Opinion: India Pakistan near conflict - Escalation management non-existent

[MirageV3ff]

Well India is on a war prep footage moving things very quickly. Some chatter was heard that before Modi leaves, he wants to "punish" Pakistan. Wet dream it may be, but share your opinions about it.

India started to test urgently required Russian missiles JayShanker negotiated and acquired from Putin a few months ago along with 3-5 additional S-400's. They are branding these acquisitions as "phase I of Sudharshan chakar" and testing first interceptor ranging around 150 KM. S-400's lost components have been provided and deliveries have commenced for additional units urgently procured.

Indian airforce is going in an over drive, this time, doing exercises in Ladakh region. One of the excuse they made up for losing Rafales was that the J-10C had been practicing in the Kashmir region and knew the terrain well. Now Indian pilots who will participate in the next conflict will be given extensive experience on this terrain. Chatter also says the trainers are Israelis this time as Modi's lost trust in Indian airforce trainers and war planners.

Below is a Notam issued today by the IAF:

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@Hakikat ve Hikmet @MirageV3ff @PAKISTANFOREVER @FuturePAF @War Historian

Not a surprise. They didn't exactly conclude operation sindhoor, just paused it. And its a strategic pause, they're definitely working around tactics for their airforce and replacing attritional losses.

Question is what are we doing. We still don't have a clear deterrence against Brahmos and our AD isn't as layered and dare I say effective as it should be.

I think we should definitely look at this from an offensive posture and not defensive, we'll have to preempt the strikes and make sure they count. That's only when Pakistan is in a position where it can afford to preempt it, and right now I doubt that we are at that stage.

 

[NA71]

just listen to Ex- PAF Chief:

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[Master Chief]

This should be taken to the UN and sanctions applied to India. Every day, due to this Indian run black market of oil, Russia makes millions of dollars. Those dollars are poured into weapons for war and Ukrainian civilians are killed daily. There should be sanctions on a rogue nation like India that doesn't want to follow the international laws.

Hitherto their rogue behaviour has been overlooked as they were seen as a bulwark against China and also against Pakistan (both are opposed for differing imperialist agendas).

That status as a bulwark against EITHER China or Pakistan is now non-existent, not least because the unreliable and opportunistic nature of hindutva "trader" mentality has been exposed.

Indeed, it is this chanakiya that some of our regular forum visitors seem to be most vocally proud of.

They genuinely have no India-centric civilisational standards that they strive towards or attempt to uphold. They will happily be an autocratic nation or a theocracy if they feel like it - and actually already are both in a sense. They will readily ally with anyone, even those who have butchered them in the past, to further the only one true strategic national objective that they have - the subjugation of Pakistan.

To put it another way, their raison d'etre is purely focused on another nation, and they will stop at nothing to rid themselves of this perpetual source of nightmares. I would even go so far as to say, that without Pakistan, India would have dismembered itself decades ago.

 

[War Historian]

Well India is on a war prep footage moving things very quickly. Some chatter was heard that before Modi leaves, he wants to "punish" Pakistan. Wet dream it may be, but share your opinions about it.

India started to test urgently required Russian missiles JayShanker negotiated and acquired from Putin a few months ago along with 3-5 additional S-400's. They are branding these acquisitions as "phase I of Sudharshan chakar" and testing first interceptor ranging around 150 KM. S-400's lost components have been provided and deliveries have commenced for additional units urgently procured.

Indian airforce is going in an over drive, this time, doing exercises in Ladakh region. One of the excuse they made up for losing Rafales was that the J-10C had been practicing in the Kashmir region and knew the terrain well. Now Indian pilots who will participate in the next conflict will be given extensive experience on this terrain. Chatter also says the trainers are Israelis this time as Modi's lost trust in Indian airforce trainers and war planners.

Below is a Notam issued today by the IAF:

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@Hakikat ve Hikmet @MirageV3ff @PAKISTANFOREVER @FuturePAF @War Historian

Sir , third world war is just one or two years away. You can check around the world, every major country is buying and manufacturing medium and large scale weapons. Next generation rifles for ground troops. New tank and infantry vehicles. So most of the majors world powers phasing out old weapons and inducting new weapons on great pace. Country like Germany is buying new weapons in huge numbers. Pakistan must closely monitor the Indian new strategy about countering PL-15 and J-10 combo. So we must keep some new secrets to surprise IAF again ,and keep them at their bays.

 

[Pradotlc]

We simply need to nuke India and do the world a favor

 

[RajaBaja]

We simply need to nuke India and do the world a favor

I think that would make Trump happy j/k. Next time the war will escalate very quickly. Because it will start with what are considered strategic systems, like Bra-Mouse. I agree, we need to be making preparations every day for a strategic war and even a long term war.

Last time, Modi was high on this French drug called the Rafale and got humiliated. But in a few months again, Modi will be high on multiple drugs again, the Brahmos and S-400 (Sudarshan Chakar crap).

So, we will have no way to find out if the Bra-Mouse is fired with a nuke or conventional in the first attack. So it will escalate very quickly and immediately without any real mechanism for escalation management. Just like the title of this thread suggests. Russia is friendly on the face of Muslim nations to sell weapons, in reality, it sides with Israel and India, just like we saw in Israel-Iran war. So they'll stay back and support it with weapons. We'll have the Chinese supporting us and the way may be very short sadly leaving millions dead.

 

[Pradotlc]

I think that would make Trump happy j/k. Next time the war will escalate very quickly. Because it will start with what are considered strategic systems, like Bra-Mouse. I agree, we need to be making preparations every day for a strategic war and even a long term war.

Last time, Modi was high on this French drug called the Rafale and got humiliated. But in a few months again, Modi will be high on multiple drugs again, the Brahmos and S-400 (Sudarshan Chakar crap).

So, we will have no way to find out if the Bra-Mouse is fired with a nuke or conventional in the first attack. So it will escalate very quickly and immediately without any real mechanism for escalation management. Just like the title of this thread suggests. Russia is friendly on the face of Muslim nations to sell weapons, in reality, it sides with Israel and India, just like we saw in Israel-Iran war. So they'll stay back and support it with weapons. We'll have the Chinese supporting us and the way may be very short sadly leaving millions dead.

US still needs India … so trump’s attitude towards India is specific to him


Israel has many friends which include turkey , Azerbaijan and Gulf states

Russia’s impact in the region is limited

 

[RajaBaja]

US still needs India … so trump’s attitude towards India is specific to him


Israel has many friends which include turkey , Azerbaijan and Gulf states

Russia’s impact in the region is limited

Read my post again and then respond. Your response is irrelevant to the post. Russia is the largest supplier of weapons to India. Israel is NOT Turkey's friend. It's a business relationship. You should hear Erdoan talk about Israel in open media.

During Iran-Israel war, a time came when a threat was given to Turkey and Turkey went high alerts for almost two weeks.

 

[Pradotlc]

Read my post again and then respond. Your response is irrelevant to the post. Russia is the largest supplier of weapons to India. Israel is NOT Turkey's friend. It's a business relationship. You should hear Erdoan talk about Israel in open media.

During Iran-Israel war, a time came when a threat was given to Turkey and Turkey went high alerts for almost two weeks.

Read again what I wrote Israel has many friends that facilitate it in the region.

Erdgon does alot of eye wash … and lets leave at that

 

[RajaBaja]

Read again what I wrote Israel has many friends that facilitate it in the region.

Erdgon does alot of eye wash … and lets leave at that

Again, you responded with a many things, totally leaving out the core of the post on India-Pakistan. What Turkey, Israel or Russia do in the world isn't important. Russia and Israel being India's weapons supplier, resuming constant supply in a war matters to us. That's what I was pointing out.

 

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[RajaBaja]

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US needs to cut off India's source of money that's from itself so India could realize how it's violating the international laws. Just like the US is trying to do to Russia. When India's US investments and millions of jobs are divided among other nations, Indian economy will start to shrink and then India will realize it can't use the US as a toilet paper and throw away. No Russia or China can grow the Indian economy.

These urgent steps need to be taken and even some critical sanctions are needed on entities involved in this international oil black market. 50% tariff isn't enough.

The US should start an emergency distribution of 25% of it's India based IT jobs to Pakistan, Vietnam and Philippines. Philippines already have the infrastructure and they can absorb everything immediately.

 

[RajaBaja]

India has started a new false flag operation. It picked 3 Pakistani travelers and started it's propaganda that they are inside India to commit crimes. One of them just came on ARY on a video call and showed the media he was in Cambodia and he traveled through Nepal and stopped there for a few days for holidays.

Indian agencies identify traveling Pakistanis and even abduct them like we've seen before especially in Nepal area and then use their identities for false flag acts.

All Pakistanis should be aware of such travel destinations and avoid risky routes. We have an enemy without any shame or sense of right or wrong while they spend billions in spreading terrorism inside Pakistan through Afghanistan and UAE RAW handlers.

 

[NA71]

Remember this X handle baba ji is a social media mouth of IA.

 

[NA71]

When did he say .....or AI?

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