was a default Indian "victory" in 1971 which resulted in less than 34,000 Pakistanis troops being captured.

Please accept our collective apology.

 

[ThunderCat]

The US doesn't want to dismantle the regime in Iran

IRGC was overhyped on purpose because their terror proxies using sectarianism create a security situation which give the US the perfect entry to ally with the Arabs and Muslims under security concerns

All security concerns are due to Iranian extremist aggression.

They fired missiles at nuclear military power Pakistan but couldn't do the same against Israel? Iran is a fraud

Pakistani response: Full support Sahab.
Israeli response: Did I not warn you? Now you will learn for ignoring it.

 

[hussain0216]

Keep kissing the feet of those who step on you. It's because of people like you Iranians and Afghans feel so free to bomb Pakistan.

Jews and Israel are not Pakistan's enemies nor friends.
Iran is allied to India. Get a reality check.

Your dumb post should be stamped with "full support sahab."

Your a clown, Jews are the enemies of every Muslim and any Muslim worthy of the name anywhere in the world should be aware of this and ready to increase the pressure on the Jews until they crack

Iran tried something stupid and they were responded to effectively, when India tried the same dumb ass move they were humiliated,
Afghanistan collapsed because it was in Pakistans strategic interests and not USA, NATO or India could stop it

Pakistan has to establish a effective deterrence but that doesn't mean we shouldn't understand our duty as Muslims to forge unity across the world, our failure to do so has resulted in weak fractured states which our enemies can target