PA Multi Launch Rocket Artillery Systems [BM-11, Fatah-I GMLRS, Fatah-II] - News, Updates & Discussions

[Zarvan]

This is officially the first missile test since the launch of this new forum

Thank you Pakistan Army / ISPR

That’s what I was pointing to. It could be to a modular system with different type of rockets/missiles. Like so:

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Okay I agree the missile fired is looking way different from what was displayed. Although I really hope the picture of Chinese MRL/Ballistic missile you have posted is the way Pakistan is going. I mean I hope FATAH II is similar to this system.

 

[KingQamaR]

whole Pakistan startegik assetss are then by stance is under indian rocket propelled artilarry range as all of major ammo and missile dumps and sites and command and control centers to major radar stations and storage depots situated not more than 35 to 185 Km from indian border and well within range of indian regular artilarry and rocket multi barrel rocket propelled artilarry and new genration Pinaka MK I & MK II and Smerch type MBRL and of solid fuel based Prahar-Pratibha type short ranged missiles ... what has pakistan to stop them

Piñaka is a joke.

Fatah 1 rocket system in 2021 outranges all operational rocket system in Asia. Now we have Farah 2 hit burn yours further

 

[DedBot]

Not to be confused with Iranian missiles:

The Fateh A-110 is a short-range, road-mobile, solid-propellant ballistic missile based on the Russian made missile R-65 FROG, but other sources said it is a copy of the Chinese DF-11. It is most likely a modified version of the unguided Zelzal-2 ground-to-ground missile, with the addition of control and guidance systems.1 The Fateh A-110 is designed to replace many of the aging Scud systems currently used in the Iranian armed forces. Iran began developing the Fateh A-110 in 1997. The first test flight of the Fateh A-110 took place in May 2001, with a second the following September of 2002.3 A third test was recorded in February 2003. A fourth test was successfully completed during the second Holy Prophet military exercise in November 2006. The Iranian Revolutionary Guard successfully tested the Fateh in January of 2007 during an annual war game. A fifth successful test was completed in September 2007 alongside the Qadr-1 and the Shahab-3. Additional test flights have probably taken place. During its tests, the Fateh A-110 was fired from a fixed launcher similar to the one used by the Russian S-75 Guideline surface-to-air missile. However, it is more likely that Iran has designed a launch vehicle to make Fateh A-110 road-mobile. In September 2010, the Iranian Defense Ministry announced that army units are equipped with the third generation of Fateh-100 missile with an upgraded range of 300 km. The Fateh A-110 was designed to replace the old Russian-made ground-to-ground ballistic missile Scud systems currently used in many countries in the Middle East and also in Iran. The Fateh-110 was also exported to Syria.​

Variants

- Fateh-110: First variant. With a range of 200 km. - Fateh-110/II or Fateh A-110A: Second Generation Announced in 2004. It has a range between 160 and 210 km, but it is possible that Iran will add an extra booster to increase the range of the missile to 400 km. - Fateh-110/III or Fateh 3 A-110B: Third Generation Announced in 2010. The operational range of 250 km in place of 210 km for Fateh-110. It is expected that the A-110B will have a slightly reduced payload of 480 kg and an accuracy of 250 m CEP. - Khalij Fars: is an Anti-ship ballistic missile based on Fateh-110. Unveiled in 2011. - M-600: Syria has manufactured its own version of the Fateh-110, known as the M-600

Technical Data

Missile support During the first tests, the Fateh A-110 was fired from a fixed launcher similar to the one used by the Russian S-75 Guideline surface-to-air missile but some pictures of the Iranian military parade show that the missile is mounted to a modified truck chassis. The missile is placed on a single rail which is mounted on the whole length of the truck chassis with the end on top of the cabin crew. Before firing, four stabilizers are lowered to the ground; these are positioned on either side at the rear of the vehicle and one to each side of the chassis near the cabin crew.​ Missile The Fateh-110 is a single-stage, solid-propellant, surface-to-surface missile. Produced in Iran, it has a range of at least 200 km. Some sources on the Internet indicate that the missile is 8.86 m long, 0.61 m in diameter, and weighs 3,450 kg. It uses a single-stage solid-propellant engine and has a range of 210 km (130 miles), although it is possible that Iran will add extra boosters in order to increase its range to 400 km (249 miles). The missile might be as accurate as 100 m CEP using a combination of inertial guidance and a Global Positioning Satellite (GPS) system, though some sources suggest that the accuracy is much lower, as they do not think that the missile is capable of much inflight maneuvering or correction. The Fateh-110 is similar in shape to the Zelzal-2, but it has two delta-shaped control fins at the nose and four delta-control fins just in front of the rear wings. This aerodynamic control arrangement is new for a ballistic missile and has been developed by Iran to provide improved accuracy.​ Mobility The Fateh-110(A) can be mounted on a 6x6 truck similar to the Zelzal and Nazeat, though the TEL mechanism more closely resembles the SA-2 or Tondar-69 TBM (see below). Recently the missile was shown mounted on the exact same TEL as that associated with the Zelzal. The latest pictures taken during the military parade show that the Fateh-110 missile is mounted to a modified chassis of a Mercedes-Benz truck 2031, with one single axle at the front and two axles at the rear.​

Fateh-110 short range ground-to-air ballistic missile data

Fateh-110 Fateh Fatah A-110 short range ground-to-air ballistic missile Iran technical data fact sheet pictures video

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Pakistani Fatah resembles A-100 MRLS.

The Pakistani FATAH missile system is the further development of the Chinese А-100 MLRS, which in turn is a reverse-engineered copy of the Soviet BM-30 Smerch 300mm MRL.

In addition to the presented prototype of the new rocket, another important innovation of the Pakistani rocket system was the transition from the use of tubes (as in the Soviet system) to launch from disposable containers. This approach greatly simplifies operation and reduces the reloading speed of the system.

Pakistan introduced an analog of the Ukrainian Vilkha MLRS

Pakistan has introduced Fatah-1 and Fatah-2 guided multiple-launch rocket systems. These are analogs of Ukrainian Vilkha and American GMLRS

mil.in.ua

This means that Fatah weapon system will have a single launch and storage canister meaning less time required to deploy and launch.

GIDS Pakistan Exhibits Fatah-1 and II G-MLRS | TURDEF

Pakistan’s Global Industrial & Defence Solutions showcased its latest military equipment Fatah-1and II G-MLRS at IDEF.

www.turdef.com

Video of Fatah-1 Test:




Additional Info:

Pakistan today conducted a successful test of Fatah-1 - ISPR

These would be used to strike static targets. Moving targets would be extremely difficult to target with ballistic missiles. It would only make sense to use them against armored/mechanized brigades if equipped with a tactical nuclear warhead. For moving targets we have UCAVs, Fighters, and...

pdf.defence.pk

 

[Bilal]

Similar layout as indian pralay missile:

Can this for the basis for a Pakistani ASAT/ABM system that TPS43 pointed to in the old forum. Since Pralay is a surface to surface development of indian exo-atmospheric interceptor.

 

[ghazi52]

Pakistan carries out successful flight test of Fatah-II: ISPR​

Iftikhar Shirazi
December 27, 2023

Pakistan on Wednesday conducted a successful flight test of Fatah-II, the military’s media affairs wing said. — Photo courtesy Radio Pakistan

Pakistan on Wednesday conducted a successful flight test of Fatah-II, the military’s media affairs wing said.

According to the ISPR, Fatah-II is equipped with state-of-the-art avionics, sophisticated navigation system and unique flight trajectory.
“The weapon system is capable of engaging targets with high precision up to a range of 400 kilometres,” it said.



The ISPR said that the flight test was witnessed by “senior officers from tri-services and dedicated scientists and engineers”.

It further said that President Dr Arif Alvi, interim Prime Minister Anwaarul Haq Kakar, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Sahir Shamshad Mirza and Chief of Army Staff General Asim Munir congratulated participating troops and scientists on successfully conducting the flight test.

In October, Pakistan had conducted a successful flight test of the Ababeel Weapon System. The ISPR said the missile system was “aimed at strengthening deterrence and enhancing strategic stability in the region through the operationalisation of Full Spectrum Deterrence in the overall construct of Credible Minimum Deterrence”.

In August 2021, Pakistan had conducted a successful test of “indigenously developed” Fatah-1 guided multi-launch rocket system (MLRS). At the time, the ISPR said the extended-range rocket system was capable of delivering a conventional warhead.

Pakistan carries out successful flight test of Fatah-II: ISPR

“The weapon system is capable of engaging targets with high precision up to a range of 400km,” ISPR says.

www.dawn.com

 

[DedBot]

Jan 10, 2021


On 07 January 2021, Pakistan’s Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) announced that the Pakistan Army test-fired an indigenously developed multiple launch rocket system (MLRS). Designated the Fatah-1, the ISPR said the guided MLRS can deliver a conventional warhead up to a range of 140 km.


Adding to Pakistan’s rocket artillery inventory, the Fatah-1 joins the A-100, Nasr, and Yarmouk-series. Like the Fatah-1, Pakistan manufactures the A-100, Nasr, and Yarmouk domestically.


But in contrast to its other rockets, Pakistan is positioning the Fatah-1 as an offensively oriented weapon. The ISPR says the Fatah-1 gives Pakistan the ability to precisely engage targets “deep in enemy territory.”


Background on the Fatah-1


The Fatah-1 seems to be one of two MLRS the Pakistan Ministry of Defence Production (MoDP) referenced in its annual yearbook in 2015-2016. [1] These were a base MLRS and an “extended-range” MLRS.


In 2019, the ISPR revealed the A-100 (which has a range of over 100 km) as an “indigenous” rocket. If the A-100 is the base MLRS, the 140-km Fatah-1 could be the “extended-range” MLRS design.


There is no confirmed connection between the A-100 and Fatah-1. However, Pakistan apparently localized the A-100, so it would make sense for it to develop the Fatah-1 as a subvariant. If the Fatah-1 is a variant of the A-100, then it could share the same caliber (300 mm) and warhead weight (reportedly 235 kg).


However, this apparent link is only speculation. The Fatah-1 could also be distinct design and, as a result, be a larger rocket design. For reference, the Chinese Weishi or WS-series of rockets have spun out into a diverse line-up of missiles of varying calibres, ranges, and applications.

Pakistan Tests Indigenous Fatah-1 Guided MLRS

On 07 January 2021, Pakistan’s Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) announced that the Pakistan Army test-fired an indigenously developed multiple launch rocket system (MLRS). Designated the Fatah...

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[TopGun786]

Good

 

[CSAW]

So Much to the placement of S-400s close to Pakistan's borders.



"A future development is the introduction of a laser-guidance kit to transform the Fatah-II Guided rockets into precision-guided munitions that can hit targets marked by Pakistani U(C)AVs"

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

Press Release No 223/2023-Pakistan conducted successful flight test of Fatah-II | 27 Dec 2023 | ISPR​

 

[Ali_Baba]

The "cutting-edge avionics, sophisticated navigation system" probably refers to the terminal guidance technology with seekers capable of tracking down radar emitters and taking them out, in addition to a very low CEP value.

 

[mulj]

This should sell like halva, i see Egypt as first customer they are in dire need for such system as deterence and first strike capability.
You should send couple of those free of charge to Liban also.

 

[Bin Laden]

I think this is a tactical ballistic missile type like ATACMS/PrSM/Fire Dragon 480 etc, considering the range and the general assessment of the Size of the rocket. Quite different from what was seen before at display.

I think Fatah-II (Or just Fatah system ig) will be modular with the capacity to carry different calibre ammunitions like PHL-16/PCL-191.

So imagine like single chassis able to fire 140Km FATAH-1, 250Km FATAH-2, 400Km Tactical ballistic missile, and maybe even large numbers of 45Km Yarmuk-ERs.

Or maybe I'm just wrong and this is the same Fatah-2 rocket that was shown before. But I have trouble believing it that they managed to squeeze out 400km out of that size considering Pakistans overall technical capabilities.

Edit:-


I believe the same

 

[falcon34]

Looks like the standard 8 rocket salvo. The chinese have 400KM rockets called WS 2D.

 

[Bilal]

I think this is a tactical ballistic missile type like ATACMS/PrSM/Fire Dragon 480 etc, considering the range and the general assessment of the Size of the rocket. Quite different from what was seen before at display.

I think Fatah-II (Or just Fatah system ig) will be modular with the capacity to carry different calibre ammunitions like PHL-16/PCL-191.

So imagine like single chassis able to fire 140Km FATAH-1, 250Km FATAH-2, 400Km Tactical ballistic missile, and maybe even large numbers of 45Km Yarmuk-ERs.

Or maybe I'm just wrong and this is the same Fatah-2 rocket that was shown before. But I have trouble believing it that they managed to squeeze out 400km out of that size considering Pakistans overall technical capabilities.

Edit:-


I believe the same

PA Multi Launch Rocket Artillery Systems [BM-11, Fatah-I GMLRS, Fatah-II] - News, Updates & Discussions

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[Ali_Baba]

There will of course be a cat and mouse effect all along the border with IAF respositioning the S400 as part of its doctrine and PAF repositioning systems like Fatah-2 to counter. Given the cost different between the two types of systems, the advantage is in Fatah-2 favour. There will be a number of systems looking to bag a S400 kill including the large number of UAV platforms that Pakistan has, and will do so in the near future.