Operation True Promise II - dozens of Iranian ballistic missiles hit Israel

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The question is if these systems are targetted, and American soldiers die - then will America be forced to fight Iran then?

Odd decision to "not get dragged" into a war by fighting Israels war, for Israel, by putting American soldiers right in "harms" way.

These are tripwire forces. The US has stationed some in Taiwan earlier this year. They're meant to be sacrificial lambs that, if attacked, give the US "justification" to enter a war. The Iranians don't even have to kill them, after the next Iranian attack they will be considered targets. The American media is already drumming for war there are several stories about Iranian plans to assassinate Trump, congress members that are puppets of AIPAC have already selected their targets, all they're missing is the odd dead soldier. This pretense of not wanting to not expand the war is so shallow its embarrassing the public is believing it.
 
Russia is firing 100+ Iskander a month at Ukraine and that’s not counting other BMs or CMs. Even the best IADS cannot resupply that many interceptors every month for a long conflict let alone Ukraine as a mid tier military nation (at best).
This I agree in part with, Russia is throwing everything at Ukraine. Ukraine had pro-Russian leaders for a long time who neglected its defenses. Ukraine could be a nuclear power from the start but handed over all nukes to Russia, talk about blunder of epic proportions. Even Zelenskky was not convinced that Russia will invade even though the US provided him evidence of Russian military buildup and preparations. Now Ukraine finds itself in a war of attrition with Russia wherein both sides have suffered horrendous losses. Ukraine has critical gaps that NATO have not plugged due to lack of time. But Ukraine has put up incredible level of resistance and even infiltrated Russian lands. This war is still a horror show.
 
Russians claimed that Iskander-M cannot be shot down but it was shot down. Russians claimed that Kinzhal cannot be shot down but it was shot down. Russians claimed that Zircon cannot be shot down but it was shot down. Russians claimed that Kalibr cannot be shot down but it was shot down. These were shot down in best defended spaces of Ukraine of-course. If only Ukraine had not neglected its defenses for a long time...

Let's see what this Skyfall can do.

Pray we don't see what skyfall can do - that's a nuclear holocaust. Skyfall is in a completely different league from the missiles you've listed. Discussions about Russia are dragging this off topic so lets discuss this elsewhere.
 
Pray we don't see what skyfall can do - that's a nuclear holocaust. Skyfall is in a completely different league from the missiles you've listed. Discussions about Russia are dragging this off topic so lets discuss this elsewhere.
I agree, this is off-topic. Not sure why Russia was brought up here but we can leave it at this.
 
This I agree in part with, Russia is throwing everything at Ukraine. Ukraine had pro-Russian leaders for a long time who neglected its defenses. Ukraine could be a nuclear power from the start but handed over all nukes to Russia, talk about blunder of epic proportions. Even Zelenskky was not convinced that Russia will invade even though the US provided him evidence of Russian military buildup and preparations. Now Ukraine finds itself in a war of attrition with Russia wherein both sides have suffered horrendous losses. Ukraine has critical gaps that NATO have not plugged due to lack of time. But Ukraine has put up incredible level of resistance and even infiltrated Russian lands. This war is still a horror show.

Ukraine’s “incredible” level of resistance is due to the full might and power of US/NATO SIGINT/ISR/Space ISR as well as over $65B+ in military weaponry and aid.

Or else Ukraine would have folded like a house of card in the first 3-6 months of conflicts when they ran out of artillery shells and ammo.

The war of attrition is not in Ukraine’s favor, long war’s erode public support both domestically and internationally. Now Russians are making steady (albeit incremental) advances across the front line. Ukraine will have to make tough decisions in the future, especially if trump comes to power.
 
The pause by Iran has allowed Israel to regroup to some degree
re-arm , loose depots with ammo

1- Iran did scored some wins with Russia as F-35 attack was thwarted
2- News of more weaponry arriving from Russia to Iran under new deals with Russia
 
The pause by Iran has allowed Israel to regroup to some degree
re-arm , loose depots with ammo
what pause? what re-group? do you think Iran isn't using this time to prepare? Israel just suffered 40+ IDF casualties in one drone strike by Hezbollah after suffering 22+ IDF casualties earlier this morning on the ground near South Lebanon
 
I think the War by Resistance fighters in Labanon , is of course on going
They are making impact at regional level near the settlements

Iran have avoided direct strikes from Iranian Land to Israel after the successful operation of True Promise 2

Know Iran , now has eyes in sky, they can see all movement on land by Armed units on ground, it's remarkable view of battlefield could have made big impact against the Tanks

Iran was quite generous allowing Ni-ten-Ya-Hoe
a) Warm water from electric heater
b) Electricity to use elevator to his bunker
c) Water to drink
d) Lights in metro city of Tel-Aviv

I see Iran as a generous nation who have really controlled their response
 
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The F-35 mission failure from Israel to Iran , was a big achievement for Russia showcasing they can detect F-35
 
Russians claimed that Iskander-M cannot be shot down but it was shot down. Russians claimed that Kinzhal cannot be shot down but it was shot down. Russians claimed that Zircon cannot be shot down but it was shot down. Russians claimed that Kalibr cannot be shot down but it was shot down. These were shot down in best defended spaces of Ukraine of-course. If only Ukraine had not neglected its defenses for a long time...

Let's see what this Skyfall can do.
Lucky shots at the in the zero sum game those mentioned won, ukrainian targets are at disposal of russians. Same will happen in occupied territories.
 
In a situation where US equipment and personnel are targeted in Israel by Irgc, would this give ground to retaliation on Iranian soil by US forces?
If US soldiers are killed..usually it's yes..
 
No true , because such attacks have happened in Occupied bases in Syria hosting American troops

Nothing new

Iraq - Syria- Yamen have conducted such operations many times

The Israelis and Media want us to believe the Devine Soldiers are now in Israel to protect Israel (Psych-op)
  1. Reports Yemeni attack on Ships in Red sea by Yemeni
  2. Reports various forces attack on attack on bases owned in Syria (Occupied illegally)

USA is already active member in conflict in Syria
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The objective of this war was to stop a ground route from Iran to Palestine


The war is not only active in Gaza/West Bank + Lebanon
It has already been active in Syria


Turkey does views the PKK presence also a threat on their National Security


From Iran perspective , it makes no difference who is stationed where
 
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what pause? what re-group? do you think Iran isn't using this time to prepare? Israel just suffered 40+ IDF casualties in one drone strike by Hezbollah after suffering 22+ IDF casualties earlier this morning on the ground near South Lebanon
Yes. Probably Iran have been assembling missiles in 24/7. Building hardened shelters for them and spreading groups of launchers for future volleys. Each day Israel delays their answer it is pure gold for Iran. We don´t know if Iran received any S400, but in this two weeks for sure Iran could perfectly build more Sevom Khordad TELARs, and even probably some Bavar 373 launchers or at least relocate and train more crews for them.
 
The war in Palestine-Lebanon and Syria are fully inter connected

That is why Russia is present in Syria and Iran is watching little Israel keeping them in check

Turkey already have smashed PKK many times
 
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