PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion
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Taimoor
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Did you see any pakistani here?
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I don't think Pakistan has any input in the design of the J-10 at all. The genesis of J 10 starts with J 9 back in the 1960s, but due to Cultural and low levels of industrial base, it never came to fruition. It had to wait until the 1980s when it was revived. But the experience gained in the design of J9 facilitates the development of J10. Song Wenchong was instrumental in the design of the J-10, and His assistant Yang Wei designed most of the fly-by-wire system. It was a rumor that the Israelis might help design fly by wire. But never confirmed!
I don't think Pakistan will risk cutting off spare parts by helping the Chinese, since they have to sign a "Nondisclosure agreement," and General Dynamics has personnel on the ground to guard against leakage of secret information. The best they can do is maybe give the design parameters of the F-16. Traditionally, Pakistan imports most of its weapons from the US and looks down on Chinese weapons. Only recently, in the 2000s, they source it from China because they were cut off from US supply
Chengdu J-10, History, Performance & Discussion
Introduction: This topic is about the History, Performance & Discussion of Chengdu J-10. English is not my native language, and the sources are also quite diverse, so if you have any suggestions please feel free. Due to confidentiality reasons, I can only provide rough data, such as the names...forum.warthunder.com
This topic is about the History, Performance & Discussion of Chengdu J-10.
English is not my native language, and the sources are also quite diverse, so if you have any suggestions please feel free.
Due to confidentiality reasons, I can only provide rough data, such as the names and approximate performance of radar, engines, and weapons.
Chinese Air-To-Air missiles
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J-10 (猛龙, Vigorous Dragon):
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J-9 (Canard) “The Predecessor of J-10”
On April 1, 1966, the “J-9 Aircraft Design Plan” was submitted. The National Defense Science and Technology Commission held a meeting to review the design plan of the J-9 aircraft and submitted the “J-9 Aircraft Tactical and Technical Demonstration Report” to the Central Military Commission. The report proposes that J-9 has a maximum speed of Mach 2.4, a ceiling of 21 km, a maximum range of 3000 km, a Radius of action of 600 km, a maximum endurance of 3 hours, and a maximum Rate of climb of 180~200 m/s. In order to enable the 601 Institute (Shenyang) to concentrate on developing the J-8, the development task of the J-9 was transferred to the newly formed 611 Institute (Chengdu) in April 1970.
In 1978, due to the urgent requirements for the J-7C undertaken by 611, the development work of the J-9 began to shrink. In 1980, in order to implement the national economic adjustment policy, the development of the J-9 was completely suspended. Due to the Cultural Revolution, the J-9 lasted for more than ten years and ultimately came to an end. Its achievements, especially the canard layout, abdominal air intake and medium range intercepting weapon Fire-control system, provide valuable experience for the development of J-10.
Performance
J-10
- Engine: Type 910
- Radar: Unknown
- Air-To-Air Weapons: Unknown
- Air-To-Surface Weapons: Unknown
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Like the “J-11”, the " J-10" is not a confirmed name, but this does not prevent us from referring to the early models that could only use PL-11 as the J-10. The image shows the earliest prototype, the J-10 “1001”.
The early J-10 differed from the J-10A in many details such as body shape and landing gear doors. Due to its initial intention to use the WS-10, the body shape was specifically optimized for the WS-10, and many positions were significantly different from the J-10A, which was confirmed to have undergone shape improvements after adopting the AL-31F.
In 1987, while taking off from the Sargodha airbase, an F-16 jet of the Pakistani Air Force collided with a wild boar.....................................................................................................
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Pakistan J10c thread anyone????!!!!
FuturePAF
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In the Chinese Year of the Snake
FuturePAF
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Ooo, that got to hurt for the French. But at least they can see the plane that downed their bird.
Khanivore
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For sure. The French will be hella pissed to see the J-10C.
iblini
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90 J-10CE seems unlikely, too much of economic burden, better go for another squadron then move on to J-35.
FuturePAF
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Your point granted, let’s let him do the job for the duration of this crisis, and let the public judge him and his political team. His defense minister showed his performance and the public can judge when the dust settles. Also, take this from a sympathetic person, let’s stick to the topic on this thread.
Khanivore
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I would say 28 more would be ideal to form another 2 squadrons.
RAJPUT
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You guessed it to the dot. Impressive!
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