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BonPlan said:
1 was found on the ground (pic of one engine and the tail). No one knows why, at least not a single one on this forum.
the rest is pakistanese fantasy.
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Let me put you out of your misery.
Where there are reportedly 70 IAF aircraft in the air, losing one is no biggie, even if one got shot down, India could have used 101 excuses or explanations, Malfunctioned, Bird strike, pilot disorientation or even a fratricide to name a few .
But when you have multiple casualties then it's difficult to give a false explanation alas you do topsy-turvy like the IAF and Indian MOD has been doing for last few months .
Remember when in 2019, Indian AD shotdown their own chopper within 20 Km , it took IAF and related services 9 months to come clean .
 
BonPlan said:
1 was found on the ground (pic of one engine and the tail). No one knows why, at least not a single one on this forum.
the rest is pakistanese fantasy.
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Well you won't find pictures of aircraft that were cordoned off by the IAF after the shoot-downs. Not all plane debris landed in populated areas.
You can discount what you'd like but the shoot-downs grounded the IAF for 2 entire days. That does not happen if you lose 1 or 2 aircraft. Our two air forces have operated in previous wars where 1 or 2 aircraft were shot down within a day yet the air ops continued on both sides.
While your tribalism is understandable, the anecdotal and factual evidence is overwhelming and non-stop highlighting the fact that a major shock to the IAF was delivered. And this shock does not come by way of losing an aircraft or two.
IAF paused to change its strategy because losing 6-7 high-tech aircraft in a single day was not tenable.
 
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Windjammer said:
Let me put you out of your misery.
Where there are reportedly 70 IAF aircraft in the air, losing one is no biggie, even if one got shot down, India could have used 101 excuses or explanations, Malfunctioned, Bird strike, pilot disorientation or even a fratricide to name a few .
But when you have multiple casualties then it's difficult to give a false explanation alas you do topsy-turvy like the IAF and Indian MOD has been doing for last few months .
Remember when in 2019, Indian AD shotdown their own chopper within 20 Km , it took IAF and related services 9 months to come clean .
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I agree, it is why I say not a single one here knowx the truth.
As far as I know a single Rafale hit the ground.
It is more than possible than others birds (Su, Mig even M2000) were grounded, as Pak ones, but so far only 1 Rafale, for unknown reason.
 
Why are we all being scientific, logical and civil to someone who is diplaying the exact opposite charactaristics simply to troll on here?

He knows the truth damn well. If someone came on here denying a MIG-21 in 2019, despite overwhelming evidence, was shot down we would thread ban them right?
 
Blain2 said:
IAF paused to change its strategy because losing 6-7 high-tech aircraft in a single day was not tenable.
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It's your opinion.
Mine is that India didn't expect a so strong opposition because
1) they had to answer to the terrorsit coup,
2) they nearly said where and when they wanted to bomb so as to avoid an escalation.
3) they didn't destroyed radars and SAM first.

They made an error. The counter strike was harde than expected. So they take time to adjust the tactic and, on the contrary of the first raid, destroyed some radars, SAM, airfields...

You can be sure than next time they will strike HQ, SAM, radars, runaway... FIRST OF ALL.
 
BonPlan said:
It's your opinion.
Mine is that India didn't expect a so strong opposition because
1) they had to answer to the terrorsit coup,
2) they nearly said where and when they wanted to bomb so as to avoid an escalation.
3) they didn't destroyed radars and SAM first.

They made an error. The counter strike was harde than expected. So they take time to adjust the tactic and, on the contrary of the first raid, destroyed some radars, SAM, airfields...

You can be sure than next time they will strike HQ, SAM, radars, runaway... FIRST OF ALL.
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In 2019 it was "Next time we will have Rafale"......
 
BonPlan said:
Funny. really funny.
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Wing Commander Anuma Acharya is not Pakistani, listen carefully how many Indian jets did she say Pakistan shot down?

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BonPlan said:
It's your opinion.
Mine is that India didn't expect a so strong opposition because
1) they had to answer to the terrorsit coup,
2) they nearly said where and when they wanted to bomb so as to avoid an escalation.
3) they didn't destroyed radars and SAM first.

They made an error. The counter strike was harde than expected. So they take time to adjust the tactic and, on the contrary of the first raid, destroyed some radars, SAM, airfields...

You can be sure than next time they will strike HQ, SAM, radars, runaway... FIRST OF ALL.
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Although we are living in the past with this discussion, errors in wars are costly. So this back and forth is about quantifying their losses.
As to what their strategy will be next time, it will have to be catered to. However, since all of this is supposition in any case, I could respond by saying, "you can be sure that next time, Pakistan will launch preemptive nuclear strikes against India".
That aside, what you are suggesting is a full-scale war. Even if they happen to strike first and hit all these targets, the response will be across the length and breadth of India because that is our reflexive posture. We won't think about which targets to hit, those target lists and capabilities are being drilled and catered to NOW. Pakistan's riposte will be QPQ+ to ensure responses are painful and either lead to deterrence re-established by limiting the conflict or a full-fledged war. This is to ensure that the escalation ladder is not controlled by India.
 
Yasser76 said:
Guy knew what he was saying....
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these Indians are so fucked up in their heads they can't make up their minds, on one end they say China produces junk and provided tier 2 junk to Pakistan on the other end they claim they were fighting China which provides 80% of arsenal to Pakistan, and Pakistan is a Chinese test lab.
 
BonPlan said:
I agree, it is why I say not a single one here knowx the truth.
As far as I know a single Rafale hit the ground.
It is more than possible than others birds (Su, Mig even M2000) were grounded, as Pak ones, but so far only 1 Rafale, for unknown reason.
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Only your Agni Pankh Patils were forced to go on a two day leave .
Meanwhile sadly the roasted Rafales took out some of your own civilians who are now seeking compensation.
Whoops someone is getting exposed slowly .

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Kin of Dalit man who died following aircraft crash in Bathinda seek govt compensation

According to Raj Kumar Singh’s wife, he was injured on May 7 when an aircraft crashed in the fields near a Bathinda village. He was taken to AIIMS for treatment, but died days later.
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