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Biden says ‘discussing’ possible Israeli strikes on Iran oil facilities​

  • His comments send oil prices spiking a month before US presidential election
AFP
October 3, 2024

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WASHINGTON: President Joe Biden said he was discussing possible Israeli strikes on Iranian oil facilities, in comments that sent oil prices spiking Thursday just a month before the US presidential election.

Biden told reporters at the White House however that he was not expecting Israel to launch any retaliation for Tehran’s missile barrage on Israel before Thursday at least.

When asked by a reporter if he supported Israel striking Iran’s oil facilities, Biden said “we’re discussing that. I think that would be a little… anyway.”

Oil prices jumped five percent over concerns about the Middle East after Biden spoke.

A rise in oil prices could be hugely damaging for Biden’s Vice President Kamala Harris as the Democrat confronts Republican former president Donald Trump in a November 5 election where the cost of living is a major issue.

Biden said he did not expect any immediate action from Israel – even if Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has recently paid little heed to calls for restraint as he targets allied Hezbollah in Lebanon.

“First of all, we don’t ‘allow’ Israel, we advise Israel. And there is nothing going to happen today,” Biden told reporters when asked if he would allow Israel to retaliate against Iran.

Biden said on Wednesday that he would not back Israel attacking Iranian nuclear sites.

Iran launched around 200 rockets in a direct missile attack on Israel on Tuesday, prompting Netanyahu to warn that Tehran would pay.

Iran said it was in retaliation for the killing of Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah.

Hezbollah has been launching rockets at Israel since shortly after the October 7, 2023 attacks on Israel by Iran’s Palestinian ally Hamas, and Israel’s crushing retaliatory offensive in Gaza.
 
Pingle said:
@Kyussis and @SaadH
Why you both are laughing? Did I make a joke?
India the most kind natured country has always helped everyone in trouble inspite of her being a poor country.... be it Sri-Lanka or Palestine....
Google India's monetary, medical and food related help to Palestine.....
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I laughed because I know there are Indians fighting for the IDF in Gaza actively carrying out genocide on Palestinians because they took pictures of their Indian flags planted in Gaza and plastered it on the internet. You got a problem, take it up with them!
 
Pradotlc said:
What ever people think of the shah of Iran.... but when it comes to Israel he was 100% spot on


a must watch.. relevant even today

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He was no better than Erdogan. All talk but no substance. A slave to the Zionist World Order!
 
Will the Taliban stick to their word and send fighters to assist in repelling IDF?
 
If they hit oil facilities, we will hit similar facilities. Israel has the upper hand in assassinations and controlling US foreign policy, and that’s probably the route they will continue with.
 
takayoshi said:
Will the Taliban stick to their word and send fighters to assist in repelling IDF?
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Taliban isn’t doing anything nor are any like minded groups they have had several decades to strike at Israeli interests around the world but they have never attempted to do anything or anything worthwhile at their height they could have done massive damage to Israeli interests abroad maybe not in Israel but outside diplomatic and military missions in and around the world they have always been stuck on creating their caliphate conquer subjugation of muslim and Arab countries bring about their idea of one muslim state in their control Israel was always on the back burner they have killed many innocent Jordanians in bombings but these isis groups couldn’t bomb Israeli border outposts with Israel only group attempted anything at all was Isis in Egypt but they were also more focused on slaughtering Egyptian coptics
 
Guys, wanna get your opinion on this.

It is becoming clear that Iran has moved away from strategic restraint/patience to active deterrence.

So now we are in for a rough period where Iran and Israel are going to want to establish escalation dominance.

Whats gonna happen is that Israel is going to move up the escalation ladder and retaliate against Iranian assets. What they are, we dont know yet.

Iran will assess the damages, and further move up the escalation ladder and attempt to inflict a larger cost on Israel with missile strikes.

And then its gonna go in a tit-for-tat manner until the costs of escalating further will be too unbearable for either side, or until external powers exert pressure on either side to stop because of the potential ramifications on the global economy.
And then a new deterrence equation is set.

My question is, does Iran have any chance of coming out of this "winning" and establish deterrence dominance?
Whats your take
 
takayoshi said:
Will the Taliban stick to their word and send fighters to assist in repelling IDF?
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That may depend on what the terms of the secret deal the Taliban probably made with US (after NATO exited Afghanistan) are. If Taliban aren't too happy with the deal, or its a weak deal, they will probably stick to their word and send fighters, but if the deal with US is decent or good in the Taliban's eyes, they probably wont send fighters to repel the IDF.

Of all the regional groups that want to fight Israel on the ground, I think Iraqi and Houthi fighters are the most likely to make it to the frontline to fight Israel.
 
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32 impacts detected on satellite imagery

who was closest to 32?
 
ResurgentIran2 said:
Guys, wanna get your opinion on this.

It is becoming clear that Iran has moved away from strategic restraint/patience to active deterrence.

So now we are in for a rough period where Iran and Israel are going to want to establish escalation dominance.

Whats gonna happen is that Israel is going to move up the escalation ladder and retaliate against Iranian assets. What they are, we dont know yet.

Iran will assess the damages, and further move up the escalation ladder and attempt to inflict a larger cost on Israel with missile strikes.

And then its gonna go in a tit-for-tat manner until the costs of escalating further will be too unbearable for either side, or until external powers exert pressure on either side to stop because of the potential ramifications on the global economy.
And then a new deterrence equation is set.

My question is, does Iran have any chance of coming out of this "winning" and establish deterrence dominance?
Whats your take
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My take on it is that Iran will eventually have to spill the blood of these killers proportionally and only then they'll back off. So for example if they strike Iranians oil facilities, the response needs to be proportionate and their water salination plants, energy plants need to be targeted etc.

You have to remember these people love LIFE and they're used to a comfortable life generally speaking. So Iran has to raise the cost for these people and only then will they come to their senses. Materialistic damage doesn't bother this lot one bit as the US is funding it by simply printing more $$$s.

Iran being like 10 times the size of this entity can absorb the cost, whereas these rats will leg it to EU/USA the moment they realise the country is no longer safe. Just a few years ago, if I said to you Iran will do a missile strike on Israel, and USA/Nato won't be involved, you'd had laughed on my face. But look today, 2 strikes in less than 12 months and the Americans are still not so keen to take Iran on...the so called red line has been crossed twice and a precedent has been set. I don't see Amercians/Brits giving up their lives/economy for this lot, not unless they literally have to. So they won't let it get to that stage and will likely control these rabid dogs.
 
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32 impacts detected on satellite imagery

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Some of the attacks seem to have hit open area likely not doing any damage. Iran has droplet warheads they would be better to use especially if the zionist regime decides to retaliate in a big way.
 
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